[nathanm]

Chuck, the reason you haven't heard from all those people who viewed your pictures is because they are a JOKE.  It's so absurb it's laughable.  Sonics doesn't even enter into it.  One look and people are aghast with the ultimate garishness and clutter of that room.  Like Eric The Red said, this is what the "Deep End" looks like!  It's not the idea, it's the absurdity of the execution that's causing you to catch so much grief here.

And let's say these eye-gouging tweaks are really effective, who exactly do you think is going to follow your lead?  Who here is going to go out to the sporting goods store and stock up on weights so they can pile them on top of their gear?  Who is going to hang weights off their rack?  Your system has so utterly abandoned asthetics nobody can possibly take it seriously.  It doesn't have HAF much less WAF!  That combined with remarks like...

I have humor wit , and intellect which I will use to any wise crackers among you.I will bring you to your knees.

...aren't gonna win you any friends.  Least of all when such pontification isn't even remotely backed up by spelling and punctuation that one would expect from someone with such lofty education.  It doesn't add up to me.

Your system may well sound like a million bucks, but the interior decorating is so meretricious who would wanna sit in that mess?  

Oh, and I'm surprised you don't know what those funny little pictures are, they're internet avatars!  Your room is filled with paintings of them!

Definitely bring back your pictures, though.  Not enough people have witnessed your unique high fidelity/low taste combination and I'm certain if they were reinstated they would continue to bring much merriment  to thousands the world over.

[chuck josephson]

Chuck,

Let's agree that you didn't get off to a smooth start here, but I think you will find that we are after the same things.  That is a true as can be imagined recreation of the recording event.

You have gone about it in a way that seems a bit eccentric to many of us.

Many have acheived similar results by using acoustic foam, difusers, or products like 8th Nerve.  These tend to run a bit more to our cultures norms in terms of looks.

I think we should all give Chuck a warmer welcome.

Anyway ...

Lets cut all the crapola about weights.Any of you with any real guts,go to a sporting goods store and buy 8 ten
pound barbell plates, and strong nylon rope.Hang 20 pounds on each side of the speaker.total 40 pounds on each speaker.The nylon does not scratch the speaker.Next LISTEN.If the sound improves you can all kiss my subwoofer.If it doesnt ,return the weights and
you know where you can put the rope.hang the weights
low on the middle of the speaker.

[Psychicanimal]

I am not hanging weights and chains from my piano black finished subwoofers, Chuck!

I did learn some tricks on vibration control--I had heard of the clay for internal damping but not for connectors and plugs--definitely sounds promising.  I will look into it as I get my sound room ready.

Oh, the girl is not my girlfriend--yet.  Got to stay strong if I'm 40 and she's 24...

[lonewolfny42]

Chuck asked in his thread    "I wish they would send somebody to hear
my system because they would all eat crow.It is perhaps
the best ever heard.Please check out Audio Tweaks .com and try the wire damping and Mortite treatment on all plugs.check tweak#391 for bass traps.
My pictures were viewed by 1000 people in a week.Why
havent I heard from any of them.Eric and Marbles seem
to want me to return".   Once again I'll ask:" any audiophiles in Ft. Lauderdale that would like to hear his system and report  your findings to AudioCircle?"  

[Psychicanimal]

Chuck asked in his thread    "I wish they would send somebody to hear
my system because they would all eat crow.It is perhaps
the best ever heard.Please check out Audio Tweaks .com and try the wire damping and Mortite treatment on all plugs.check tweak#391 for bass traps.
My pictures were viewed by 1000 people in a week.Why
havent I heard from any of them.Eric and Marbles seem
to want me to return".   Once again I'll ask:" any audiophiles in Ft. Lauderdale that would like to hear his system and report  your findings to AudioCircle?"  

From my conversation with Chuckie and after knowing what kind of speakers, wires, ICs, etc that he uses and how his entire setup is designed for vibration control I have absolutely no doubt the system sounds incredible.  I just wonder if there is room for two chairs!

[John Casler]

I am not hanging weights and chains from my piano black finished subwoofers, Chuck!

OK, I have to admit that I have 135# (45# x 3) in Olympic Barbell plates on top of my SUB

Actually I put my sub on a weight lifting program some time ago and posted it to Harmonic Discord.  He has gotten so strong (How stong is he) He is so strong he breaks old records all the time.  (badda boom)

I did learn some tricks on vibration control--I had heard of the clay for internal damping but not for connectors and plugs--definitely sounds promising. I will look into it as I get my sound room ready.

I put "clay" on the metal supporting framework of my Dahlquist DQ10s in 1974 after I found I could feel them vibrating when playing over 80db.  It worked pretty good then.

Oh, the girl is not my girlfriend--yet. Got to stay strong if I'm 40 and she's 24...

Sounds like me. All my girlfriends are in their 30s and I'm 54.  Most of the older ones can't keep up.

Lets cut all the crapola about weights.Any of you with any real guts,go to a sporting goods store and buy 8 ten
pound barbell plates, and strong nylon rope.Hang 20 pounds on each side of the speaker.total 40 pounds on each speaker.The nylon does not scratch the speaker.Next LISTEN.If the sound improves you can all kiss my subwoofer

Aside from the Weights on the sub, a sandbag full of sand or lead shot is actually better and has more cabinet dampening ability.  That way the metal of the plates doesn't affect the magnetic field of the voice coils.

These were marketed years ago.

And I wouldn't want to have relations with your sub Chuck

Who knows she might have mono  

I just wonder if there is room for two chairs!

Why do you think they call it a "double wide"?  

[lonewolfny42]

Why do you think they call it a "double wide"?  

  And the jokes keep coming! John some great lines in that thread !! Two chairs , double wide  >> cracked me up !!

[chuck josephson]

Chuck, the reason you haven't heard from all those people who viewed your pictures is because they are a JOKE.  It's so absurb it's laughable.  Sonics doesn't even enter into it.  One look and people are aghast with the ultimate garishness and clutter of that room.  Like Eric The Red said, this is what the "Deep End" looks like!  It's not the idea, it's the absurdity of the execution that's causing you to catch so much grief here.

And let's say these eye-gouging tweaks are really effective, ...

Whatever has given you the idea that any of this has
disturbed me in the least?I have not had so much fun in
a long time .I cannot stop laughing every time I think
about it.You are the one who is threatened by the truth.
Brother ,you live in darkness.Accept my truth and you
will start to see a glimmer of light.Audio is not for the
weak and faint-hearted.

[Psychicanimal]

Nathan could be your grandson, Chuckie!

Chuckie, there is a magazine titled Audio/Video Interiors--You should get a copy and understand what Nathan is trying to tell you (and myself, too).

I haven't told you, but I use a non-resonant Caribbean hardwood in my audio system.  It's called Moca wood and I think it also grows in Florida.  Works like magic to clear up the sound.  I do have my bag of tricks but I always look for aesthetic solutions...you should see this 24 year old mami...she lifts weights, too!

[nathanm]

Whatever has given you the idea that any of this has disturbed me in the least?

Oh gee, perhaps those childish, defensive replies about Bose speakers, and asking if anyone here had an elementary education, boasting about your own education, etc.  That kinda stuff.  But if this doesn't disturb you, great, I shall continue.

I have not had so much fun in a long time .I cannot stop laughing every time I think about it.

Good, here comes some more fun for you.

You are the one who is threatened by the truth.

And what "truth" would that be, Chuck?  I am threatened by that ghastly looking room of yours!   It is most assuredly a threat to good taste and common sense.  I feel the need to put in eyedrops after looking at it!

Brother ,you live in darkness.Accept my truth and you will start to see a glimmer of light.

 The only glimmer I saw was coming off the tacky junk festooning that double wide palace of yours.  You have absolutely no concept of form and function, something that can be seen in nearly every picture of a hifi listening room I've ever seen no matter how unsightly, except yours.  Yours takes the cake for sheer awfulness.  'Sacrificing looks for "sonic performance"!?' Understatement of the year!  Sheesh!  Those images are actually shockingly funny - and you can hardly say that about any pictures of listening rooms either here or elsewhere!

Audio is not for the weak and faint-hearted.

Oh yeah, sitting on your ass and playing recordings really takes guts!

Hey, I don't argue with what you've done to your system; do whatever you want, but I just have to wonder what the hell you expect to teach us 'O Vishnu's Undersecretary of High Fidelity On Earth, after seeing those grotesquely kitschy pictures, which by themselves tell a thousand words.  And why must we call you up to unlock these arcane secrets of audio magic?  This is a public forum!  Just make a post describing your room and what you've done.  Simple.  Either way, we're gonna have a jolly good laugh at it.

Perhaps you could enlighten us on how well your gear performs at such high and probably humid room temperatures?  Speaking of vibration, doesn't all that tacky decorative junk make lots of nasty vibrations of its own?  I personally have found the opposite, that a clean, tidy room sounds the best.  It goes without saying what your own findings have revealed on that particular matter...

[JohnR]

Hey, I don't argue with what you've done to your system

Oh good. Does that mean you will give it a rest now?

[chuck josephson]

Hey, I don't argue with what you've done to your system

Oh good. Does that mean you will give it a rest now?

I am going to end this episode with some parting remarks and advice.Audio Tweaks owner from Canada
E-mailed me following Good to hear from you again Chuck Awesome stuff!Ive neverseen a room /systemtweaked to that level before Wow!
How long have you been tweaking your room and system?Regards Boris --after viewing the pictures.Psycho-that magazine is only about home theater which is a different animal.I have gone thru your
site and found nothing that interested me.Funny names
nathanM  little yellow balls to me are childish .
Audio Tweaks has real information and doesnt need that
sort of thing.Weights are afraction of what I do .I am
expert in wire dampening which if not done every signal
even AC current is contaminated .Without it it is nonsense to compare components all will be relative.
You are all more concerned with looks over sound .Your
choice.but when you get to a certain level you cant have them both.Im sorry this all has ended on such a
sour tone.I had good intentions when I came on your
site .I never thought or intended that anyone would
copy what  I have done but just show possibilities,and maybe pluck a few tidbits that might be of some value.
Think of this --Music should take us above our surroundings to a higher state of  mind.Most people
dim their lights and shut their eyes when they listen.
The purer your sound ,the less fatigue ,The more relaxed
the more joy you will experience in listening.I hope you
all will get to hear what I hear in your own way,and am
sorry for causing all this negativity.From my  heart I wish
you all well.God Bless You.
  Chuck Josephson

[Psychicanimal]

I am going to end this episode with some parting remarks and advice. I am expert in wire dampening which if not done every signal even AC current is contaminated. Without it it is nonsense to compare components all will be relative.

That is a vital subject that has not been touched at all in this forum and barely in Audiogon (even though a few Audiogoners are Purist Audio freaks).  I am aware that vibration affects the raw electrical signal and blurrs the sound.  Like we talked, I am working on ways to aesthetically deal with this problem.  Your suggestion about the wood board for my speaker cables was most welcome.  Thanks.

You are all more concerned with looks over sound .Your choice.but when you get to a certain level you cant have them both.

I think in this forum most of us agree that we are listening to recordings of music and that it is only an illusion.  No matter how far we go it will still be an illusion, so we must consciously set the limits on effort and budget.  And yes, aesthetics *do* count.  Just look at my avatar!

Im sorry this all has ended on such a
sour tone.I had good intentions when I came on your site .I never thought or intended that anyone would copy what I have done but just show possibilities,and maybe pluck a few tidbits that might be of some value.

You shouldn't pay attention to Nathan--sarcasm is his way of life.  Unlike him, you have a lot to share...

Why don't you start another topic on wire dampening, show some picture of your techniques and let this thread get buried in the archives?

[nathanm]

 Hey guys, I wish you the best of luck in your future discussions about glopping putty onto AC receptacles and cords.  It will be a hoot I'm sure.

Chuck, out of all that all you can find to comment on are the site's smiley GIFs?  Erm, okay.  So much for "bringing (me} to my knees". Have a nice day.

[satfrat]

I am going to end this episode with some parting remarks and advice.

                           Hi Chuck, please take all the contents of this thread with a grain of salt and don`t leave bitter. You won`t find a greater group of helpful, knowledgeable guys anywhere, this whole thread just sort of snowballed. (w/a little help from you & me too I`m afraid) I came here in March hoping to learn and make some friends and I`ve done that. You are the first to ridicule my speakers but you must understand that my speakers are 10-18 years old, before the days of the "cube". And I know that if I had any exposer to any high end systems, I would be motivated to move upward. Being in the woods of Vermont, this just isn`t possible. BTW, what do you have for speakers? Just curious, that`s all. Regards, Robin

[chuck josephson]

You shouldn't pay attention to Nathan--sarcasm is his way of life.  Unlike him, you have a lot to share...

Why don't you start another topic on wire dampening, show some picture of your techniques and let this thread get buried in the archives?

Im glad you are interested in some of my tweaks.Wire
damping is the most important of all.Did you check the
bass traps on audio tweaks.they work and you can make them pretty and save a lot of money.I would  like
to hear from you .Thank you for your compliment  but
I am finished on this site.As a matter of fact  I think the
whole 12 pages should be deleted.Without those pictures new people wouldnt understand.and it all looks
bad to read.Because of the funny names little pictures
yellow circles I figured it was mostly a joke and went along with it .Meeting you made it worthwhile to me.
I was attacked from the beginning .Being a teacher I
can give it back in spades .I had the best controlled 6
grade classes in Newark NJ  for 20 years ,the toughest
ghetto area in the country.nothing fazes me.I still cant
understand why you cant give your real names.It reminds  me of the KKK wearing masks.I would be happy to share any more information with you by phone
and if it works you can pass it along to your friends.My
E-mail address is chuck978@bellsouth.net.
Your Friend
Chuck Josephson

[chuck josephson]

You shouldn't pay attention to Nathan--sarcasm is his way of life.  Unlike him, you have a lot to share...

Why don't you start another topic on wire dampening, show some picture of your techniques and let this thread get buried in the archives?

Another  thing
I thought of -check all screws holding speakers for not
being tight .Sometime vibration loosens them up and sometimes they start out loose.Even then there con be
air leaks thats why I put the clay.NHT leaked badly.Check the back panel where the binding posts are
tighten the screws holding the panel them if loose they always are.If you use grills,take them off .They are deadly.Listen you will never put them back.
put them back.  let me know CHUCK

[chuck josephson]

 Hey guys, I wish you the best of luck in your future discussions about glopping putty onto AC receptacles and cords.  It will be a hoot I'm sure.

Chuck, out of all that all you can find to comment on are the site's smiley GIFs?  Erm, okay.  So much for "bringing (me} to my knees". Have a nice day.

Nathan,I just took a good look at your picture
can no longer hold you responsible for your behavior.

[Rob Babcock]

I guess Mr. Josephson doesn't mind long goodbyes.  





















                         

[chuck josephson]

 Hey guys, I wish you the best of luck in your future discussions about glopping putty onto AC receptacles and cords.  It will be a hoot I'm sure.

Chuck, out of all that all you can find to comment on are the site's smiley GIFs?  Erm, okay.  So much for "bringing (me} to my knees". Have a nice day.

Nathan ,next time you get your picture taken,
you ought to get a haircut.If you cant afford one at least
comb your hair.How much do you charge to haunt a house?Chuck alias THE GENIUS