upgrade/update BDP for larger hdd sizes?

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BrysTony

Re: upgrade/update BDP for larger hdd sizes?
« Reply #60 on: 27 Nov 2011, 06:35 pm »
James,
there seem to be different versions of those passports. Do you have a link?
I find these: http://www.centralpoint.nl/harde-schijven/western-digital/my-passport-essential-se-1tb-art-wdbacx0010bsl-eesn-num-452814/
the one?

Marius

Marius,
The drives in your link are all the same.  The only difference is color -- the numbers are the same except for SL for silver, BK for black, BL for blue and RD for red.  The different prices don't make sense but it is there is a difference in the US also.  I have one of these and it works great.

Tony

Marius

Re: upgrade/update BDP for larger hdd sizes?
« Reply #61 on: 27 Nov 2011, 07:12 pm »
Thanks Tony,

Found the one in the AppleStore, http://store.apple.com/nl/product/H0767VC/A?fnode=MTY1NDA0Nw&s=topSellers#compatibility much cheaper too....How's that for a surprise :icon_lol: (3 to 4 months......?)

Not sure whether it's Mac formatted or Fat32 though.  :scratch:

Mentioned is an option for extra power-feed if the ports are not strong enough, so that should be on the safe side.

Have you tried them on both back USB slots the simultaneously ?

Marius

Marius,
The drives in your link are all the same.  The only difference is color -- the numbers are the same except for SL for silver, BK for black, BL for blue and RD for red.  The different prices don't make sense but it is there is a difference in the US also.  I have one of these and it works great.

Tony

BrysTony

Re: upgrade/update BDP for larger hdd sizes?
« Reply #62 on: 27 Nov 2011, 07:28 pm »
Thanks Tony,

Found the one in the AppleStore, http://store.apple.com/nl/product/H0767VC/A?fnode=MTY1NDA0Nw&s=topSellers#compatibility much cheaper too....How's that for a surprise :icon_lol: (3 to 4 months......?)

Not sure whether it's Mac formatted or Fat32 though.  :scratch:

Mentioned is an option for extra power-feed if the ports are not strong enough, so that should be on the safe side.

Have you tried them on both back USB slots the simultaneously ?

Marius

Marius,

The one from the Apple store is slightly different in that it is the earlier version which is only USB 2.0 and the ones from your first link are compatible with both USB 3.0 and 2.0.  That is why it is cheaper; however, it should work fine.  It will be Mac formatted but you can easily reformat to FAT32.  I don't know if there is a difference in power requirements.

I only have one of them so I don't know about using two of them together.  I use it with an OCZ Enyo SSD with no problem.

Tony

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Re: upgrade/update BDP for larger hdd sizes?
« Reply #63 on: 27 Nov 2011, 07:28 pm »
James,
there seem to be different versions of those passports. Do you have a link?
I find these: http://www.centralpoint.nl/harde-schijven/western-digital/my-passport-essential-se-1tb-art-wdbacx0010bsl-eesn-num-452814/
the one?

Am I right that those are bus-powered drives? If so, can the BDP drive 2 of those on the back USB ports without power-trouble? And still read thumb drives on the front?

Thanks!

Marius

Hi Marius,

i have not tried 2 on the back - just have one on the bottom for my main files and a Seagate 500GB on top with 2- 64GB thumb-drives in front which I alternate.

james

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Re: upgrade/update BDP for larger hdd sizes?
« Reply #64 on: 27 Nov 2011, 07:29 pm »
Thanks Tony,

Found the one in the AppleStore, http://store.apple.com/nl/product/H0767VC/A?fnode=MTY1NDA0Nw&s=topSellers#compatibility much cheaper too....How's that for a surprise :icon_lol: (3 to 4 months......?)

Not sure whether it's Mac formatted or Fat32 though.  :scratch:

Mentioned is an option for extra power-feed if the ports are not strong enough, so that should be on the safe side.

Have you tried them on both back USB slots the simultaneously ?

Marius

If you buy at the Apple store I would assume it is formatted for apple.

james

gil99

Re: upgrade/update BDP for larger hdd sizes?
« Reply #65 on: 27 Nov 2011, 11:57 pm »
I just bought one WD 500gb passport essential, should I format it to fat32, on the package it said it formatted NTFS. Thanks

Gil

Marius

Re: upgrade/update BDP for larger hdd sizes?
« Reply #66 on: 28 Nov 2011, 02:14 pm »
Ok Thanks James,

Returned my Lacie and asked about power consumption of it. The salesperson doubted the power-specifications of the BDP1. James, could there be any reason to suspect that? If so, how to measure it. I do have been experiencing power-related problems from the beginning. Both with Lacie drives btw....but the former drive was a 500gig and even then the bdp1 has trouble playing with that and the front-sub's loaded.

Well, just to be sure I ordered a WD passport, which seems rather difficult to get out here in the stores. Hate to buy online with HDD. (hope transport won't do any harm)

James, do you have recommendations for powered drives. I have more than enough music to fill this 1 tb drive to be, and would preferably need 2 2tb drives to be attached permanently. Deadsilent being the main specification, but reliable and speedy come in close.


Marius
 
Hi Marius,

i have not tried 2 on the back - just have one on the bottom for my main files and a Seagate 500GB on top with 2- 64GB thumb-drives in front which I alternate.

james

terrycym

Re: upgrade/update BDP for larger hdd sizes?
« Reply #67 on: 28 Nov 2011, 02:21 pm »
Maybe that's where the proposed Bryston drive enclosure will come in useful?
Any updates on that?

I'd imagine 2 1/2" drives with the slowest spin speed would be the best

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Re: upgrade/update BDP for larger hdd sizes?
« Reply #68 on: 28 Nov 2011, 04:03 pm »
Ok Thanks James,

Returned my Lacie and asked about power consumption of it. The salesperson doubted the power-specifications of the BDP1. James, could there be any reason to suspect that? If so, how to measure it. I do have been experiencing power-related problems from the beginning. Both with Lacie drives btw....but the former drive was a 500gig and even then the bdp1 has trouble playing with that and the front-sub's loaded.

Well, just to be sure I ordered a WD passport, which seems rather difficult to get out here in the stores. Hate to buy online with HDD. (hope transport won't do any harm)

James, do you have recommendations for powered drives. I have more than enough music to fill this 1 tb drive to be, and would preferably need 2 2tb drives to be attached permanently. Deadsilent being the main specification, but reliable and speedy come in close.


Marius

Hi Marius,

Here is the link to the USB power supply that is used on the BDP-1 mother board.

http://www.national.com/ds/LM/LM3526.pdf

james


Marius

Re: upgrade/update BDP for larger hdd sizes?
« Reply #69 on: 28 Nov 2011, 04:16 pm »
Hi James,

Although I find it very interesting, I doubt that the sales-guy will... I will rely on your recommendation of proven technology. So if you could hand me a suggestion to powered hdd's that you are happy to work with, I'd be grateful.

Will deliver this to the store and show them we mean business!
Greets,
Marius

Hi Marius,

Here is the link to the USB power supply that is used on the BDP-1 mother board.

http://www.national.com/ds/LM/LM3526.pdf

james

terrycym

Re: upgrade/update BDP for larger hdd sizes?
« Reply #70 on: 28 Nov 2011, 04:29 pm »
Hi Marius,
Here is the link to the USB power supply that is used on the BDP-1 mother board.
http://www.national.com/ds/LM/LM3526.pdf
james
According to the data sheet, it has two outputs each capable of 0.5A
I thought only the lower rear USB socket can supply 0.5A on the BDP-1?

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Re: upgrade/update BDP for larger hdd sizes?
« Reply #71 on: 28 Nov 2011, 04:49 pm »
According to the data sheet, it has two outputs each capable of 0.5A
I thought only the lower rear USB socket can supply 0.5A on the BDP-1?

Hi Terry,

Correct the rear USB is .5a and the top rear and the 2 fronts have a maximum of a shared .5amps.

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Re: upgrade/update BDP for larger hdd sizes?
« Reply #72 on: 28 Nov 2011, 04:50 pm »
Hi James,

Although I find it very interesting, I doubt that the sales-guy will... I will rely on your recommendation of proven technology. So if you could hand me a suggestion to powered hdd's that you are happy to work with, I'd be grateful.

Will deliver this to the store and show them we mean business!
Greets,
Marius

Hi Marius,

All the powered drives I have tried work well - Seagate, Lacie, etc.

james


Marius

Re: upgrade/update BDP for larger hdd sizes?
« Reply #73 on: 28 Nov 2011, 05:00 pm »
no preferences for sound and/or size? (DeadQuiet?)

Hi Marius,

All the powered drives I have tried work well - Seagate, Lacie, etc.

james

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Re: upgrade/update BDP for larger hdd sizes?
« Reply #74 on: 28 Nov 2011, 05:10 pm »
no preferences for sound and/or size? (DeadQuiet?)

Good question - they all make some level of noise but I usually just put the drive in an enclosed cabinet below the BDP-1.

james

Marius

Re: upgrade/update BDP for larger hdd sizes?
« Reply #75 on: 28 Nov 2011, 05:26 pm »
hmmmm, I don't have an enclosed cabinet, rather an exposed  :scratch: :scratch:

regarding an earlier question James, your BDE is meant for the top rear usb socket (since it is powered)? so we can have a bus powered HDD on the bottom rear socket?

Marius

Good question - they all make some level of noise but I usually just put the drive in an enclosed cabinet below the BDP-1.

james

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Re: upgrade/update BDP for larger hdd sizes?
« Reply #76 on: 28 Nov 2011, 05:36 pm »
hmmmm, I don't have an enclosed cabinet, rather an exposed  :scratch: :scratch:

regarding an earlier question James, your BDE is meant for the top rear usb socket (since it is powered)? so we can have a bus powered HDD on the bottom rear socket?

Marius

Not sure I understand the question but the rear USB port is capable of its own .5amps independent of the top USB rear port and the two front USB ports which all 3 together offer another maximum .5amps.

james

Marius

Re: upgrade/update BDP for larger hdd sizes?
« Reply #77 on: 28 Nov 2011, 05:42 pm »
yes, and because of that I thought it to be convenient to let the self powered BDE be input on the top rear port, thus preserving the bottom rear port for non-powered drives?

Not sure I understand the question but the rear USB port is capable of its own .5amps independent of the top USB rear port and the two front USB ports which all 3 together offer another maximum .5amps.

james

terrycym

Re: upgrade/update BDP for larger hdd sizes?
« Reply #78 on: 28 Nov 2011, 05:53 pm »
Hi Marius,
All the powered drives I have tried work well - Seagate, Lacie, etc.
james
I have a WD My Book Studio 2TByte and it's nice and quiet. I also have a Lacie 2big dual 1.5 TByte and it's really noisy!

terrycym

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« Reply #79 on: 28 Nov 2011, 05:55 pm »
yes, and because of that I thought it to be convenient to let the self powered BDE be input on the top rear port, thus preserving the bottom rear port for non-powered drives?

Sounds like a good plan Marius.