NAGYS AUDIO Cable Tour Impressions!!!!

JakeJ · « **Reply #100 on:** 26 Jun 2010, 05:12 pm »

Ah, hindsight, bites me on or about the posterior occasionally too.

rollo · « **Reply #101 on:** 28 Jun 2010, 02:09 pm »

Received cables Saturday. First up Digital cable. Using a Lector CDP7TL as a transport and a modified Promitheus DAC the Staightwire silver plated copper was embarassed. PRAT, clarity, imaging, tone. Very good cable. The connectors snap in with a tight connection. Very impressive.
Next up was a pair of RCA ICs from DAC to Preamp. The competition a pair of Harmonix Golden Ratios[ $2700]. The Nagy is neutral and alive. The harmonix a tad colored rich. A synergy I believe was forming as I added more Nagy cable.
For now no more changes until I get a handle on the first two. These cables so far are THE REAL DEAL. No BS. No fatiuge so far. The Pipedreams will reveal any fault up front. Especially the topend which for me is critical. I cannot live with exaggerated sibilance, brightness or anything thin in sound. I need decay, harmonic overtone and air baby air. So far all is there. Maybe a tad thin. Maybe as they have not settled in yet. I find it takes 3 days or so. Tonight the powercords will be inserted into the DAC and transport. They will replace NOS WE cords which are IMO very very good.
BTW my reference amps[ Cyber 211s] are down so I'm using an AR Classic 60 fed by a Loesch and Weisner tubed preamp. Its not the SET sound but it will keep you in your seat a while.
I'm saving the speaker cables for last as IMO they offer the biggest degree of change in ones system. Keep ya'all posted.
So far Nagy is NOT full of it, he has a VG poduct so far. I'm impressed. BTW I have yet to read any comments posted as to not sway my opinion.

charles

JakeJ · « **Reply #102 on:** 28 Jun 2010, 04:51 pm »

Thanks, rollo, for the update and initial impressions. It is interesting that the Nagy "embarrassed" your Straightwire as I looked at their website and it appears what you are using is their Level 4 Reference Grade.

Looking forward to your further impressions. This curious mind is very interested in how the Nagys fare against the Harmonix Golden Ratio

Thanks again,
Jake

rollo · « **Reply #103 on:** 28 Jun 2010, 05:03 pm »

I forgot to mention my other reference cables . JPS SC3 between Pre and Amp. Speaker cables vary with amps used. With the Audio Research amps, Classic 60 and DR250 servo Mk[ 2], Morey James Sprk 1 [ Cryoed copper] and my favorites Omega Mikro active with the Cyber 211 SET.
Inserted the IC between the Pre and amp. Not as smooth as the JPs however I found the same when inserting the first IC. Needs a bit to settle, which it did very nicely.
I will comment on the direct comparison of my ref. to the nagys when all have been inserted. Then I will remove one at a time with my reference to compare.
I cannot believe the Digital cable cost $80. BUT ONE.

charles

werd · « **Reply #104 on:** 28 Jun 2010, 05:13 pm »

Relief...... I am glad you finally got them. I was beginning to wander if i had ripped them off myself.....

Sorry about the delay everyone...

rollo · « **Reply #105 on:** 6 Jul 2010, 05:25 pm »

Ok all in. Now the sound has changed as hours are put on. These cables DO have a break-in period. I have marked the direction to keep the demo proper. Masking tape and an arrow.
These are neutral cables. They just get out of the way. more information dead quite background and excellent PRAT to boot. If you are looking for a cable that does no harm .This could be it. The only cable that brightened it up a bit was the powercords. IMO the weak link in the Nagy line.
A direct comparison between the JPS and Nagy showed a coloration with the JPS. A good coloration. Smoother at the top and a larger soundstage. It should for 10x the price. Vocal sibilants were easier to live with with Holly Cole and Jacintha. With the very well recored CDs the Nagys are tough to beat.
In a nutshell a complete Nagy cabling presented a neutral uncolored presentation for a very reasonable price. These are NOT tone controls. If your system is up to being revealed a must try. If that is your bag, jump in hook line and sinker. If not color away. Tonight I will insert my cables one at a time starting with the speaker cable. Let ya know.
BTW How long are we to keep the cables before sending on ?

charles

JakeJ · « **Reply #106 on:** 6 Jul 2010, 11:02 pm »

The OP says no time limit but be thoughtful that there is someone else waiting too. So have fun, rollo, and keep us posted as to your findings. I'm in no hurry.

etcarroll · « **Reply #107 on:** 6 Jul 2010, 11:09 pm »

PRAT?

Quote from: rollo on 6 Jul 2010, 05:25 pm

These are neutral cables. They just get out of the way. more information dead quite background and excellent PRAT to boot. If you are looking for a cable that does no harm .This could be it. The only cable that brightened it up a bit was the powercords. IMO the weak link in the Nagy line.

charles

alwayslearning · « **Reply #108 on:** 6 Jul 2010, 11:17 pm »

etcarroll
PRAT= Pace, Rhythm And Timing.

etcarroll · « **Reply #109 on:** 6 Jul 2010, 11:22 pm »

Quote from: alwayslearning on 6 Jul 2010, 11:17 pm

etcarroll
PRAT= Pace, Rhythm And Timing.

Wind Chaser · « **Reply #110 on:** 6 Jul 2010, 11:30 pm »

So Norbert was right all along and the naysayers are just emotional wieners.

rollo · « **Reply #111 on:** 8 Jul 2010, 02:22 pm »

Inserted the Harmonix Golden ratio IC back from DAC to Preamp. The Harmonix presented a richer full bodied sound. The inner detail and clarity was a tad less and transient response a bit slowed but the foot was a tapping and the singing took over. The Nagy IC appears to is for the brain and the Harmonix for the soul. A simple tube change brought the Nagys closer without losing its attributes.
It is time to clarify a few matters before continuing. Our system has been tweaked with tubes and cables to arrive at our reference sound. The insertion of the Nagys proved how the tweaks colored the system to our liking. I could live with an entire Nagy system [ except powercords] and change tubes accordingly.
For us getting the source to the preamp uncolored is desireable. The Nagy Digital cable and the IC do just that. The Lector CDP is a Class "A" player. No need to color a thing. Actually the Lector benifited from the Nagy Digital cable [ replaced a silver Straightwire model]. Getting more information with blacker backgrounds.
We like a rich weighty sound. So tonight back to all Nagy with Mullards in the Pre and Sletvana 6550s in lieu of the Sovtek 6550. My bet is the tube change will add just enough color to enhance the Nagys see through quality.

Let ya know.

charles

Gopher · « **Reply #112 on:** 8 Jul 2010, 02:45 pm »

That is a very good point you articulate, rollo and what I was getting at in my feedback.

The Naggys do a lot of things right, but ultimately synergy is there or it isn't. For better or worse it changed the ultimate voicing of my system from what I was moving towards. But one could always juggle the associated equipment to make it work.

Now that I have new speakers in place and am likely moving towards tube amplification I am tempted to give Norberts digital cable another whirl, but present budget is so tight (yet repeatedly ignored) it isn't funny.

NagysAudio · « **Reply #113 on:** 9 Jul 2010, 06:26 am »

rollo - Thanks for the write up. I'm glad you are enjoying the cables. Also, I just wanted to let you know that I sent a 1.5m digital cable to Roy for review.

A few of you have mentioned that my power cables have slightly brightened your systems. I'm interested to know if your previous power cables were any of the following: networked with either a series, or parallel inductor, or twisted/braided in any fancy way?

Thanks!

werd · « **Reply #114 on:** 9 Jul 2010, 06:19 pm »

Hi Nagy

Your power cables are nice. I didnt mention but they worked good with my Max bella pre. It changed the tone out on my pre for the better, it was good. I don't find you power cables at all bright. I would even go as far as recommending them to someone who are trying to relax their high freq. They offer a real smooth tone, they just messed with my timing on my dac at late nite listening level. But that is just a synergy/my taste issue and not really a performance glitch. They worked nice with the dac at a higher volume and seemed to change out its performance.

rollo · « **Reply #115 on:** 13 Jul 2010, 02:55 pm »

Quote from: NagysAudio on 9 Jul 2010, 06:26 am

rollo - Thanks for the write up. I'm glad you are enjoying the cables. Also, I just wanted to let you know that I sent a 1.5m digital cable to Roy for review.

A few of you have mentioned that my power cables have slightly brightened your systems. I'm interested to know if your previous power cables were any of the following: networked with either a series, or parallel inductor, or twisted/braided in any fancy way?

Thanks!

Your welcome. Roy will provide a fair and balanced review. Now the brightness issue. Now that the cables have some hours on them they have mellowed a bit. Even though Norbert says no break-in is required [ Engineeritus] it does. These cables will reveal all. At first I felt the same way a bit bright with ALL cables inserted.
The AR Classic 60 with Sovtek tubes is a bit bright, so the Nagys exposed it to a degree of concern. I counteracted the brightness with a tube change in the Preamp. So far so good.

charles

NagysAudio · « **Reply #116 on:** 20 Jul 2010, 10:25 pm »

Hi Charles,

Just wondering how the cables are performing now that you've had some more hours on them? Also, would it be possible to get them out to the next person on the list by the beginning of next week? Thanks!

NagysAudio · « **Reply #117 on:** 26 Jul 2010, 02:41 pm »

Anyone know where the cables are? This tour has come to a dead stop. Thanks!

JakeJ · « **Reply #118 on:** 26 Jul 2010, 06:15 pm »

Hi Norbert,
I have not heard anything either so let's wait and see what rollo says.
Jake

NagysAudio · « **Reply #119 on:** 3 Aug 2010, 04:03 pm »

rollo - You now have had the cables for more than a month. Please send them to the next person ASAP if you have not done so. Thanks!