Toyota Recall

rollo · « **Reply #340 on:** 19 Mar 2010, 06:49 pm »

Quote from: PhilNYC on 19 Mar 2010, 02:50 pm

On the other hand, if I buy a "hot coffee", I wouldn't ever think about putting it between my legs while driving...because my expectation is that it would be hot.

EDIT: And on another note...whether it's a hot or cold drink, generally I wouldn't put a paper or plastic cup between my legs while driving simply for fear of squeezing the cup and having the lid pop off and spilling...but that's just me...

It is because you have common sense something lacking with many people.

charles

pjchappy · « **Reply #341 on:** 21 Mar 2010, 02:05 am »

OK. . .topic is unlocked. I (maybe regretfully) didn't remove any posts.

Let's just try to get back on topic. . .and be civil.

Paul

Stu Pitt · « **Reply #342 on:** 21 Mar 2010, 02:23 am »

Sorry I started the Mickey D's thing.

pjchappy · « **Reply #343 on:** 21 Mar 2010, 02:26 am »

Not too concerned about that. Just wasn't liking the overall tone of things and felt a bit of a cool-off period was necessary.

Paul

doug s. · « **Reply #344 on:** 21 Mar 2010, 06:45 pm »

Quote from: macrojack on 19 Mar 2010, 02:46 pm

...And, Doug, I'm afraid I have to say that you are dead wrong because 140 degrees still would have burned her.

uh, no, macrojack, in this case you are wrong - i have first hand experience.

sure, i was in pain for an hour or so. no burns that required even a little medical attention, let alone third degree burns, nerve damage, etc...

doug s.

doug s. · « **Reply #345 on:** 21 Mar 2010, 06:47 pm »

Quote from: pjchappy on 21 Mar 2010, 02:26 am

Not too concerned about that. Just wasn't liking the overall tone of things and felt a bit of a cool-off period was necessary.

Paul

the coffee needs a cool-off period?

doug s.,
happy gen-1 scion xb owner...

macrojack · « **Reply #346 on:** 21 Mar 2010, 06:50 pm »

O.K. Doug, You're right!

Please P.M. me about another matter. I have sent you messages with no response so I'm thinking there might be a block somewhere.

doug s. · « **Reply #347 on:** 21 Mar 2010, 06:52 pm »

macro, your pm's don't get thru, and i have recent pm's from others, so it ain't me. i will try pm'ing you.

best,

doug s.

jackman · « **Reply #348 on:** 23 Mar 2010, 06:43 pm »

More evidence Toyota knew about this problem (the one many have denied exists) in 2002? Is this memo the "Smoking Gun"?

Drive safely, my friends...

http://autos.aol.com/article/toyota-throttle-warning-2002/

twitch54 · « **Reply #349 on:** 23 Mar 2010, 07:16 pm »

Quote from: jackman on 19 Mar 2010, 02:08 pm

Expressing an opinion about a person who tries to cash in buy burning herself with HOT COFFEE (that's why they call it HOT) should be banned?

Agreed, oh and BTW....according to Consumer Reports (and I concur) the correct temp to brew coffee (extract max flavor from the beans)........150 degrees, so I suspect she got a 'fesh brew' !!

twitch54 · « **Reply #350 on:** 23 Mar 2010, 07:17 pm »

Quote from: jackman on 23 Mar 2010, 06:43 pm

More evidence Toyota knew about this problem (the one many have denied exists) in 2002? Is this memo the "Smoking Gun"?

Drive safely, my friends...

http://autos.aol.com/article/toyota-throttle-warning-2002/

Man it gets more interesting by the day !

macrojack · « **Reply #351 on:** 23 Mar 2010, 07:20 pm »

What stereo equipment does Consumer Reports recommend? Do you believe them on that topic? Why believe them on anything?

I do trust what they say about cars because of their survey and testing methods. In other areas I have never felt confident in their choices.

PhilNYC · « **Reply #352 on:** 23 Mar 2010, 07:37 pm »

Quote from: twitch54 on 23 Mar 2010, 07:16 pm

Agreed, oh and BTW....according to Consumer Reports (and I concur) the correct temp to brew coffee (extract max flavor from the beans)........150 degrees, so I suspect she got a 'fesh brew' !!

According to the National Coffee Association, coffee should be brewed with water between 195-205 degrees...and that if not served immediately, should be kept at approximately 185 degrees.

http://www.ncausa.org/i4a/pages/index.cfm?pageid=71

I've generally found that I enjoy coffee at these temperatures...or cold...and that anything less is definitely less enjoyable...

srb · « **Reply #353 on:** 23 Mar 2010, 07:39 pm »

Quote from: twitch54 on 23 Mar 2010, 07:16 pm

Agreed, oh and BTW....according to Consumer Reports (and I concur) the correct temp to brew coffee (extract max flavor from the beans)........150 degrees, so I suspect she got a 'fesh brew' !!

Almost all brewers, coffee supply vendors as well as coffeeresearch.org also universally agree on 195 - 205 degrees F as the ideal brewing temperature. However, that is too high for a drinking temperature.

Unless the coffee is stored in a heated container, it will usually have cooled somewhat when served. I think the tendency for many restaurants and fast food establishments is to serve coffee extra hot so that it won't be too cold after 5 or 10 minutes.

My point here is that if Consumer Reports says 150 degrees F is the ideal brewing temperature, then perhaps considering them an authority on anything should be taken with a grain of salt.

Steve

Bob in St. Louis · « **Reply #354 on:** 23 Mar 2010, 07:40 pm »

I like bunnies.

PhilNYC · « **Reply #355 on:** 23 Mar 2010, 07:45 pm »

Quote from: Bob in St. Louis on 23 Mar 2010, 07:40 pm

I like bunnies.

At what temperature?

srb · « **Reply #356 on:** 23 Mar 2010, 07:51 pm »

Quote from: PhilNYC on 23 Mar 2010, 07:45 pm

At what temperature?

The USDA recommended rabbit cooking temperature:

"For safety, USDA recommends cooking rabbit to an internal temperature of at least 160° F. The use of a food thermometer is recommended to make sure that your rabbit is safe to eat."

For brewing rabbit beverages - 195° - 205° F - same as coffee.

Steve

twitch54 · « **Reply #357 on:** 23 Mar 2010, 08:24 pm »

Quote from: srb on 23 Mar 2010, 07:39 pm

My point here is that if Consumer Reports says 150 degrees F is the ideal brewing temperature, then perhaps considering them an authority on anything should be taken with a grain of salt.

Steve

Gents, you may have a very valid point....I need to go back and re-read that article, for I probably got the brewing and serving temps mixed up !

doug s. · « **Reply #358 on:** 23 Mar 2010, 08:32 pm »

if you are interested in cars as appliances, cu is great. if you actually enjoy driving, the way some folks here enjoy listening to tunes, cu is pretty worthless.

i also like bunnies. taste like chicken...

doug s.

jackman · « **Reply #359 on:** 23 Mar 2010, 10:21 pm »

Forget about Consumer Reports, National Coffee Association, coffeeresearch.org or any expert organization's advice on the proper temperature to brew and serve coffee! I only trust the UNBIASED opinion of the plaintiff's attorney from the McD's coffee case. That's the only truely unbiased opinion, IMO. He's the lawyer for the person who sued for millions of dollars. Why would he want to be anything but honest?

Also, I like my rabbit medium well, served with some nice hot coffee at 190F!