Amarra Music Player

mercman · « **Reply #160 on:** 6 Aug 2009, 09:42 pm »

I can't seem to download any other build than 3162 or older. Not a big deal.

jtwrace · « **Reply #161 on:** 7 Aug 2009, 12:12 am »

Quote from: Crimson on 6 Aug 2009, 12:42 am

If you check the file in the Amarra folder, it should be the updated version. When installing a new build, your desktop icon will not get updated and will be a previous build (the last time you dragged or copied it from the Amarra folder to your desktop).

Thanks for the help. I see what I was doing wrong. I was clicking on "Desktop" > Amarra. Which is the icon. right? When I go to applications > Amarra > Get Info it then shows what you have. Thanks!

Crimson · « **Reply #162 on:** 7 Aug 2009, 09:29 am »

Quote from: jtwrace on 7 Aug 2009, 12:12 am

Quote from: Crimson on 6 Aug 2009, 12:42 am
If you check the file in the Amarra folder, it should be the updated version. When installing a new build, your desktop icon will not get updated and will be a previous build (the last time you dragged or copied it from the Amarra folder to your desktop).

Thanks for the help. I see what I was doing wrong. I was clicking on "Desktop" > Amarra. Which is the icon. right? When I go to applications > Amarra > Get Info it then shows what you have. Thanks!

No problem. Remember, though, that unless you copy or drag the Amarra.app file from your Amarra folder with the newer build to your desktop, you'll still be using an older build.

jtwrace · « **Reply #163 on:** 7 Aug 2009, 11:36 am »

No problem. Remember, though, that unless you copy or drag the Amarra.app file from your Amarra folder with the newer build to your desktop, you'll still be using an older build.
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Ahh. I wouldn't of done that. Thank you again!!!! Your like the online Amarra tech help. It's great!

Crimson · « **Reply #164 on:** 7 Aug 2009, 12:22 pm »

You're welcome again! It's not an Amarra issue, just the way OS X works. The icon on your desktop is not an alias, or shortcut, but the actual application (.app) file that you dragged or copied over to your desktop at some point. When you install Amarra, new files are written to your Amarra folder only. Adding an alias (shortcut) to your desktop of the Amarra file (from the Amarra folder) instead of dragging or copying will ensure that the desktop icon always opens the latest build.

You can tell if an icon is an alias or not by the little arrow in the bottom left corner of the icon:

dave clark · « **Reply #165 on:** 7 Aug 2009, 02:52 pm »

I was told that when one installs a later version of Amarra it overwrites the older one in the folder. Meaning that the icon will always launch whatever version you have now. I keep my desktop clean and only place (drag) the software icons to the Dock - which I assume are shortcuts? New to Apple here...

mercman · « **Reply #166 on:** 7 Aug 2009, 03:42 pm »

This is correct Dave. When you start a program, it appears in the dock. Right click the icon to keep it in the dock. The dock acts like shortcuts in Windows.

Ciamara · « **Reply #167 on:** 16 Aug 2009, 11:38 pm »

Quote from: alan m. kafton on 27 May 2009, 07:57 pm

For those who aren't aware, Vincent Sanders of VRS Audio Solutions was the fellow who worked with Sonic Studio to bring Amarra to fruition, and is their authorized dealer/representative. While Amarra has some plug-and-play virtues, most will have many questions regarding operation and playback. For anyone who has interest in Amarra, I highly suggest contacting Vincent to get the best information about how Amarra will work in your system. As I understand, the $500 discount is available through the end of May, and will be honored through Vincent as well.

Vincent's number is 702-263-8094 and his e-mail is "vincent@vrsaudiosystems.com"

For those of you in the Northeast Region, we are the authorized dealer for New York. We have a highly resolving system on which to hear Amarra up close and personal before making any decisions. And we can help you with installation, system design and troubleshooting. Thank you.

ted_b · « **Reply #168 on:** 21 Aug 2009, 02:54 pm »

Has anyone played around with the EQ function on Amarra?

I borrowed George (Zybar)'s XTZ room analyzer and started futzing with it yesterday. It found a couple modes and recommended some simple EQ settings (for example 31 hz, -5db, Q=8.9). I thought, hey what the heck I'll try the parametric EQ function in Amarra. Well, it cleaned up the bass a bit but gave the sound an overall slight brittleness or digititis, especially in the lower treble range, that I wasn't excited about. Now, I have to say I'm also breaking in some cabling, so some of it could come from there.

Simply wanted to ask if anyone had played with the EQ and found anything positive or negative to report.

Ciamara · « **Reply #169 on:** 21 Aug 2009, 05:19 pm »

I have tried the EQ, and it is very good. Remember, EQ is a double-edged sword. If there are very obvious problems with a room, EQ can help. But EQ, by virtue of the fact that it is processing the sound, will degrade it to some extent. In the digital realm, what you will hear is rounding error. EQ in the digital world is a mathematical calculation, and the more calculations you do, the more rounding error you create.

But back to your question, I think the EQ is very good in Amarra. I don't use it, because my Ciamara system sounds so natural and warm without it. But I have played around with it for fun. I did not find it brittle at all. I found it to be quite good. I would like to see a graphical display of the EQ curve in future releases, as it can be very hard to understand what you are doing to the sound, even if you understand how parametric EQ works.

jtwrace · « **Reply #170 on:** 23 Aug 2009, 01:48 am »

I had an interesting thing happen today. I was just showing someone my setting in my DAC setup (Wavelength Cosecant V3) and noticed that the setting was 44.1 When I switched it to 88.2 (Amarra on) the speed was increased. When I turned Amarra off, the speed was normal. Anyone have this happen? What should I do?

Ciamara · « **Reply #171 on:** 23 Aug 2009, 02:05 am »

This is normal behavior. If you manually change the sample rate, the music will play back faster/slower. As a rule, don't play with the sample rate. Let Amarra adjust your computer/music server automatically, and let the DAC respond. Your DAC should be able to determine the incoming sample rate and adjust automatically. I am not familiar with the Wavelength gear, so can't comment much beyond that. Let us know how this works out for you.

jtwrace · « **Reply #172 on:** 23 Aug 2009, 04:25 pm »

Quote from: sunjitwhy on 23 Aug 2009, 02:05 am

This is normal behavior. If you manually change the sample rate, the music will play back faster/slower. As a rule, don't play with the sample rate. Let Amarra adjust your computer/music server automatically, and let the DAC respond. Your DAC should be able to determine the incoming sample rate and adjust automatically. I am not familiar with the Wavelength gear, so can't comment much beyond that. Let us know how this works out for you.

OK. But I thought the whole idea of having the DAC set at 88.2 was that it was oversampling. Is that not correct?

Ciamara · « **Reply #173 on:** 23 Aug 2009, 04:38 pm »

I would check with the manufacturer of the DAC for a qualified answer, but my understanding is that this is NOT correct. Oversampling is something that certain manufacturers do with DACs, but that is an internal process. Your DAC should automatically switch sample rates, but if you have to manually set it, then the sample rate should be set to be the same as the incoming signal. What happens when you switch from 88.2 to 44.1 to 96 etc.? Does the DAC adjust automatically?

jtwrace · « **Reply #174 on:** 23 Aug 2009, 04:42 pm »

Quote from: sunjitwhy on 23 Aug 2009, 04:38 pm

I would check with the manufacturer of the DAC for a qualified answer, but my understanding is that this is NOT correct. Oversampling is something that certain manufacturers do with DACs, but that is an internal process. Your DAC should automatically switch sample rates, but if you have to manually set it, then the sample rate should be set to be the same as the incoming signal. What happens when you switch from 88.2 to 44.1 to 96 etc.? Does the DAC adjust automatically?

It does auto adjust.

Ciamara · « **Reply #175 on:** 23 Aug 2009, 04:48 pm »

Great. So there is no need to intervene with your DAC. Just let it do it's magic. Oversampling is something that certain DACs do, but again, that is an internal process. I can't speak to whether this process adds any benefit, real or perceived. Enjoy Amarra! Did you buy it? Which version?

jtwrace · « **Reply #176 on:** 23 Aug 2009, 04:52 pm »

Quote from: sunjitwhy on 23 Aug 2009, 04:48 pm

Great. So there is no need to intervene with your DAC. Just let it do it's magic. Oversampling is something that certain DACs do, but again, that is an internal process. I can't speak to whether this process adds any benefit, real or perceived. Enjoy Amarra! Did you buy it? Which version?

OK. 3162

Thanks!

Ciamara · « **Reply #177 on:** 23 Aug 2009, 05:17 pm »

Awesome. Enjoy!

jhm731 · « **Reply #178 on:** 24 Aug 2009, 10:05 pm »

Over the weekend, I compared my Macbook Amarra(Ver.3170) set up to the same tracks(16/44.1 & 24/96) played back via PS Audio PWT.

Preferred the SQ of the PWT.

Yes, I know the PWT isn't a music server, but I don't mind getting up to change disks if it sounds
better.

jtwrace · « **Reply #179 on:** 24 Aug 2009, 10:13 pm »

Where did my post go? Why was it deleted?