Star Trek

musiclovesryan · « **Reply #60 on:** 30 Jun 2009, 11:45 pm »

I feel like I'm the only person on the planet who hasn't seen this movie yet...I was busy when it came out and all my friends watched it without me. Guess I'll have to wait til it's out on DVD..that blows..

Bigfish · « **Reply #61 on:** 2 Dec 2009, 02:45 am »

Anyone other than me watched this on BluRay or DVD yet? I saw it on the Big Screen when it first came out and watched it twice on BluRay this weekend! I love this movie!

Ken

satfrat · « **Reply #62 on:** 2 Dec 2009, 02:53 am »

Yea I picked up the DVD today @ Blockbusters but haven't watched it yet. Definitely 1 of the best Star Trek movies I've ever watched,,, but then again I did watch it in IMAX.

Cheers,
Robin

TheChairGuy · « **Reply #63 on:** 2 Dec 2009, 02:55 am »

Quote from: musiclovesryan on 30 Jun 2009, 11:45 pm

I feel like I'm the only person on the planet who hasn't seen this movie yet...I was busy when it came out and all my friends watched it without me. Guess I'll have to wait til it's out on DVD..that blows..

Two people...me and you, at least

Tho I did catch 15 minutes on a screen while shopping at Best Buy this past Friday nite. It was a pretty amazing scene, actually, whet my appetite for more

John

mjosef · « **Reply #64 on:** 2 Dec 2009, 06:47 am »

Saw this last week.
Big fan of the series. The new movie was well done, great special effects. If I had to nit pick...felt the characters were somewhat on the "bratty/cocky" side, too much bravada from zee Kirk...Khan should have gone back in time and erased this young Kirk who seem to have no respect for Life in general.
But the new Trek is a welcome return of the franchise.

ctviggen · « **Reply #65 on:** 2 Dec 2009, 10:53 am »

I personally think the movie is fantastic. I bought the DVD (should've bought bluray, since I just ordered a HT computer with bluray), and left it in St. Croix with my wife for her to watch. Doh!! It's simply a great movie.

The characters are a bit cocky, but I think that's they way they were in the original series.

Reviews of this said the plot has holes in it, but the movie is so good, I can overlook those.

Bigfish · « **Reply #66 on:** 2 Dec 2009, 12:58 pm »

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If I had to nit pick...felt the characters were somewhat on the "bratty/cocky" side, too much bravada from zee Kirk.

I grew up with the original Star Trek TV Series and always felt the Kirk played by William Shatner was a cocky, bigger than life character. Both my wife and I felt that the young Jim Kirk in the new movie portrayed the kind of character that William Shatner portrayed which would have been later in his life. My wife, who is definitely not a Trekie and did not go to see the movie on the big screen, thought this movie did a good job of explaining how the original characters came to be on the Enterprise. I personally felt this is what made this movie so special for us older Trekies.

Ken

Oh yes, the deal with the time travel was a little bit over the top but I overlooked it for the overall entertainment value of this movie! If you only watch a few movies a year don't pass this one up!

dhwilkin · « **Reply #67 on:** 2 Dec 2009, 07:38 pm »

I haven't seen the movie, so can't give my opinion of it.

But I sure can give a friend's opinion on it! He's a big Trek fan, pretty knowledgeable about physics, smart guy overall. But man alive, he HATES this movie!

Anytime I want to irritate him or get him going on a ten minute rant, I just have to mention this movie. He believes the movie effectively retcons many major events of the various series into never happening (I don't know which ones) and he also says something about unbelievable black hole physics, or something like that. I find it quite amusing.

ctviggen · « **Reply #68 on:** 2 Dec 2009, 07:57 pm »

If he's that knowledgeable about physics, he can't watch any outer space adventure without being repulsed. OK, maybe 2001, A Space Odyssey, but even that gets a bit strange at the end.

WG · « **Reply #69 on:** 2 Dec 2009, 08:11 pm »

I enjoy good Science Fiction and have been a Star Trek fan since it first aired on TV. I am not an Astrophysicist nor have credentials in any scientific discipline, but really did find the treatment of Black Hole and Supernova phenom distracting from my enjoyment of the movie.

Will

whell · « **Reply #70 on:** 2 Dec 2009, 09:40 pm »

Quote from: WG on 2 Dec 2009, 08:11 pm

I enjoy good Science Fiction and have been a Star Trek fan since it first aired on TV. I am not an Astrophysicist nor have credentials in any scientific discipline, but really did find the treatment of Black Hole and Supernova phenom distracting from my enjoyment of the movie.

Will

I think with any work of fiction, you have to suspend disbelief to a certain extent. Sci Fi movies are no exception, but the genre tends to draw its own core of fans, many of whom are at least well read on science. However, for a sci fi flick like Star Trek to draw from a broader audience, it must "play a bit looser" with scientific fact.

So, while the core fans might object to some scientific implausibilities, if the movie is otherwise well made and accomplishes the goal of being profitable as Star Trek 2009 did, we can at least console ourselves with the likelihood of the franchise having more life on the big screen.

ajzepp · « **Reply #71 on:** 2 Dec 2009, 10:15 pm »

Quote from: Bigfish on 2 Dec 2009, 02:45 am

Anyone other than me watched this on BluRay or DVD yet? I saw it on the Big Screen when it first came out and watched it twice on BluRay this weekend! I love this movie!

Ken

Just watched it on BD after having seen the IMAX presentation when it was in theaters. I liked it as much or more the second time. This reboot exceeded almost every expectation I had, particularly the guy playing Bones...he's spot on!

As for the time travel thing, you have to realize that that was a plot device installed to allow for the reboot to go in a different direction...one that gives JJ Abrahms and his creative staff complete flexibility with regard to future story lines. Personally, I wouldn't want to see them just re-make the first few Star Trek films....I look forward to seeing how JJ places the pieces of the Star Trek universe in subsequent adventures

dhwilkin · « **Reply #72 on:** 2 Dec 2009, 10:26 pm »

Quote from: ctviggen on 2 Dec 2009, 07:57 pm

If he's that knowledgeable about physics, he can't watch any outer space adventure without being repulsed. OK, maybe 2001, A Space Odyssey, but even that gets a bit strange at the end.

Well, my friend does enjoy many sci-fi movies in space (Serenity, original Star Wars trilogy, etc...), he can suspend disbelief for things like warp drives, but his specific problem with the physics here was the black hole allowing time travel and not killing everybody in the process... I think. I am not a physics expert. I think compounding his irritation is that's what allowed the retconning, and he really was not in favor of any retconning.

maxwalrath · « **Reply #73 on:** 2 Dec 2009, 10:33 pm »

I remembered this from my 300 level astronomy classes and just confirmed it on Wikipedia...you can be within the "boundaries" of supermassive black holes without being ripped apart, just not near the center.

"The tidal forces in the vicinity of the event horizon are significantly weaker. Since the central singularity is so far away from the horizon, a hypothetical astronaut travelling towards the black hole center would not experience significant tidal force until very deep into the black hole."

ctviggen · « **Reply #74 on:** 2 Dec 2009, 10:50 pm »

Quote from: dhwilkin on 2 Dec 2009, 10:26 pm

Quote from: ctviggen on 2 Dec 2009, 07:57 pm
If he's that knowledgeable about physics, he can't watch any outer space adventure without being repulsed. OK, maybe 2001, A Space Odyssey, but even that gets a bit strange at the end.
Well, my friend does enjoy many sci-fi movies in space (Serenity, original Star Wars trilogy, etc...), he can suspend disbelief for things like warp drives, but his specific problem with the physics here was the black hole allowing time travel and not killing everybody in the process... I think. I am not a physics expert. I think compounding his irritation is that's what allowed the retconning, and he really was not in favor of any retconning.

Doesn't anyone use English any more? I'd never heard the term "retconning"; I had to google it. Personally, I had no problems with the movie or the "retconning". You can't keep a series such as this going for this long and making as new as they did without taking some liberties.

On the other hand, one of my friends hated the new Wolverine movie because of the liberties they took with a single character.

WG · « **Reply #75 on:** 3 Dec 2009, 12:17 am »

I think with any work of fiction, you have to suspend disbelief to a certain extent. Sci Fi movies are no exception, but the genre tends to draw its own core of fans, many of whom are at least well read on science. However, for a sci fi flick like Star Trek to draw from a broader audience, it must "play a bit looser" with scientific fact.

So, while the core fans might object to some scientific implausibilities, if the movie is otherwise well made and accomplishes the goal of being profitable as Star Trek 2009 did, we can at least console ourselves with the likelihood of the franchise having more life on the big screen.
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whell,

Well said and I agree. Funny, I can so easily accept a fantastic foundation of a novel or movie, but can be distracted by a particular I don't readily accept to the extent it takes me out of the moment.

Regards,
Will

pardales · « **Reply #76 on:** 3 Dec 2009, 12:54 am »

I really enjoyed this movie!

Kenobi · « **Reply #77 on:** 4 Dec 2009, 06:34 pm »

Great movie! The low bass on this bluray caused my projector to mis-allign and was shaking the house throughout certain scenes to complete unwatchability--like in the middle of an earthquake.

Anyone else experienced this?

Regards,

Kenobi

jsaliga · « **Reply #78 on:** 3 Mar 2010, 08:13 pm »

I thought this movie was so bad I couldn't even finish it. I guess I am just getting tired of all these CGI in-your-face and obnoxiously loud action extraveganzas. Real story telling is becoming a lost art. I don't think Abrams held a single shot in this film longer than two or three seconds, and the way the picture is framed most shots are just too crowded which does little more than subject the viewer to visual overload. This is movie making ESPN Xtreme Sports style and I just don't like it. I think Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan eats this picture alive in almost every aspect (though I did find that Zachary Quinto did a somewhat decent job as Spock).

--Jerome

BobM · « **Reply #79 on:** 3 Mar 2010, 08:25 pm »

You must be getting old

Actually this is the way things are done these days. The kids are into fast paced changes with video games and sports shows and such, so movies have to keep up for them to be interested. There are few action movies these days that even have a hint of real plot and emotion or longish scenes. At least not since the Borne series came out.

My daughter couldn't understand why I didn't like the new Sherlock Holmes movie so much when she thought it was awesome.