Music You cannot Stand & Why?

sts9fan · « **Reply #40 on:** 19 Jan 2009, 01:16 pm »

Classical
Jazz
Rock
Opera
Bluegrass
RAPIN
vocals
Instrumentals
old timey crap
new timey crap
Tech-no!
Jam Bands

I only listen to test tones to check out my system

djbnh · « **Reply #41 on:** 19 Jan 2009, 01:39 pm »

Yanni. John Tesh. Nonsensical noodling

Genesis w/o Peter Gabriel. More "pop" than imagination.

Phil Collins. More "pop" than soda pop.

Andrew Lloyd Webber "music". WTF? Let's try Wagner instead.

Phish. See Yanni and John Tesh comments.

Celine Dion. Nausea following by bile in mouth, compounded by the pleasure of cats screeching.

Avril Lavigne. "Although I'm a poseur, buy my music. Come on, I'm sometimes almost pretty."

nathanm · « **Reply #42 on:** 19 Jan 2009, 01:51 pm »

After putting a name to the band, I will eagerly add Nickelback to the shitlist. The singer is extremely annoying. It's like an evil bizarro Hetfield imitation. Most of the current rock radio singing style annoys the hell out of me. Hard to describe on a message board, though.

Wind Chaser · « **Reply #43 on:** 19 Jan 2009, 03:22 pm »

Jazz Fusion - aka: Jazz confusion, where every musician does his own thing. It's that kind of crap that can only be described as a bedlam of noise.

martinr · « **Reply #44 on:** 19 Jan 2009, 04:22 pm »

Rap insults human intelligence....
One one hand you have serious musicians that spend hours (sometimes the majority of their lives) studying music, perfecting their craft, and playing their instrument(s) really well.

One the other hand you have some dude with pants around his knees ranting that he's gonna bust a cap in you.
I see little if any real talent in being able to put words together quickly, I think a more accurate name should be spew.

Lyndon · « **Reply #45 on:** 19 Jan 2009, 04:41 pm »

Hmmmm...
Generic, but I can't stand any singer with great vocal chops, just strutting around the stage showing off their prowess, with no heart in what they are singing.
That is like Whitney, Mariah, Ronnie Dunn of Brooks and Dunn, American Idol, etc.

On the other side of the coin, there are a lot of singers and performances that I'll take to the grave if the combination
of the melody, lyrics and the heartfelt phrasing of the singer strikes home and true.

Example: Acoustic version of "Talk to Me of Mendocino" Kate and Anna McGarrigle

Staying with the theme, Frank Zappa collected a bunch of artists back in the late Sixties, and put out a potpourri promotinal album for his Bizarre label, album called "Zapped".
Playlist:
1. Alice Cooper - Titanic Overture 1:09
2. Captain Beefheart - The Blimp 2:04
3. Judy Henske & Jerry Yester - Horses On A Stick 2:10
4. Tim Buckley - I Must Have Been Blind 3:40
5. Wild Man Fischer - Merry-Go-Round 1:56
6. Alice Cooper - Reflected 3:10
7. Time Dawe - Little Boy Blue 2:15
8. Lord Buckley - The Train 2:24
9. Jeff Simmon - Lucille Has Messed My Mind Up
10. Captain Beefheart - Old Fart At Play
11. The Mothers Of Invention - Valarie
12. GTO's - Do Me In One And I'll Be Sad. Do Me Twice And I'll Know Better (Circular Circulation) 2:19
13. Frank Zappa - Willie The Pimp

On that album, track number 5, I had to get up and physically cue the next cut. I never want to hear Wild Man Fischer
singing "Merry-Go-Round" again!

bunnyma357 · « **Reply #46 on:** 19 Jan 2009, 05:04 pm »

Quote from: Lyndon on 19 Jan 2009, 04:41 pm

On that album, track number 5, I had to get up and physically cue the next cut. I never want to hear Wild Man Fischer
singing "Merry-Go-Round" again!

It's interesting that one of the more respected re-issue labels got their start releasing Wildman Fischer's "Go to Rhino Records"

Personally, I have a strange fascination (in very small doses) for insane "artists" like Wildman Fischer.

Jim C

Lyndon · « **Reply #47 on:** 19 Jan 2009, 05:50 pm »

Bunnyma357 said:

Quote

(in very small doses)

I think that is the key, Jim.
And Rhino gets a tip of the hat from me, for some excellent reissues. I was sorry the day they were absorbed into
Warner Bros. record group (WEA, right?)

Rocky Rhino!

Best record company line: Stiff Records, if it ain't stiff, it ain't worth...

stereocilia · « **Reply #48 on:** 19 Jan 2009, 05:53 pm »

You guys have great taste in bad music.

"Crazy" by Gnarls Barkley -- I don't get the appeal of that one.

Regalma · « **Reply #49 on:** 19 Jan 2009, 08:20 pm »

Rather than pick on one genre or performer I'm going to refer to a study I heard about on NPR while driving to work one day. They tested commuters to see how stressed they were when they got to work. They had them play different kinds of music or nothing. What they found was that if the commuter listened to a type of music they like, regardless of what it was, they arrived less stressed than if they didn't listen to any music. But if they listened to Musak they arrived more stressed than if they had listened to nothing.

That pretty summarizes what I think bad music is - any music where the performers don't put their heart into it. Drives me nuts.

nathanm · « **Reply #50 on:** 19 Jan 2009, 09:44 pm »

Quote from: Regalma on 19 Jan 2009, 08:20 pm

But if they listened to Muzak they arrived more stressed than if they had listened to nothing.

I heartily endorse this finding.

BrassEar · « **Reply #51 on:** 19 Jan 2009, 10:47 pm »

Quote from: martinr on 19 Jan 2009, 04:22 pm

Rap insults human intelligence....
One the other hand you have some dude with pants around his knees ranting that he's gonna bust a cap in you.
I see little if any real talent in being able to put words together quickly, I think a more accurate name should be spew.

Great observation.

Rap has NO heart, NO soul. No wonder Ray Charles also said he considered it "irrelevant"

nathanm · « **Reply #52 on:** 19 Jan 2009, 11:40 pm »

Not liking or even hating rap is one thing, but to claim the entire genre has no heart and soul, or doesn't require talent is just not fair. That's just overstating your case. You don't like what you've heard which is fine, but you haven't heard everything so how is it possible to claim that there's nothing out there worthy of respect? That's trying to go beyond saying "I hate it" and claiming that it is somehow objectively flawed.

martinr · « **Reply #53 on:** 20 Jan 2009, 12:53 am »

Quote from: nathanm on 19 Jan 2009, 11:40 pm

Not liking or even hating rap is one thing, but to claim the entire genre has no heart and soul, or doesn't require talent is just not fair. That's just overstating your case. You don't like what you've heard which is fine, but you haven't heard everything so how is it possible to claim that there's nothing out there worthy of respect? That's trying to go beyond saying "I hate it" and claiming that it is somehow objectively flawed.

I think an argument can be made that RAP may be objectively flawed. My definition of talent is conventional - someone who is a great vocalist or musician. Maybe there is some RAP that might be considered to be thoughtful tasteful music played by RAP virtuosos that one could consider to be music of value (that sentence sounds sounds contradictory aa)... I think most RAP artists give RAP a bad name because of the caustic lyrics and continuous 4/4 beat with the accent on the 3 and the fact that many seem to land in jail or dead...the whole RAP genre is irritating in the least.
just MHO - it would be great if someone can post a link to a you tube video that shows a RAP virtuoso blowin, Id like to see it.
just my 2 cents

django11 · « **Reply #54 on:** 20 Jan 2009, 02:23 am »

I kinda wonder if it isn't difficult,after having attained a certain age, to appreciate or "get" a new musical style. My father used to love Artie Shaw and Tommy Dorsey but his comment for anything post Elvis Presley was "that's not music!". Which is my comment on most rap. A lot of rap is just forgettable teenage crap (especially gansta rap). Right now I'm listening to some trip hop which grew out of hip hop which encompasses rap. So rap must be music

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django11 · « **Reply #55 on:** 20 Jan 2009, 02:37 am »

Quote from: martinr on 20 Jan 2009, 12:53 am

- it would be great if someone can post a link to a you tube video that shows a RAP virtuoso blowin, Id like to see it.
just my 2 cents

I don't know much about rap (I'm 46) but I think this is fun (is it technically rap?) and it gets my head boppin'

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vmv--UJ3eJM

I would add this song by Wyclef Jean which is really good and quite surprising. I can't find a video or the whole song. Just a sample: "Hollyhood to Hollywood" http://www.ilike.com/artist/Wyclef+Jean/album/The+Ecleftic%3A+2+Sides+II+a+Book

Wind Chaser · « **Reply #56 on:** 20 Jan 2009, 03:16 am »

Rapping isn't singing, it's talking with attitude combined with a tribal beat. That's not music, that's just damn right irritating noise to anyone within the remnant of the cultural norm which, unfortunately is giving way to a new generation of the insolent subhuman.

The future prospects of civilization are grim, not because of economic or ecological concerns, but the toxicity of the present generation.

Russell Dawkins · « **Reply #57 on:** 20 Jan 2009, 04:23 am »

It's amazing how every generation says something like this, as predictably as the younger generation in question dissing the older - neither one really hearing themselves clearly.

Wind Chaser · « **Reply #58 on:** 20 Jan 2009, 04:38 am »

Quote from: Russell Dawkins on 20 Jan 2009, 04:23 am

It's amazing how every generation says something like this, as predictably as the younger generation in question dissing the older - neither one really hearing themselves clearly.

Hardly...

nathanm · « **Reply #59 on:** 20 Jan 2009, 05:22 pm »

We like to dismiss the stuff we hate by trying to reduce it to simple elements, as if the music we like was infinitely more complex. Sure, rap could be disparagingly described as talking over a beat, but rock music can equally be dismissed as "oh it's just singing over a beat with guitar chords" or jazz is just "playing scales over a beat" or something. It's not valid, all music can be boiled down in such a manner, but that doesn't make it illegitimate.

It's not fair to say that each succeeding generation of listeners and musicians keeps getting worse, but it might be more accurate to say that the relative model of the music scene stays the same with highly successful, albeit artistically lacking music being very popular and more earnest stuff being less popular but passionately enjoyed by smaller groups of people.