NEW! diffractionbegone results

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lonewolfny42

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Re: NEW! diffractionbegone results
« Reply #80 on: 29 Nov 2007, 08:36 am »


Kenny Drew....Niels-Henning Ørsted Pedersen on bass.Track 9 Last Tango In Paris.

The Dutch Jazz Music sampler is from 2004...hard to find...I got lucky.

Ben Vaughn....Designs In Music......intriguing music.

Paul Chambers....Bass On Top......1957.
Personnel includes: Paul Chambers (bass); Kenny Burrell (guitar); Hank Jones (piano); Art Taylor (drums).

Happy listening.... :thumb:

jimdgoulding

Re: NEW! diffractionbegone results
« Reply #81 on: 30 Nov 2007, 04:25 pm »
Just thought I would let any and all know that I have begun to fit for speakers with off set tweeters so long as the cabinet isn't greater than 8" wide.  10.5" for conventionally centered tweeters.  Cabinets larger than that would be a custom job.  Jim
« Last Edit: 30 Nov 2007, 11:11 pm by jimdgoulding »

richidoo

Re: NEW! diffractionbegone results
« Reply #82 on: 30 Nov 2007, 08:15 pm »

Kenny Drew is my favorite pianist after Bud.
Sorry for the tangent but I couldn't resist! I gotta check out that track again, thanks LW.
Rich

Val

Re: NEW! diffractionbegone results
« Reply #83 on: 3 Dec 2007, 05:03 pm »
Jim, I guess you can accomodate my dear ACI Sapphires with offset tweeters? I am ready when you are :)

jimdgoulding

Re: NEW! diffractionbegone results
« Reply #84 on: 3 Dec 2007, 11:53 pm »
Yes, indeedy, mon ami Val.  In a PM, please tell me the distance from the center point of your tweeter to the edge of the near side of your cabinet AND the distance from the top of your cabinet to center point of your tweeter / your tweeter's actual diameter / and the distance from the center point of your tweeter to the top of your mid/bass mounting basket.  Clear as a bell?  Let me know if you have any questions. 

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« Last Edit: 4 Dec 2007, 04:35 am by jimdgoulding »

mfsoa

Re: NEW! diffractionbegone results
« Reply #85 on: 4 Dec 2007, 12:00 am »
Mine are on the way

Mine are on the way

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Val

Re: NEW! diffractionbegone results
« Reply #86 on: 4 Dec 2007, 05:11 am »
Thanks, Jim, will do.

sturgus

Re: NEW! diffractionbegone results
« Reply #87 on: 9 Dec 2007, 03:13 am »
Just to put my 2 cents in. I think these wool surrounds are a best buy tweak. I have had them on for about three weeks. What I notice most is more focus and less distortion. My soundstage is slightly smaller but I gained more depth. Not bad for $30.00. Good job Jim.
Sturgus

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Re: NEW! diffractionbegone results
« Reply #88 on: 20 Dec 2007, 06:49 pm »
Must admit, Sturg, I’m a might puzzled by your experience of a smaller stage.  It’s certainly not that way around here.  Might I suggest that you are hearing less of a queue from your speakers.  Turn out the lights completely like we used to do when we were younger and see if you still feel thataway.  Don’t know about you, but I use less of a toe-in than before.  But, I know you’re happy :P.     

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Re: NEW! diffractionbegone results
« Reply #89 on: 20 Dec 2007, 07:48 pm »
 In regards to a smaller soundstage, I've used F13 and F11 wool felt for diffraction control on my Scanspeak Revelators- similiar to what's being done here. In all configurations I have experienced a slight reduction in sweetspot size and soundstage width and height.
 I have also experienced much greater image stability, soundstage depth and tamed peaks and room resonance from felting. For me the trade off is a no brainer, and I am a real believer in felting. However, if I had a perfectly designed and treated room I believe my speakers might sound better with out it. I'll probably never be able to test that theory though :(

jimdgoulding

Re: NEW! diffractionbegone results
« Reply #90 on: 21 Dec 2007, 01:34 am »
I think I may have a room like that.  Dimension wise, ay any rate, and for the size speakers that I use.   However, I don’t use any wall treatment because the virtual stage is most always convincingly real.  Speaker placement with my seat and the distance from my room boundaries in combination are contributing to this, no doubt.  Imagery is pretty physical regardless of where they appear on stage and they stay put and have characteristics that make me think they are real.  My speakers replaced large panel speakers in this room by the way.  And you know that thing called listener fatigue . . anybody notice it missing?  Enjoy . . :whip:   

Since I'm modifying this a day later, I would like to thank DJBNH (below) for posting his impressions.  He is the second AC member who has said he's glad he kept his speakers.  The third, if you include me. 
« Last Edit: 24 Dec 2007, 06:21 pm by jimdgoulding »

djbnh

Re: NEW! diffractionbegone results
« Reply #91 on: 22 Dec 2007, 08:12 pm »
Want to throw out a big "Merry Christmas" shout of thanks to Jim Goulding, and two thumbs up for his product.

The short version of the story is that Jim did a wonderful piece of custom felt surround work for each pair of tweeters for my Polk SDA 1-C speakers. His patience and guidance throughout the process was much appreciated, and his willingness to go the extra mile to make sure everything was just right was warmly appreciated. Jim, you're quite the gentleman, and your help and winning manner are greatly appreciated.

So, does the product work as advertised? That's a resounding "yes" in my system to my ears. The results I'm hearing are akin to the positives elsewhere posted in the thread: better imaging (and the speakers imaged well before), speakers seem to disappear, improved depth of soundstage (which I felt was already good to go), etc. Additionally, the Polk's SDA effect has been even more enhanced (which at first thought seems reasonable and consistent with the improved imaging others have mentioned; however, Polk does the SDA effect with a combination of 4 drivers in each speaker (2 regular, 2 SDA), so somehow my brain is interpreting the change to the tweeters / highs as improving the SDA effect.). My 1Cs are absolutely  more enjoyable to me. I'm wicked glad I've held on to these speakers; Jim's product has brought them to a new, improved level of refinement.

I note that each Polk speaker has a pair of tweeters that are: 1) positioned vertically one above the other, 2) positioned atop (not flush) with the speaker face board, and 3) time aligned with the drivers. Jim's craftsmanship / ability to custom cut the felts to relatively close tolerances was impressive and necessary for the installation to succeed in this application. Also, I needed additional Velcro as compared to simpler installations, which Jim was happy to provide. So, thanks again Jim for a job extremely well done, and I'm pleased to consider myself a 100% satisfied customer.  :thumb:  :thumb:

Filterlab

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Re: NEW! diffractionbegone results
« Reply #92 on: 3 Jan 2008, 02:07 pm »
Hello there!

My name's Rob, and I'm a moderator and visual layout designer on a small site called Hi-Fi Corner.

Jim joined our site a month or so ago and introduced his product on our trade section. Being an inquisitive fellow, and one always looking for fruitful and imaginative tweaks, I thought I'd give his diffractionbegone baffle covers a go.

System:
Musical Fidelity A3.5CD
Net Audio Sonance Mk2 DAC
Intact Audio Autoformer passive pre-amp
Audiolab 8000P power amp
Revel M22 Performa speakers with dedicated stands
Krystal Avenger interconnects
QED X-Tube 400 speaker cable

This is what I posted on Hi-Fi Corner:

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Okey dokey, I bought a set of these a couple of weeks back, popped them on (with the intention of A/B testing) and was KNOCKED OVER by just how amazing these things are!

These things are staggeringly impressive! The improvement in midrange clarity and immediacy (snare, guitar, handclap) is the real bonus - on top of HUGE image improvement and real bassline legibility, voices too just hang in the air and have a 'there' clarity to them - a seriously excellent product at the price of 3 CDs (and that's to the UK from Texas too!).

Astounding! Thanks Jim!

...And my PM to Jim...

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Hehehehe, put them on - never took them off. Mate, these things are AMAZING! The change (read; improvement) in sound has completely knocked me for six! The largest change was a vast improvement in imaging, I have the depth of image I used to have with my Martin Logans - something I never thought possible with a dynamic speaker.

Then there's the bassline legibility, seriously the slight mist has now evaporated and the bass notes start and stop with an unnerving clarity. Then there's the crack of the snare drums, the click of the rimshots and the strum of the classical guitars - all so much clearer than before.

I'm not sure exactly of the science, but one thing's for sure - this is the best £28 I've ever spent mate!

Top stuff Jim, thanks so much. If you'd like a testimonial for your website then please quote anything from above or let me know if you want something authored. I've been flat out busy recently so haven't had time to write an article on here, but rest assured I will.

So all in all you could say I'm impressed to say the least. Seriously this is such an amazing tweak, not only because of the excellent price (and service might I add) but also as the results are immediate - no waiting for things to run in and settle down, none of this "you'll start to hear the effects after 100 hours" type stuff, just immediate and clear improvements.

Jim was so pleased that I "got it", but I defy anyone to grab a set of these and NOT hear the difference.

A top quality product and worthy of anyone's money.
« Last Edit: 3 Jan 2008, 02:25 pm by Filterlab »

Big Red Machine

Re: NEW! diffractionbegone results
« Reply #93 on: 3 Jan 2008, 02:56 pm »
How are these pads attached without damaging the finishes?

Filterlab

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Re: NEW! diffractionbegone results
« Reply #94 on: 3 Jan 2008, 07:50 pm »
It's two self-adhesive pads per speaker, just at the top of each cover. Strong enough to hold but easy to remove if necessary.

AliG

Re: NEW! diffractionbegone results
« Reply #95 on: 3 Jan 2008, 08:05 pm »
Is there a reason why the pad has to be so big? It covers almost the entire speaker width. Can it not be just a small ring around the tweeter?

Filterlab

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Re: NEW! diffractionbegone results
« Reply #96 on: 3 Jan 2008, 08:14 pm »
I think that's the whole point mate, it completely removes diffraction from the tweeter.

Here's a couple of shots of my M22s with the baffle covers in place. I think they look really nice actually. :)







Jim, would it be detrimental or beneficial to create a surround which covers the whole of the baffle?



Big Red Machine

Re: NEW! diffractionbegone results
« Reply #97 on: 3 Jan 2008, 08:30 pm »
Is there a reason why the pad has to be so big? It covers almost the entire speaker width. Can it not be just a small ring around the tweeter?

Barry, depending on the frequency, the signal has different lengths, correct?  So therefore the entire front of the speaker is reflecting the (shorter) tweeter outputs.  That's why the front edges of your HT3's are rounded.

srb

Re: NEW! diffractionbegone results
« Reply #98 on: 3 Jan 2008, 11:50 pm »
Jim,

Sorry if I missed it, but have you made ones for the Aurum Cantus G2 series ribbon tweeters (or Fountek or similar)?

Steve

jimdgoulding

Re: NEW! diffractionbegone results
« Reply #99 on: 4 Jan 2008, 03:46 am »
Steve-  Hi.  I looked for your model at Aurum's website but couldn't find it.  Perhaps you can direct me to a photo.  But, I have fitted for what I believe is a Fountek ribbon on a pair of Selah speakers.  Ribbons sometimes vary in length and how they are set in the baffle.  It would be good if we could communicate further.  Kindly contact me at my personal email address.  Thank you.  Jim

Filterlab-  Not as much benefit to be had cause the wavelengths are longer than your, and most, dynamic speaker enclosures are wide.  Longer wavelengths will wrap around their enclosures to be reflected later in time by room boundaries sometimes to the detriment of frequency response.
« Last Edit: 4 Jan 2008, 05:10 am by jimdgoulding »