Promitheus TVC passive preamp anyone?

rollo · « **Reply #660 on:** 4 Jan 2007, 05:36 pm »

Jaspal,
Put on some rock but it better be well recorded as the TVC will tell all.Emmylou Harris Deep Well trk. made my pants flap with the low bass.The Moody Blues Question of Balance was tohgh to handle as the CD version is a tad bright.
This TVC is extremely revealing of source matreial as it is very neutral in character.Don't listen to much rock now at 55 yrs old but pulled out Susan Vega live and almost crapped with the alive presentation and house shaking bass.
The wire Is the internal wiring from trannie to output RCA's and of course from input RCA to trannie.Nichcolas is wiring my second unit with double runs of silver which he states will provide more weight to the sound than a single run of silver.
I will listen to both versions, go to copper asits only 6 wires to change.Will listen again and let you know,should have second unit in a couple of weeks.

smccull · « **Reply #661 on:** 4 Jan 2007, 05:43 pm »

Has anyone heard from Nick via email lately? I know he's having trouble because of the earthquake but I haven't received a response from my last two emails.

tbabb · « **Reply #662 on:** 4 Jan 2007, 06:38 pm »

He has not responded to my last email yet. I know there are some internet issues with that area of the globe because of a snapped main internet line due to an Earthquake.

Tim

Quote from: smccull on 4 Jan 2007, 05:43 pm

Has anyone heard from Nick via email lately? I know he's having trouble because of the earthquake but I haven't received a response from my last two emails.

tbabb · « **Reply #663 on:** 4 Jan 2007, 06:41 pm »

I would hope all future TVC's from Nichcolas would incorporate these additional runs of wire? Who would not want more weight to the sound?

If Nichcolas ever gets around to responding to e-mails I intend to ask him about this. Thanks for the mention.

Tim

Quote from: rollo on 4 Jan 2007, 05:36 pm

The wire Is the internal wiring from trannie to output RCA's and of course from input RCA to trannie.Nichcolas is wiring my second unit with double runs of silver which he states will provide more weight to the sound than a single run of silver.
I will listen to both versions, go to copper asits only 6 wires to change.Will listen again and let you know,should have second unit in a couple of weeks.

Early B. · « **Reply #664 on:** 4 Jan 2007, 06:44 pm »

I agree. I'm gonna e-mail Nick and ask him to add additional wires to my TVC he's currently making. How much extra cost is it?

Quote from: tbabb on 4 Jan 2007, 06:41 pm

I would hope all future TVC's from Nichcolas would incorporate these additional runs of wire? Who would not want more weight to the sound?

If Nichcolas ever gets around to responding to e-mails I intend to ask him about this. Thanks for the mention.

Tim

Quote from: rollo on 4 Jan 2007, 05:36 pm

The wire Is the internal wiring from trannie to output RCA's and of course from input RCA to trannie.Nichcolas is wiring my second unit with double runs of silver which he states will provide more weight to the sound than a single run of silver.
I will listen to both versions, go to copper asits only 6 wires to change.Will listen again and let you know,should have second unit in a couple of weeks.

launche · « **Reply #665 on:** 4 Jan 2007, 07:59 pm »

Can anyone provide pics of the internals of the Reference TVC's?

Thanks

rollo · « **Reply #666 on:** 4 Jan 2007, 08:24 pm »

Hey guys,
Nichcolas is alive and well,He emailed me yesterday.We did not talk price of double run of silver,I don't believe it be much if anything at all.You will trade off some transparency however its so transparent to begin with I don't believe it will matter.
He may not respond right away but hes listening
rollo

acd483 · « **Reply #667 on:** 4 Jan 2007, 08:29 pm »

I found the most unbelievably produced recordings I own to be from Sade. Simply stunning. Also Mark Knopfler, Jesse Winchester and Alison Krauss...my god her voice comes through like an angel from heaven!

rollo · « **Reply #668 on:** 4 Jan 2007, 08:35 pm »

ACD483,
If you like Krauss try EVA CASSIDY Live At Blues Alley.Nice stuff angel like as well
rollo

smccull · « **Reply #669 on:** 4 Jan 2007, 09:10 pm »

Glad to hear Nicholas is doing well!

NewBuyer · « **Reply #670 on:** 4 Jan 2007, 09:32 pm »

Quote from: rollo on 4 Jan 2007, 05:36 pm

The wire Is the internal wiring from trannie to output RCA's and of course from input RCA to trannie.Nichcolas is wiring my second unit with double runs of silver which he states will provide more weight to the sound than a single run of silver.
I will listen to both versions, go to copper asits only 6 wires to change.Will listen again and let you know,should have second unit in a couple of weeks.

Quote from: tbabb on 4 Jan 2007, 06:41 pm

I would hope all future TVC's from Nichcolas would incorporate these additional runs of wire? Who would not want more weight to the sound?

If Nichcolas ever gets around to responding to e-mails I intend to ask him about this. Thanks for the mention.

Tim

I agree, hopefully this is now done on all new TVC's. Nicholas if your internet is working, can you please confirm that double runs of silver wire internally will be the standard now?

rollo · « **Reply #671 on:** 4 Jan 2007, 11:43 pm »

NEWBUYER,

Nick is doing the double run of wire at my request it cost extra and is not standard.Sorry if I was not clear enough.
rollo

guest1632 · « **Reply #672 on:** 5 Jan 2007, 12:14 am »

Quote from: rollo on 4 Jan 2007, 11:43 pm

NEWBUYER,

Nick is doing the double run of wire at my request it cost extra and is not standard.Sorry if I was not clear enough.
rollo

Hey Rollo,

How much you paying extra for the double run of wire. Are you doing all of it or just the ouputs?

Regards,
Ray

PromitheusAudio · « **Reply #673 on:** 5 Jan 2007, 12:32 am »

HI guys
all is well. Internet is still patchy but better than nothing.

On the double runs, i am going to try it out to see how it works out first and report back to group so you can decide. I will bring about some improvement and some negative but then again depending on which group you are going to fall in between. Some people swear and die by transparency, some like myself would like a complete picture.

I would like to ask how many of your guys would prefer more body and weight over transparency

On the extra run got to be a bit carefully on where it going to be. If you have double strand for everwhere you would lose quite a far bit of transparency. The trick here that i need to find out is where is the least negative place to put it. I believe it should be kept at on the outputs first and then later from input to the tvc selector.

Additional cost should not be too much to do so.

I am sort of a rocker/jazz fan. IT is good to know how one system performs with rock and classical has both of this reveals system short fall. Me i am just a Dire Straits fan.

newbuyer
i update the power energize with the new pictures so that you can check it out.
http://www.promitheusaudio.com/powerenergizer.htm

Cheers
nicholas

GHM · « **Reply #674 on:** 5 Jan 2007, 01:18 am »

More weight?

I find by just changing sources you change fullness, weight ..etc. Very interesting none the less..I look forward to reading the impressions of the owners who try this. Glad you're still kicking Nick!

guest1632 · « **Reply #675 on:** 5 Jan 2007, 01:51 am »

Quote from: PromitheusAudio on 5 Jan 2007, 12:32 am

HI guys
all is well. Internet is still patchy but better than nothing.

On the double runs, i am going to try it out to see how it works out first and report back to group so you can decide. I will bring about some improvement and some negative but then again depending on which group you are going to fall in between. Some people swear and die by transparency, some like myself would like a complete picture.

I would like to ask how many of your guys would prefer more body and weight over transparency

On the extra run got to be a bit carefully on where it going to be. If you have double strand for everwhere you would lose quite a far bit of transparency. The trick here that i need to find out is where is the least negative place to put it. I believe it should be kept at on the outputs first and then later from input to the tvc selector.

Additional cost should not be too much to do so.

I am sort of a rocker/jazz fan. IT is good to know how one system performs with rock and classical has both of this reveals system short fall. Me i am just a Dire Straits fan.

newbuyer
i update the power energize with the new pictures so that you can check it out.
http://www.promitheusaudio.com/powerenergizer.htm

Cheers
nicholas

Hi Nicholas,

I figure that doing a double run from just one of the outputs would be a good idea. Then you can choose your poison. One output would be transparent, and the other one would have a little more weight. I'll give you an idea to play with.

On the one with the double run, you might also see if leaving one of the wires unhooked at the RCA end forming a fantoom ground would make any difference. Or maybe, just do the double run on the hot side of the RCA. Just more ideas.

Regards,
Ray

gooberdude · « **Reply #676 on:** 5 Jan 2007, 02:06 am »

Hey Nick,

The Energizer looks like quite a bit of work, that's a gigantic transformer. Would it be possible to have small spikes added to the base of it? Also, could a mass damped platform (like for the TVC) be used for the base of the Energizer?

In regards to the issue of body & weight versus clarity, this TVC bridges that gap nicely in my system - individual mileage may vary. Adding more depth to the body & weight is my vote. this thing rocks as is though.

If existing TVC users feel there's an issue with the body or weight of the presentation, i again recomend playing with the mounting of it. in my system, pointed brass footers and a suspended tonewood platform make the TVC growl - like a nice guitar amp. listening with just the TVC sitting on Nicks freebie cones is not as much fun. the magical midband, 3-D imagery & thunderous musical bass presence shrinks...a lot.

Did someone mention copper wiring as well? some nice cryo'd copper might be cool.

tbabb · « **Reply #677 on:** 5 Jan 2007, 02:21 am »

That's really good info to know! I already have some brass footers, Cerapucs and 3" thick Maple platform ready and waiting for my TVC to arrive. So I guess with this new info, I'll just keep my TVC with the single run for now.

From my experience there is not one component in my system that has not benefited from better footers and proper vibration grounding.

For what it's worth, for components, I found Finite Elemente Cerapucs were superior in imaging and micro-detail than the brass footers. Brass adds a bit of color, but for some that's a good thing.

Tim

Quote from: gooberdude on 5 Jan 2007, 02:06 am

In regards to the issue of body & weight versus clarity, this TVC bridges that gap nicely in my system - individual mileage may vary. Adding more depth to the body & weight is my vote. this thing rocks as is though.

If existing TVC users feel there's an issue with the body or weight of the presentation, i again recomend playing with the mounting of it. in my system, pointed brass footers and a suspended tonewood platform make the TVC growl - like a nice guitar amp. listening with just the TVC sitting on Nicks freebie cones is not as much fun. the magical midband, 3-D imagery & thunderous musical bass presence shrinks...a lot.

Did someone mention copper wiring as well? some nice cryo'd copper might be cool.

smccull · « **Reply #678 on:** 5 Jan 2007, 05:44 am »

Nicholas,

Like you, I would vote for more weight over transparency. In fact, if you haven't finished my unit, I'd like to learn what it would take to add the double run as you've specified.

Let me know.

guest1632 · « **Reply #679 on:** 5 Jan 2007, 09:00 am »

Quote from: tbabb on 5 Jan 2007, 02:21 am

That's really good info to know! I already have some brass footers, Cerapucs and 3" thick Maple platform ready and waiting for my TVC to arrive. So I guess with this new info, I'll just keep my TVC with the single run for now.

From my experience there is not one component in my system that has not benefited from better footers and proper vibration grounding.

For what it's worth, for components, I found Finite Elemente Cerapucs were superior in imaging and micro-detail than the brass footers. Brass adds a bit of color, but for some that's a good thing.

Tim

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So where do I get this "Finite Elemente Cerapucs" stuff?

Regards,
[Ray]

Promitheus TVC passive preamp anyone?

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