[ajayrav]

I don't think two questions have been answered satifactorily in this thread.  What do the new Opus owners think about the sound of their recent acquisition?  How is the sound through the Opus' internal DACs, as most would probably use them?  Is the sound worse through external DACs?  While science and design are VERY important, ultimately, IMHO, it is the sound, and only the sound that matters to me.

[95bcwh]

From the very beginning it was clear that Maui had an agenda involving the deal J Castler had set up. He repeatedly has been attacking the "group buy" and also his own loss on the several units he intended to sell. So now he has narrowed his smear from three parties to just Olive. Maybe if he had done that from the start he would be more credible...kinda shot himself in the foot

I don't believe he shot himself in the foot. He said what he thought was the truth. He's writing may sound illogical at times, but if you know him personally, he is a very logical person. He bought a few Olive Opus, he opened it up, at first he was very pleased with it, he told me to shut the "F&*#" up and just order one from him because it is that GOOD. As I was busy sorting out my credit card, all of a sudden he 'disappeared' for one day, and then he re-appeared and told me to forget about everything he said about the Opus, he would rather bury these units in his backyard then selling them to his customers.

When I talked to JC, he made it very clear to me that there's no money-back guarantee on the group buy, so buy at my own risk!!!  Also, I do not recalled JC making any comments that the "Group Buy" is authorized by Olive. JC is not a modder so he wouldn't have found out that the Olive lies on the specs of the Opus. He trusted his ear and he likes what he hear and he organized a group buy so the little margin he earn is enough to cover his efforts.

To people like me who'd deal with both Anthony and JC, I can tell you that they're two of the most generous people around. They have made peace with each other, so let's leave it as it is, and please don't stir up another fight, especially when you don't know what exactly is going on in the background.

barry

[MauiMods]

Fredgarvin,
Can you back your blatant post?
Every sentence in your post is false.
I stand on concrete proof.
First post states: I picked of a few samples for review and testing.
What is your definition on "several"?
where is my "intent to sell"? Do I Have a "store here"? Do I have a "retail online store"? Or Do I have a "store" period.
Was I ever an Authorized Dealer of Olive? Did I Purchase ANY units From Olive on Dealer OR at a consumer Level? NO 
Think you shot yourself more than just a foot.            

From the very beginning it was clear that Maui had an agenda involving the deal J Castler had set up. He repeatedly has been attacking the "group buy" and also his own loss on the several units he intended to sell. So now he has narrowed his smear from three parties to just Olive. Maybe if he had done that from the start he would be more credible...kinda shot himself in the foot

[MauiMods]

There are two others owners that posted to this thread.
I have talked to one of them yesterday, has a similiar experience of sound the quality I mentioned in my post.
I did sugest he post his take of the sound quality on this thread.
Sure sound quality matters, but for $300 you can get a SB3, with true and honest Specs, that blows the OPUS, out the water!

I don't think two questions have been answered satifactorily in this thread.  What do the new Opus owners think about the sound of their recent acquisition?  How is the sound through the Opus' internal DACs, as most would probably use them?  Is the sound worse through external DACs?  While science and design are VERY important, ultimately, IMHO, it is the sound, and only the sound that matters to me.

[MauiMods]

Regarding: "modded Opus units"
Correction, "modded Musica Units"

In the interest of two-sidedness, here's a verbatim copy of an e-mail exchange I had about this topic with someone else who was curious about the other side of this story:

"I did get to speak to both Robert of Olive and Jeff of Resolution Audio in regards to that posting on audiocircle by Anthony (MauiMods).  I got a different side of the story for them.  Apparently, Anthony was very pissed at Olive because John (VMPS) offered a "group buy" on the Opus at a price that was well below the MSRP.  Anthony was an Olive dealer and wanted to sell modded Opus units.  He had words with Olive, then they removed him from the dealer list and he flipped out.  This happened around the same time that he opened the Opus and discovered that it is a modded Musica/Symphony board... with the Resolution Audio DAC board.  According to Jeff, Anthony is not placing his GND of his scope probe in the correct location and as a result, is getting a poor looking signal.  He is supposedly also not using an active probe, so his probe is loading down the signal.  Anthony's "fix" is to replace an inductor with a short (between two ground planes), but Jeff said if he placed his probe's GND on the other  side of the inductor, he would see that same clean signal."

Perhaps we can give this thread a rest? There's a *real* war going on in the Middle East!

[MauiMods]

tvad4,
YOU MAY WANT TO RETRACT THAT, LIKE YOU DID, TO YOUR OTHER POSTS.
Show me the "store" ?

Do I have a "retail online store"? Or Do I have a "store" period.

Yes you do, as you posted previously on this thread.

http://www.aberdeencomponents.com/

[MauiMods]

From: Jeff Kalt [mailto:jeff@resolutionaudio.com]
Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2006 3:27 PM
To: Aberdeen Components
Subject: Re:


Hi Anthony,

Sorry I pissed you off. Can we still be friends?

Jeff

[Jon L]

Can everyone involved just stop it and take the discussion offline?  This thread is becoming an embarrassment to the audiophile community no matter whose "truth" is more true. 

[MauiMods]

It not an embarrassment to the community!
It is an Asset!
The people of the audiophile community who appreciates the truth, far outweighs the ones who don't.

Can everyone involved just stop it and take the discussion offline?  This thread is becoming an embarrassment to the audiophile community no matter whose "truth" is more true. 

[F-100]

It not an embarrassment to the community!
It is an Asset!
The people of the audiophile community who appreciates the truth, far outweighs the ones who don't.

and the truth shall set you free ... Amen!!! aa

[draco]

Can everyone involved just stop it and take the discussion offline?  This thread is becoming an embarrassment to the audiophile community no matter whose "truth" is more true. 

I was one of the peeps who ordered a Musica through JC's group buy. I was thinking about upgrading to the Opus until reading this forum. It seems to me that it would be fairly easy for Olive to release a statement in response to Anthony. Why haven't they done so (or, at least in a forthright manner). Why would Anthony put his credibility at stake to take on Olive? Personal vendatta? I don't think so - it makes no sense from a business model standpoint. If he's proved false, then his reputation and business suffer.
The DAC (4 vs. 1) is pretty easy to figure out. If Anthony is right about the dac, then Olive is feeding some bulls**t to the public.
So, will a current Opus owner please step up and open up your unit to confirm or deny the DAC issue.
Personally, I think that Anthony is advocating for consumers and the vitroil aimed at him is misplaced. Even more curious are the people who are dismissing his arguments out of hand. Sure, he's a poor speller and over the top in delivery. So what???
It seems to me that he has little to gain and much to lose. That adds credibility in my book. Just my 2 cents.

[PhilNYC]

It seems to me that it would be fairly easy for Olive to release a statement in response to Anthony. Why haven't they done so (or, at least in a forthright manner).

I don't want to speak for Olive here, but I made a promise to myself when I became a dealer that if I was ever in a situation where a customer took an issue with me to an Internet discussion forum, I would adhere to a policy of not debating the issue online.  Quite honestly, if an issue ever rises to the point where someone takes it online with the intention of slamming a company, that company will NEVER benefit from debating it publicly (or even just releasing a statement)...it all just becomes fodder for out-of-context quotes, continued bashing, and in the end, the truth never comes out anyways. 

My suggestion?  If you have already bought an Opus, try it out, and if you decide you don't like it, return it via the 30-day return policy.  If you bought via group-buy with no returns and you don't like it, then put it up on Audiogon or something.  If you've been thinking about buying one, see if you can try before buying, or at a minimum, take advantage of the 30-day return policy.  And in the best case, whether you already own or are thinking about it, you try it, you love it, and you keep it.

To the AC Moderators:  There have been threads on AC far less incindiary than this which have made there way to the Integalactic Wastebin, and members have been kicked out for far less aggressiveness than has been shown here.  I realize that this has been very entertaining for a lot of the folks watching the thread, but shouldn't a line be drawn somewhere? 

[woodsyi]

To the AC Moderators:  There have been threads on AC far less incindiary than this which have made there way to the Integalactic Wastebin, and members have been kicked out for far less aggressiveness than has been shown here.  I realize that this has been very entertaining for a lot of the folks watching the thread, but shouldn't a line be drawn somewhere? 

I don't know Phil,

For the most part, this has been a discussion on an audio product.  There has been no politics or religion involved.  I think the issue could have been handled with more finess but I do want to hear from other owners of Opus.  Heck, I am curious enough to may be buy one off Anthony (better be a firesale price ) to check it out..........

[MauiMods]

Draco,
thx a bunch for your post.
Your real.

I just like to make clear the DAC that is used in a one chip 2 channel dac (right and left channel)  it is classified by Texas instruments Spec sheet as being  a two channel Dac.

Jeff is was trying to justify this is a 4 DAC chip, stating its a 4 dac chip, A dac for each of the - , + , of the left and right channels.  This is FALSE.
and the people at Texas Instruments agreed.

And again Why are the part number grinded on the Dac board?

I want to post a pic of the board here but cant figure out how.
Can someone do this for me if I send them the picture?
just email me direct. at Brdlevel@cox.net
Or i wll post it on one of my sites and provide the link.

Aonther note: NOTHING is wrong with the Musica or Symphony
It is what it is, and is advertised as such.
In other words, when you get it, it wont be a box of chocalates. (A suprise when you bite in to it)

Can everyone involved just stop it and take the discussion offline?  This thread is becoming an embarrassment to the audiophile community no matter whose "truth" is more true. 

I was one of the peeps who ordered a Musica through JC's group buy. I was thinking about upgrading to the Opus until reading this forum. It seems to me that it would be fairly easy for Olive to release a statement in response to Anthony. Why haven't they done so (or, at least in a forthright manner). Why would Anthony put his credibility at stake to take on Olive? Personal vendatta? I don't think so - it makes no sense from a business model standpoint. If he's proved false, then his reputation and business suffer.
The DAC (4 vs. 1) is pretty easy to figure out. If Anthony is right about the dac, then Olive is feeding some bulls**t to the public.
So, will a current Opus owner please step up and open up your unit to confirm or deny the DAC issue.
Personally, I think that Anthony is advocating for consumers and the vitroil aimed at him is misplaced. Even more curious are the people who are dismissing his arguments out of hand. Sure, he's a poor speller and over the top in delivery. So what???
It seems to me that he has little to gain and much to lose. That adds credibility in my book. Just my 2 cents.

[MauiMods]

Phil,
I am not a dealer.
I am not slamming a company.
I am not slamming it entire product line.
The truth lies in the product itself.
There is no hiding that.
The truth is out allready.
A company will never benefit from a product with a number of false information.

I posted allready for people who intrested, make sure you have a return policy, and if you buy direct   from Olive, have Olive waive their restocking fee. They should be there own Judge.

And for the moderators. like I posted allready:
The people of the audiophile community (Audio Circle) who appreciates the truth, far outweighs the ones who don't.

And what is ONE the Goals of the Circle? The Truth.

Phil, by no means this is an attack toward you.
You are considered "real" in my book.

AP

It seems to me that it would be fairly easy for Olive to release a statement in response to Anthony. Why haven't they done so (or, at least in a forthright manner).

I don't want to speak for Olive here, but I made a promise to myself when I became a dealer that if I was ever in a situation where a customer took an issue with me to an Internet discussion forum, I would adhere to a policy of not debating the issue online.  Quite honestly, if an issue ever rises to the point where someone takes it online with the intention of slamming a company, that company will NEVER benefit from debating it publicly (or even just releasing a statement)...it all just becomes fodder for out-of-context quotes, continued bashing, and in the end, the truth never comes out anyways. 

My suggestion?  If you have already bought an Opus, try it out, and if you decide you don't like it, return it via the 30-day return policy.  If you bought via group-buy with no returns and you don't like it, then put it up on Audiogon or something.  If you've been thinking about buying one, see if you can try before buying, or at a minimum, take advantage of the 30-day return policy.  And in the best case, whether you already own or are thinking about it, you try it, you love it, and you keep it.

To the AC Moderators:  There have been threads on AC far less incindiary than this which have made there way to the Integalactic Wastebin, and members have been kicked out for far less aggressiveness than has been shown here.  I realize that this has been very entertaining for a lot of the folks watching the thread, but shouldn't a line be drawn somewhere? 

[MauiMods]

Thank you Woodsyi,
Yes I admit I am abit rough, in typing what I try to express.
Let me rephase that..... I am VERY rough,....
Part of my spelling errors are do to my poor typing skills.
I just mentioned to my wife, for all the year on the puter, you think I can type like a pro.

The fact is I am more of a blue collar type, than an office type of person.
And honestly, I hate typing this up right now. It like a big procedure for me just to make a bad post.

If you would like a OPUS, I will sell them off for $2k each, ONLY to people who are made aware of the shortcomming of the OPUS.
I have told many allready, I would bury them in my Backyard, before I would sell them to my worst enemy.

Nahtonry

To the AC Moderators:  There have been threads on AC far less incindiary than this which have made there way to the Integalactic Wastebin, and members have been kicked out for far less aggressiveness than has been shown here.  I realize that this has been very entertaining for a lot of the folks watching the thread, but shouldn't a line be drawn somewhere? 

I don't know Phil,

For the most part, this has been a discussion on an audio product.  There has been no politics or religion involved.  I think the issue could have been handled with more finess but I do want to hear from other owners of Opus.  Heck, I am curious enough to may be buy one off Anthony (better be a firesale price ) to check it out..........

[F-100]

17 pages of discussion regarding negative finding on their product and Robert of Olive is nowhere to be found to stand up and defend their product. It make me wonder too if they have something to hide and doesn't want the consummer to know. 

[MauiMods]

Tvad,
99% of the products you see, is produts I endorsed or are paid banner advertisments.


I do not sell Pool supplies or rubber duckies.

Micheal Wolf Is manufacture Direct Only.

Bottom line, I do not have a retail WEB store period.  Sites, Yes in fact I own over 25 sites.
I still own Businesses in Long Island NewYork.
Can you find out who they are?


Funny you mentioned that photo. It was taken the day I moved to Vegas from NY. That was the moving truck.

tvad4,
YOU MAY WANT TO RETRACT THAT, LIKE YOU DID, TO YOUR OTHER POSTS.
Show me the "store" ?

Do I have a "retail online store"? Or Do I have a "store" period.

Yes you do, as you posted previously on this thread.

http://www.aberdeencomponents.com/

Your website Aberdeencomponents.com describes the products you sell: Esoteric, Tact Audio, Furutech, DH Labs,  Magnum Dynalab, Michael Wolff. Perhaps I don't understand your definition of an online retail store, but advertising products you represent on a website seems to fit the definition. Futhermore, you list the address of your place of business, which is called Aberdeen Components. Now, perhaps you don't consider your place of business a retail store, but it appears that way from your website. In fact, it appears to be your home (click on Satellite view to see the 18 wheeler parked out front  ).
http://maps.google.com/maps?oi=map&q=6618+Universal+Ave,+Las+Vegas,+NV

Therefore my statement is germain to your comment and I see no reason to retract my post.

[Charles Calkins]

Mr Borg:
 Appears to me that it's time for you to do your thing on this forum.

                                  Cheers
                                  Charlie

[satchmofan]

It seems to me that it would be fairly easy for Olive to release a statement in response to Anthony. Why haven't they done so (or, at least in a forthright manner).

I don't want to speak for Olive here, but I made a promise to myself when I became a dealer that if I was ever in a situation where a customer took an issue with me to an Internet discussion forum, I would adhere to a policy of not debating the issue online.  Quite honestly, if an issue ever rises to the point where someone takes it online with the intention of slamming a company, that company will NEVER benefit from debating it publicly (or even just releasing a statement)...it all just becomes fodder for out-of-context quotes, continued bashing, and in the end, the truth never comes out anyways. 

My suggestion?  If you have already bought an Opus, try it out, and if you decide you don't like it, return it via the 30-day return policy.  If you bought via group-buy with no returns and you don't like it, then put it up on Audiogon or something.  If you've been thinking about buying one, see if you can try before buying, or at a minimum, take advantage of the 30-day return policy.  And in the best case, whether you already own or are thinking about it, you try it, you love it, and you keep it.

To the AC Moderators:  There have been threads on AC far less incindiary than this which have made there way to the Integalactic Wastebin, and members have been kicked out for far less aggressiveness than has been shown here.  I realize that this has been very entertaining for a lot of the folks watching the thread, but shouldn't a line be drawn somewhere? 

Hey phil, I couldn't agree more.  I listened to the opus at a store in San Francisco and they gave me a demo, comparing it to a few CD players in a similar price range. Some of them were better, some of them worse. I liked the audio performance, and that is why I bought it. Considering all the additional features that it offers I think the OPUS is a great deal.  And even if I would not have been satisfied I could still have returned it (you just gotta check the terms with the reseller you buy it from.).