[Danny Richie]

When your speakers do not measure as you say they do (again, as proven above and your words) I'm pretty sure a connector doesn't mean jack.  Get the basics right and consistent first before throwing stones.  If you really did care for actual science you would provide some actual real spec sheets with proper electrical data.  Further, you only want to believe in science when it's of any benefit for you not consistently.  Saying it's better is nothing just like saying 100's of customers buy it...there are many gullible people as you know.   

My speakers measure exactly as I say they do. Even the Klipple measurements from Amir matched mine from 13 years ago. He even recommended them.

And any crossover update that might be made doesn't change any of the parameters.

And I think you are the only one here throwing stones. And it is one thing to try to insult me here and on other forums, but don't insult my customers. If that is all you have left then please don't post in my forum any more.

[jtwrace]

My speakers measure exactly as I say they do. Even the Klipple measurements from Amir matched mine from 13 years ago. He even recommended them.

And any crossover update that might be made doesn't change any of the parameters.

And I think you are the only one here throwing stones. And it is one thing to try to insult me here and on other forums, but don't insult my customers. If that is all you have left then please don't post in my forum any more.

Didn't know you own this forum now.  Interesting. 


It's amusing that you defend your customers whom you take their money for such a product...all while making fun of "flat earthers" of whom do not see it all your way.  That's a bit hypocritical of you. 


Oh, and the speaker does not measure the same as Rick has pointed out here.  Further, you're the same person who a few hours ago who discounted ASR but now you like them?  Can't have it every which way when you want.   

[S Clark]

This needs to end.  Jason, if you don't like a product don't buy it.  Don't go to the vendors site and run down the products.  Hopefully this goes to Quarantine. 

[Danny Richie]

Didn't know you own this forum now.  Interesting. 

I don't have to own the forum to ask you to stop posting here if you are just going to be troublesome.

It's amusing that you defend your customers whom you take their money for such a product

My customers are the best, and the ones that contribute here are golden.

And I couldn't be more proud to offer tube connectors. They sound better than anything else on the market and at less than half the price of the high quality binding posts and spade connector combinations.

And our customers love them.

all while making fun of "flat earthers" of whom do not see it all your way.  That's a bit hypocritical of you.

Oh, we don't call those folks flat earthers because they don't see it all our way. They are called that because they are close minded to anything counter to their beliefs. Actually I think you'd fall into that category.

Oh, and the speaker does not measure the same as Rick has pointed out

Funny, when I designed the latest upgrade I measured the original network and then matched the response with the new network. It was only one cap and resistor adjustment. And yes, they matched really close.

I also provided the measurements that rick posted. One was from 13 years ago and one recent one with the new network. Both are very close. 

Further, you're the same person who a few hours ago who discounted ASR but now you like them?  Can't have it every which way when you want.

Ha, I just pointed out they they liked the speaker because I knew you hated that they liked it. You and many others just wanting to see it picked apart and degraded, but ironically that didn't happen. 

And again, if you nothing positive to contribute then don't post in this circle any more.

[WC]

Wow, Jason was so butt hurt that he contacted the manufacturer to tell them about some guy on a forum.... That's hilarious.   

Okay, first of all, I really like the Neutrik connectors. I just ordered another 50 sets of them this morning. We sell a lot of them too. They are used with our servo sub kits. They are great for that application.

Yes, they just have Brass connections. They are not even Copper. But for our servo subs the differences in materials there is minimal. And it is a four pole connection. So I'd need a complete set of tube connectors for the job if I wanted to go that route. So price wise there is a $9 set of Neutrik connectors or a $59 set of tube connectors.

Now for ranges above 200Hz I can't use the Neutrik connectors. The performance difference between them and the tube connectors becomes way too great. 

And John R nailed it. The Neutrik connectors use steel screws and they are in the signal path. They directly touch the connections and do and will effect the signal and sound.

And lastly some of you guys need to relax.

Screws? Not all Neutrik speakons use screws. The ones I installed only had solder connections for both the panel mount and the plug. These are the STX series ones.

[Cheytak.408]

Neutrik connectors are great when used appropriately.  Speakons are a connector of choice for pro audio applications.  They are rugged, positive in connection and essentially bullet proof.  We used them as the connector of choice for road systems.  You can’t get stupid with a Speakon.

For ultimate fidelity they are not a choice I would make.  For low pass applications where ultimate fidelity is NOT an issue they are fine.  One thing they are not is transparent.  Highs suffer in an audible and somewhat measurable manner.  Viewed through a good DAW the HF degradation is visible.  I wish I had kept screen captures of many things that I simply looked at and thought “Hmmmm, isn’t that interesting!”  I am very familiar with the sonic signature of several different speaker connectors.  I have not heard tube connectors, but will get some in short order just to listen.  This is by-product of this thread.

One thing I know for sure is that there are people that trust “science” more than their own experience.  Odd in a world where the elusive reality is based upon a personal subjective experience.  If it sounds better generally it IS better.  If you don’t understand this I got nuthin’ for you other than maybe you can’t hear.