The thruth about speaker cables...

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Guy 13

Re: The thruth about speaker cables...
« Reply #100 on: 4 Dec 2010, 10:43 am »
Hello folks

The best thing anyone can do for them selves is to develop a cable strategy. Ironically somebody new to the hobby i would not recommend anything but very basic rca's. Only because good cables are expensive and they require experience in their own listening tastes. Somebody new won't know how to develop a cable strategy in their own taste and they may not like mine.  Developing a personal strategy isn't hard but it takes time. The best cable advice you can give anybody is just by talking about your own and hopefully they will pick up on the hobby aspect of it and take it seriously. Unfortunately there are too many people on these boards who troll the whole subject so it's hard to be taken seriously.

But

Speaker cables are the most important cable. They are the last cable in the chain and if they are lousy everything before it will suffer, so why bother?. I think the cable that offers the most significant tweak in sound stage taste is your source to pre connect. This position has the most affect on your source and will generally change up all the bothersome effects cabling can have on your system. This includes hash and noise generating around your source (especially in digital).

gotta love your cabling  :thumb:
Hi.
I don't completely agree with what you wrote, but I won't say that you are wrong. What you wrote make sense, but in a audio system there are links that are more sensitive to noise, interference than other that can degrade the sound. However a system must be well balanced in every link of the system. You don't put Home Depot lawn mower extension wire on a 100,000 USD system, however, I would see a Home Depot wire on a... well lets say : On a 5,000 USD ssytem. Of course, some of you won't agree.
There is also the human factor that come into the equation, not all the ears and brains are the same and process the audio information the same way.
Guy 13

Guy 13

Re: The thruth about speaker cables...
« Reply #101 on: 4 Dec 2010, 11:04 am »
Yes it is possible to pick up radio interference through speaker cables but you have to be near some very strong fields.
Please note this article I wrote some six years ago:
http://www.audioholics.com/education/cables/bulletproofing-your-system-from-interference

Please also note that RF really does not "sneak" it's way in to an amplifier through the feedback loop as the feedback is always referenced to the input.

Regards;
      Dan Banquer
Hi Dan and all Audio Circle members.
I've read tons of articles on interconnects and cables and I came up to this conclusion:
(This is my conclusion, it's well suited for me, if it is for you: Good, if its not good for you, then find your own way of solving your problem.)
One easy way to reduce to almost zero all kind of interferences and not degrade sound quality by too high inductance and capacitance is to keep every wires as short as possible.
Interconnects: Less than 24 to 36"
Speakers cables: Less than 10 feet.
When you need to go more than that, then it becomes important to get better, more expensive wires or take another approach.
My opinion, no need to agree with me and tell me I know nothing or that I support mister so and so...
Guy 13   

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Re: The thruth about speaker cables...
« Reply #102 on: 4 Dec 2010, 12:24 pm »
Hello folks

The best thing anyone can do for them selves is to develop a cable strategy. Ironically somebody new to the hobby i would not recommend anything but very basic rca's. Only because good cables are expensive and they require experience in their own listening tastes. Somebody new won't know how to develop a cable strategy in their own taste and they may not like mine.  Developing a personal strategy isn't hard but it takes time. The best cable advice you can give anybody is just by talking about your own and hopefully they will pick up on the hobby aspect of it and take it seriously. Unfortunately there are too many people on these boards who troll the whole subject so it's hard to be taken seriously.

How do you develop a cable strategy???

Guy 13

Re: The thruth about speaker cables...
« Reply #103 on: 4 Dec 2010, 01:27 pm »
Hi Werd.
<< A cable startegy? >>
What the heck is a cable startegy? Sounds like something to do with the preparation of an attack against the ennemi? Who's the ennemy? The cables?
I think the cables should be our fiends as we need them to enjoy our audio system. (Ha, ha...)
Guy 13
No joke, what is a cable strategy? I am sure I am not the only Audio Circle member that heard for the first time that expression.

Danny Richie

Re: The thruth about speaker cables...
« Reply #104 on: 4 Dec 2010, 04:07 pm »
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Guy 13
AKA: A satisfied customer among your thousand of satisfied customers, well, maybe not thousands, but hundreds...


Nope, it's thousands. How many, I am not sure. I know that many years ago I had some inexpensive binding post cups made with the GR logo in them. They were sold mostly with my A/V series kits. I have now since gone through all of them. I had 5,000 of them made.  :green: Thanks everybody!

mort

Re: The thruth about speaker cables...
« Reply #105 on: 4 Dec 2010, 07:54 pm »
Count me in also!

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Re: The thruth about speaker cables...
« Reply #106 on: 6 Dec 2010, 04:32 pm »
Please also note that RF really does not "sneak" it's way in to an amplifier through the feedback loop as the feedback is always referenced to the input.

Regards;
      Dan Banquer
The input differential pair gains the error between them.  Them poor wittle bases or gates might not be too happy with an RF intrusion.

Cheers, John