Starting a CAPS v3 build

randytsuch · « **on:** 13 Dec 2013, 11:07 pm »

A few days ago I decided I wanted to build a CAPS v3, based on the Topanga version.

I may upgrade it in the future, but figured I would start with the low end model and work my way up as budget and time allow.

Made my first purchase today, bought a Samsung 840EVO 256GB SSD today from my local Frys.
http://www.frys.com/product/7796538?site=sa:adpages%20page:P7_FRI%20date:121313

I could have bought it cheaper from B&H, but I like to support local stores when possible, and also like instant gratification.

So far, that's how I am with this build

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Next step is probably to buy Win 8, and then the MB and case and PS from Logic and I can start assembling.

Planning to put the music I usually listen to on the SSD, and will maybe hook up a sata hard drive to expand. Decided against NAS for now.

Randy

randytsuch · « **Reply #1 on:** 17 Dec 2013, 08:15 pm »

So I’ve run into my normal problem, too much research

After deciding to try a CAPS V3, I started looking at using Server 2012 as the OS running on a Xeon processor and MB. This is more money, which would delay this project.

So I am currently considering using a Xeon compatible MB, but using a cheap Celeron process to save some money. Could upgrade the processor later if I feel the need.

I also started looking at heatsink options. I wanted to go passive, but am now leaning towards a low profile active heatsink, probably a Scythe one. I should be able to lower the fan speed enough to make it silent.

Randy

dminches · « **Reply #2 on:** 17 Dec 2013, 08:44 pm »

What chassis/case are you planning on using? Many of them do a very good job of cooling so that a fan-based cooler isn't needed.

randytsuch · « **Reply #3 on:** 17 Dec 2013, 09:12 pm »

Quote from: dminches on 17 Dec 2013, 08:44 pm

What chassis/case are you planning on using? Many of them do a very good job of cooling so that a fan-based cooler isn't needed.

So I could go fanless with something like this
http://www.quietpcusa.com/Streacom-FC8-EVO-Fanless-Home-Theater-Aluminum-Chassis-P1014.aspx

and I saw some Akasa cases that look nice, but I was wondering if they are too small.

I would like to be able to fit a couple SSD drives, or maybe one SSD drive and one CF card with an adapter.

I also plan to get the Paul Pang PCIE USB card at some point, so I need room for that too.

If I go active heatsinking, was just going to use the CAPS recommended case.

Randy

dminches · « **Reply #4 on:** 17 Dec 2013, 09:16 pm »

That will work with the Intel S1200 mobo.

This is what I will be building:

Xeon Music Server
Intel S1200KPR Server Motherboard - Socket H2 LGA-1155
Intel Xeon E3-1265LV2 2.50 GHz Processor - Socket H2 LGA-1155
2GB, 240-PIN Dimm, DDR3 PC3-85 - CT25672BA1067
Streacom FC8 Evo
PPA picoPSU 160 W
Paul Pang USB v2.0
Corsair Force Series GS CSSD-F128GBGS
Win Server 2012 R2

randytsuch · « **Reply #5 on:** 17 Dec 2013, 09:30 pm »

Quote from: dminches on 17 Dec 2013, 09:16 pm

That will work with the Intel S1200 mobo.

This is what I will be building:

Xeon Music Server
Intel S1200KPR Server Motherboard - Socket H2 LGA-1155
Intel Xeon E3-1265LV2 2.50 GHz Processor - Socket H2 LGA-1155
2GB, 240-PIN Dimm, DDR3 PC3-85 - CT25672BA1067
Streacom FC8 Evo
PPA picoPSU 160 W
Paul Pang USB v2.0
Corsair Force Series GS CSSD-F128GBGS
Win Server 2012 R2

Thanks for the info.

I was planning to use the same MB.
Not sure about the RAM yet, I was looking at that.

I was wondering if people think the processor makes a difference in the sound?

I was looking at an inexpensive, low power Celeron figuring it would have enough hp to do what I need for this machine.

Rnady

dminches · « **Reply #6 on:** 17 Dec 2013, 09:42 pm »

I think Phil (and others) have said that the Xeon chip sounds better because of its extremely low latency.

randytsuch · « **Reply #7 on:** 17 Dec 2013, 09:52 pm »

Quote from: dminches on 17 Dec 2013, 09:42 pm

I think Phil (and others) have said that the Xeon chip sounds better because of its extremely low latency.

OK, so maybe I do that later, but I don't have $300 for a Xeon right now.

And I guess they picked that Xeon because it has the lowest power consumption.

Randy

randytsuch · « **Reply #8 on:** 18 Dec 2013, 12:25 am »

So I just bought a "not perfect" Streacom FC8 evo chassis so I guess I'm going fanless.

Looks like a pretty nice solution, has heat pipes to conduct the heat from the processor to the chassis.

Two pieces down, many more to go

Randy

dminches · « **Reply #9 on:** 18 Dec 2013, 12:25 am »

Where did you get the case?

randytsuch · « **Reply #10 on:** 18 Dec 2013, 12:33 am »

Quote from: dminches on 18 Dec 2013, 12:25 am

Where did you get the case?

http://shop.perfecthometheater.com/Streacom-specials-and-deals_c54.htm

But it looks like they just had one, its OOS now

Randy

Nick77 · « **Reply #11 on:** 18 Dec 2013, 12:41 am »

Starting a build also, just going budget with Intel DN2800MTE board. Also have a PPA V2 card on the way.

randytsuch · « **Reply #12 on:** 18 Dec 2013, 01:19 am »

Quote from: Nick77 on 18 Dec 2013, 12:41 am

Starting a build also, just going budget with Intel DN2800MTE board. Also have a PPA V2 card on the way.

Which version are you building?

WGH · « **Reply #13 on:** 18 Dec 2013, 01:59 am »

Quote from: Nick77 on 18 Dec 2013, 12:41 am

Also have a PPA V2 card on the way.

What are you using for the 5V linear power supply? I picked up an Acopian 5EB200 for $20 shipped on eBay.

And don't forget about the PCI-E 1X Slot Riser Card Extender Flexible Extension Flex Ribbon Cable, none in my town so I had to order one.

There was a 90 degree cable in China for $9 but it is gone now.

Nick77 · « **Reply #14 on:** 18 Dec 2013, 09:44 am »

I guess im building a variant of the Topanga or Lagoon with PPA USB card and M350 case.

WGH, thanks for the heads up. I will get one with the motherboard order. Plan to use RavPower battery charging cell with USB cable I bought from Paul. Hope I wont be searching for an Acopian.

randytsuch · « **Reply #15 on:** 18 Dec 2013, 02:05 pm »

For the PCI extension card, I would use the first one in the link below, if it doesn't interfere with anything in your PC.
A short board won't mess the PCIE signal up as much as the board with the longer cable.
http://www.logicsupply.com/components/riser-cards/pci-express-risers/

And for those interested, the PPA card is here
http://ppaproduct.blogspot.tw/2013/07/audio-grade-usb-30-pcie-card.html

His stuff appears to get good feedback, and seems to be good bang for the buck.

Randy

dminches · « **Reply #16 on:** 18 Dec 2013, 02:12 pm »

Randy, can't you also just use a ribbon cable? That's what I did with my FC-10 build. The bracket attaches to the case and the ribbon cable connects the card to the mobo.

shadowlight · « **Reply #17 on:** 18 Dec 2013, 03:29 pm »

Is it just me or is the PHT fanless chassis look the same as Streacom chassis?

http://shop.perfecthometheater.com/FLM-8-Black-Fan-Less-Mini-PC-HTPC-aluminum-chassis-FLM-8-Black.htm

dminches · « **Reply #18 on:** 18 Dec 2013, 03:40 pm »

I have asked them twice if it is just a rebranded Streacom case. I haven't gotten a straight answer.

The specs and look are identical.

chip · « **Reply #19 on:** 18 Dec 2013, 07:59 pm »

Looks like this board is getting hard to find - Intel DN2800MT. What are options for something similiar?