Introducing WyWires...

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Re: Introducing WyWires...
« Reply #160 on: 30 Jul 2010, 02:43 am »
Alex -

Send me address of the next person, or do I return them back to you?

I'll post my review tomorrow, too tired right now to finish.

Executive summary - I liked them a lot.

Gene

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Re: Introducing WyWires...
« Reply #161 on: 31 Jul 2010, 05:23 pm »
So I've been uncharacteristically quiet with my impressions of the speaker cables as they require a lot more burn in then the ICs.  Say what you will (that it was my ears burning in or the wire) but I'm appreciating them a heck of a lot more now and most of the burn in time I was NOT present for.

Now that we've got some hours on them, things are perking up in a big way.  I'm getting a very holographic presentation with an extremely low noise floor (interestingly, A/Bing these cables it seems to me that the volume overall is a little lower).  Tone is spot on, resolution is wonderful and music is just very enjoyable overall. 

I was previously noting a little bit of discontinuity in the mids, most notably that it seemed a touch recessed in comparison to what I was hearing on top and bottom, but it seems resolved and I'm being greeted with a well balanced, harmonically developed presentation now.  Bass extension and impact is awesome with these cables in place and things are definitely gelling well so far.

The speaker cables are still a little laid back in nature, but I know others have found this change a bit with continued use.  Either way, they aren't slow or dead sounding, they sound great! 

Having the Wywire treatment in my system has been a wonderful thing.  I doubt I'll ever be able to afford to better them, and I'm not sure I'd ever care to.  I am getting an honest feeling that they're allowing me to harness the best of what my mid-priced hi-fi can offer and thats been perspective changing for me.

It is hard to maintain ones credibility gushing equally with every addition of a cable into their system and I really do think people need to try this product for themselves, but I will say that every layer I have added to the equation has been a meaningful upgrade for me. 

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Re: Introducing WyWires...
« Reply #162 on: 31 Jul 2010, 11:28 pm »
Hi all.  First things first, I'm far from an authoritative audiophile, I've heard very few different systems and my room isn't done yet (but I'm having a lot of fun planning it).  I have managed to try out a few sets of speaker cables though, ranging in list price from about $300 to $1300.  Well, I managed to make the time to put a pair of WyWires in my system this afternoon and listen for a brief period (no burn-in ...... not sure if that makes a difference or not).  First, my system:

MacBook->optical cable->Buffalo DAC->KCI Silkworm->Parasound JC2->KCI Silkworm->Atma Sphere MA1->speaker cables->AudioKinesis Dream Makers->room (awful)->my ears (inexperienced)

My impressions?  I don't find I can wax eloquently with audiophile words (and my mind might just be fooling me into liking my new toys or liking the cables because Alex was such a gentleman to deal with) but I found them lacking nothing and slightly more resolving (which I like) than the other cables I've tried.  Each individual sound just seemed to be more distinct from the others and the more pronounced sounds seemed to jump out of the speakers that much more.  I can't say there was a lot in it, and that might be due to lack of "burn-in", but my mind managed to convince me that the WyWires were my favourite.

Cheers
Will

p.s. oh, and one other thing - they are MUCH more easy to handle and flexible than any of the other speaker cables I've tried, which to me is a very welcome change. 

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Re: Introducing WyWires...
« Reply #163 on: 31 Jul 2010, 11:42 pm »
Hi will2


I like your system, how did you pick it?

Will2

Re: Introducing WyWires...
« Reply #164 on: 31 Jul 2010, 11:51 pm »
Hi will2


I like your system, how did you pick it?

Thanks.  So do I  :D.  I picked each item after doing a lot of reading and coupling that with some sage guidance from Zybar.  I have to say that I have been in touch personally with the manufacturer of every item I own and every time it has been a real pleasure.  You will notice most of it is from manufacturers who sell consumer-direct (or whose product sells used for consumer-direct type pricing) - I like that model.   

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« Reply #165 on: 2 Aug 2010, 06:14 pm »
This is also posted in the Cable reviews.
The below comments are both with the WyWires Interconnects and Speaker Cables.

Now come the WyWire Speaker Cables last week.
Alex had screw down mechanical type banana ends on these. Although very good finished nicely too, he thought they may be holding things back. He and I both like soldered ends. So I soldered the very good and not very expensive banana ends Take Five audio sells. These fit perfect with even pressure and more contact area. More of the same comments that were expressed on the Interconnects they compliment each other. Did you expect anything else?

After soldering on the new ends there still seemed to be very little
aggressiveness, I will call it.
I threw the cables back on the cooker for another 12 hours last evening.
Total of 3 1/2 days break-in on the cooker now on these. Amazing, and superb were my thoughts. How much better does it get?

As usual I like albums and artists that have that big band backup. This time it is Jane Monheit, Taking a Chance on Love, and The Best of Elaine Elias, you can hear the pads on the piano hammers hitting the strings. Excellent, I have no criticisms at all now. Any aggressiveness is gone. Background detail, not necessarily depth is presented naturally and is all there. Snare drums (especially), the top crown on cymbals, brushes, triangles all presented enhanced like I have never heard before. Again, the down beat stops, and slam from the up beat afterwords are real, Mindy Abair again. Snare drums usually sound like garbage cans on many albums. I'm finding out that it isn't always the recording. In fact, most of the time it is not. The combination of the two, the interconnects and these speaker cables are very involving with large amounts of "goose bump" factor.

My phono is enhanced by the speaker cables. I use Home Grown Audio solid silver between the Nova Phenomena and the Pathos. Very good. This is a tri brade solid core silver that some people supposedly who know everything about cables here said is the worst possible design. Won't mention names.

I cannot compliment the Wywires more highly, and thank Alex for the opportunity to hear these. Just excellent, enlightened, and very much recommended.
They are that good.

Den N.



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Re: Introducing WyWires...
« Reply #166 on: 12 Aug 2010, 09:24 pm »

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Re: Introducing WyWires...
« Reply #167 on: 14 Aug 2010, 02:46 pm »
I was away on vacation for a week and during the time I was gone, I'd sent of my Wywires to Bacobits to "cook". 

When I returned from vacation, the cables hadn't arrived back yet which gave me two days to listen to my rig with what I had left of my old cables in place.  With Grover UR speaker cable, Magwire between my pre and amp and a MAC Velvet on my DAC, things did NOT sound right--even after the considerable break. 

Usually when I take a break from high end equipment and then fire it up (as opposed to listening every day for hours) the 'wow' factor comes back, but I just wasn't feeling it.  In fact, I was actually exchanging messages with another forumer about what I was feeling.

"In any event, my system sounds very different than I recall without the Wywire in place.  I don't know if its a self fulfilling psychological prophecy or what, but my stage is kinda flat and I've certainly lost my ultra coherence.  The detail is there, its just blurred.  I feel like I've lost so much bass definition as well...  Strange.

Can't wait to re-assemble the rig properly tomorrow."

and then.

"Wow, I don't think this is imagined--my system is sounding lifeless and completely unengaging right now.  Its 9pm and I think I've had enough for the night..."

That said, with the Wywires back in place as a system, my rig is making music again.  I've got my harmonically developed but nimble, emotionally engaging sound back. 

I wish I could proclaim I had an epiphany with the cooked cables, but auditory memory is flawed and I really can't attest to it.  That said, I absolutely heard a huge difference between my system with all Wywire vs. what I had on hand.  It was a neat experience to take a break and then validate my prior findings. 

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Re: Introducing WyWires...
« Reply #168 on: 14 Aug 2010, 05:31 pm »
Early in this beta test I shared with another member "how cool would it be to have all WyWires in our systems"...well today the postman brought me a box with another set of interconnects and my current setup has all WyWires from my DAC/Pre through my tube buffer and onto my speakers. I don't know what the process is or what they are made of but I do know that Alex most definitely knows how to make cables.

 I've been listening all morning to "Fourplay" in anticipation of the new cables arriving so I would have a good feel for my setup and how it would change and if it would change. The answer is it sounds better now than earlier today, I have noticed more definition in the lower frequencies, more detail without being more detailed..its like an added presence. The music is ever so slightly more dynamic and engaging, the likes of which I didn't really think was possible but I know what I'm hearing and it is all good, all good from top to bottom, I highly recommend these cables and encourage you guys to try them. I might be new to this hobby and get a little over the top, if so please excuse me, but these cables make a difference and its all positive from where I'm sitting. Thanks again Alex! :dance:

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Re: Introducing WyWires...
« Reply #169 on: 14 Aug 2010, 08:11 pm »
Hey Alex - having enjoyed you IC between my cdp and pre, I'm now curious what is unique about you ic for pre to amp?

Does it differ for all SS, SS and tube and all tube?

Gene

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Re: Introducing WyWires...
« Reply #170 on: 14 Aug 2010, 08:16 pm »
Hey Alex - having enjoyed you IC between my cdp and pre, I'm now curious what is unique about you ic for pre to amp?

Does it differ for all SS, SS and tube and all tube?

Gene

Very different cable for active pre to power amp. Designed to handle more gain and longer length common in this application. No difference for SS, tube, hybrid, etc.

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Re: Introducing WyWires...
« Reply #171 on: 14 Aug 2010, 08:18 pm »
Alex im curious if you or Lee can discuss what benifits cryo treatment bring to the table with your WyWires that are available from Cryoparts.

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Re: Introducing WyWires...
« Reply #172 on: 14 Aug 2010, 08:29 pm »
Alex im curious if you or Lee can discuss what benifits cryo treatment bring to the table with your WyWires that is available from Cryoparts.

Lee is a better one to address that question. His WyWires were cryo'd in the last day or two and I'm waiting for Lee to describe the changes.

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« Reply #173 on: 14 Aug 2010, 08:49 pm »
Lee is a better one to address that question. His WyWires were cryo'd in the last day or two and I'm waiting for Lee to describe the changes.

I cryo'd them a little over two weeks ago, put them on the Cooker for four days, then inserted them in one of my systems to let them run in further and settle.  I listened briefly to be sure all was well, but not critically, so any comments at this point would be premature. 

My plan was to do some critical listening this week, but I have been down with some kind of stomach thing, and have only worked "here and there" shipping stuff out.  Hopefully, after mandated bed rest this weekend, I'll feel well enough that I'll be able to get caught up early next week and then be able to take some time to do some critical listening.

Peace,

Lee

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Re: Introducing WyWires...
« Reply #174 on: 14 Aug 2010, 10:08 pm »
I cryo'd them a little over two weeks ago, put them on the Cooker for four days, then inserted them in one of my systems to let them run in further and settle.  I listened briefly to be sure all was well, but not critically, so any comments at this point would be premature. 

My plan was to do some critical listening this week, but I have been down with some kind of stomach thing, and have only worked "here and there" shipping stuff out.  Hopefully, after mandated bed rest this weekend, I'll feel well enough that I'll be able to get caught up early next week and then be able to take some time to do some critical listening.

Peace,

Lee

Hello Lee

What do you think of cables on their own with out cryo?

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Re: Introducing WyWires...
« Reply #175 on: 14 Aug 2010, 10:10 pm »
Hello Lee

What do you think of cables on their own with out cryo?

Since he sells them, I'd think he will say they're great. 

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« Reply #176 on: 14 Aug 2010, 10:16 pm »
Since he sells them, I'd think he will say they're great.

Is this really necessary?

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« Reply #177 on: 14 Aug 2010, 10:21 pm »
Is this really necessary?

I didn't mean it in a bad way.  I'm sorry if you take offense by it but lets be honest, It's true!   :thumb:  I wouldn't think he would sell something that he didn't like as that would be dishonest IMO.

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Re: Introducing WyWires...
« Reply #178 on: 14 Aug 2010, 10:23 pm »
I didn't mean it in a bad way.  I'm sorry if you take offense by it but lets be honest, It's true!   :thumb:  I wouldn't think he would sell something that he didn't like as that would be dishonest IMO.

I can dig that. I just would like to know how they sound to him.

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Re: Introducing WyWires...
« Reply #179 on: 14 Aug 2010, 10:24 pm »
Agreed...