Vegas Dave's right afterall - who'ed a thunk it!

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Vegas Dave's right afterall - who'ed a thunk it!
« on: 22 Nov 2009, 05:19 pm »
Hi Guys,

I did a Bryston night in London Ontario at our dealers there on Friday and we used a new pair of Tannoy speakers - the dual concentric with another 8 inch support woofer... I think - man it was just superb in a fairly large 22x18 room.

I will find out from the rep what model it was?

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Re: Vegas Dave's right afterall - who'ed a thunk it!
« Reply #1 on: 22 Nov 2009, 05:27 pm »


Tannoy DC8T?

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« Reply #2 on: 22 Nov 2009, 05:44 pm »
thats it! - thanks Hififreak :D

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« Reply #3 on: 22 Nov 2009, 06:01 pm »
i really like that input about different speakers!

cool.


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« Reply #4 on: 22 Nov 2009, 06:14 pm »
 James,ever use Legacy speakers in your product evals?

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« Reply #5 on: 22 Nov 2009, 06:15 pm »
James,ever use Legacy speakers in your product evals?

Hi,

I can't say I have although I hear good things about them.

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« Reply #6 on: 23 Nov 2009, 11:26 pm »
Gee, thanks! That particular Tannoy series caught my interest immediately. It's good to know it sounds great and in tandem with Bryston equipment.

Next time try the DC10Ts.


What was the rest of the system may I ask?

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« Reply #7 on: 24 Nov 2009, 12:08 am »
Gee, thanks! That particular Tannoy series caught my interest immediately. It's good to know it sounds great and in tandem with Bryston equipment.

Next time try the DC10Ts.


What was the rest of the system may I ask?

Hi Dave,


BP26/MPS2 / 4B SST2 / BDA-1 / BCD-1 and My computer from home for the hi-res files.

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« Reply #8 on: 24 Nov 2009, 08:14 pm »
Very nice, James. I wish I had that setup! Well, mine is kinda close...

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« Reply #9 on: 20 Dec 2009, 12:06 pm »
Hi Folks,

I have ordered the Tannoy DC8T - they will be 'hear' Tuesday - looking forward to how they will sound in my room!


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« Reply #10 on: 20 Dec 2009, 01:32 pm »
Ah!

Now were talking...............

Tannoy - My entire system drove Tannoy speakers until very recently (when I went to PMC)

My cinema room ran the "Definition Series" - Without question the very best Tannoy ever made for cinema. The down side was that they did not produce a matching Sub, And that the Center ch was sold to dealers in pairs !!!

The center speaker is on of the most accurate I have ever tested (For a cone driver)

My system also had the Supertweeter on every channel....

So the complete Tannoy system was

4 x D700
1 x D750
5 x ST200
(2 x Rel Stentor III & 2 x REL Storm subs)

I have kept this system just in case I was not happy with the PMC MB2 replacement, Thats how high I rate the Tannoys (For those that love PMC)

Tannoy then went on to the TD8,10,12 series - BUT for a cinema room speaker WHY WHY WHY the massive CHROME edge trims! That light just shines off........WHAT A SILLY IDEA !!! and YES I told them so !!! In fact they were building a complete TD10 + Sub system in a special finish for me, then pulled out at the last minute..........I think they realised their own colour scheme was POOR.... Also their Sub has a sloped top to it, so the concept of single point source was KILLED by their own design...You could NEVER stack a TD10 on top of the Sub unit...........SAD but I think looks killed that range andI like many other Tannoy fans put this range behind the previous version......

Which do I prefer..........

£25,000 for PMC vs £7,000 for Tannoy (original new prices)

Value for money = TANNOY
BASS = PMC, more depth
Vocal = Tannoy you just cant beat that single point source concept

Overall PMC will stay, But I will always miss the Tannoy, in this case it was more than just audio quality that I had to give thought to, I have kept the Tannoy but will sell them in the new year........


Tannoy Black,Red,Silver and Gold series are known the world over, If you can get the 10" version then you have the best driver they ever built, the 15 is very much sort after but for the worng reasons extended bass but with loss of mid response......

Now the current top of the line is the Westminster Royal at about £15,000 a pair, If you want  pair buy an old pair, not the newer POOR quality cabinets which is a real shame......

Now there have been many suggestions about the "best" driver configuration.......

check the B&W 800 (NOT 801!), PMC MB2XBD,  Tannoy Buckingham

NOT 15" bass.......

SO guess what speakers I had in my 2ch system TANNOY BUCKINGHAMS, built in 1978 and replaced by me with PMC BB5........

Again I have kept the Tannoys, These are the BEST speaker Tannoy ever made and again I prefer the mids on these to the BB5........

So James enjoy your Tannoy  :D

(I also have two pairs of B&W DM70 / SONY SS8000 for those that know what they are........)

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« Reply #11 on: 20 Dec 2009, 01:41 pm »
Hi Mr. H

Have you heard the DC-8T or the DC-10T.

I was thinking about getting the 10T but then thought the voice quality which really impresssed me at the dealer show would suffer? Also I have the Thiel SS1 subs which I will try to mate with the Tannoy's.

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« Reply #12 on: 20 Dec 2009, 03:59 pm »
Hi, Heard - Yes but not in fair test conditions.......

From a technical "all things equal" perspective I would have gone with the 8 as well.

But in this case could I draw your attention to the specs of the 8" and 10".

Usually in a close range similar cross overs are used, cost & design time being factors to consider.

In the case of the DC8T or DC10T there is much more to consider and all things are not equal.........

See what you think on my following thoughts......

The DC10T is more sensitive 92dB vs 89dB - Thats back to the classic sort after 10" Tannoy, and so will reveal greater detail.

Check out the cross over frequency for the HF driver - 1.5KHz in the 8 and 1.4KHz in the 10, and 250Hz in the 8 and 200Hz in the 10

For me this means the 10 has a better response for male/female vocal content from ONE driver, female vocal is usually clear the male vocal often more difficult to seperate from the rest of the mix at low frequencies.......

AND Tannoy have been clever to run the HF from a fairly low frequency but high enough to be out of the vocal range, Keeping the mid driver to these ranges in my opinion maintains excellent vocal response from either the 8 or 10 in this series...........

My money would be on the 10 series  :wink:

I had the entire range of the previous "definition" series from the D100,300,500,700,750 - I never owned the D900 but heard them.....the D900 was the twin 12" whch they appear to have removed from the DC8 / DC10 series.

I agree with the removal of the twin 12 in this series as I did feel that version did slightly muddy the vocal content - Still excellent, but the 8/10 was better.

My money on the 10" , NOT because its the biggest in the range but I feel the better version.

Happy to hear and accept different opinions on this.

I also prefered the Dimension TD10 in the 8/10/12 range but considered the definition to be the better series (as do many Tannoy owners).


Andy H.


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« Reply #13 on: 20 Dec 2009, 10:01 pm »
Ok thanks for that- I will try the 8 in my room and if it works well will then try the 10.
Gee's you guys are costing me a lot of money!

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« Reply #14 on: 20 Dec 2009, 10:20 pm »
I personally would go for the 10s. Why? I like bigger drivers, and again, the Tannoys are pretty efficient so there's no problem driving them. And I agree with what Mad Mr. H said.

Costing you a lot of money? Well, I bet the rewards outweigh everyting else. Congrats on your new speakers!

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Re: Vegas Dave's right afterall - who'ed a thunk it!
« Reply #15 on: 22 Dec 2009, 06:15 pm »
Tannoy's are 'hear'





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« Reply #16 on: 22 Dec 2009, 06:35 pm »
I want to move in.Are you looking for a new son?

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« Reply #17 on: 22 Dec 2009, 07:04 pm »
Hi james

Wondering who makes those nice stands you have your amps on?Price perhaps?

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« Reply #18 on: 22 Dec 2009, 08:42 pm »
...wondering what you have to say about 'em.



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« Reply #19 on: 22 Dec 2009, 09:13 pm »
Hi james

Wondering who makes those nice stands you have your amps on?Price perhaps?

They look like Solid Tech. They have them here: http://www.audioadvisor.com/prodinfo.asp?number=SOREF3