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I find it helpful to poll those with more experience then me on the subject. If I rely solely on what I think may or not be happening, I may miss out on valuable insight, no?
If I rely solely on what I think may or not be happening, I may miss out on valuable insight, no?
So don't rely on what you think.
Maybe we've both had a Vulcan Mind Probe , but back to the break-in theory, my Martin Logans where great right out of the box. The Paradigms were good too, but they some how seemed to mellow out more. They sure can image.I suppose one can hypothesize that the surrounds needed some time to loosen up (or in the case of the mid bass/woofers, the surrounds and spiders. Those are concepts I can warm up to.Wayner
Some of this is not electrical engineering, more like voo-doo.
Hey AC friends. I'm back with more pesky noobishness .So, I have theimpression that my speakers are sounding better as time goes on. They are about 6 weeks old now, and I've been listening a lot. Specifically, I feel like the low mids/ high bass are filling in better now. When I first got them, it sounded like there was a big null in the 100-200 Hz range (just a guess). The highs seem a bit more tamed as well, maybe partially as a result of more mids in the sound?Am I just getting used to the sound, or is something happening with the speakers, as in 'break-in'. Is it a real phenomenon? What have been your experiences? What about 'burn-in' with components? Is this real? How is it possible?
If we can't rely on what we think, should we rely on what someone else thinks?If we are fairly knowledgeable in a particular field, should we not cling to the sciences that we know?A man who stands for nothing will fall for anything.Wayner
Here is something I have observed and do not understand. When dealing with computer playback of wave files the various media players sound different from one another. Some are obviously better sounding than others. Supposedly they are all feeding a bit perfect PCM data stream to the DAC but they sound different. The best sounding arrangement I have put together so far is eeeBuntu running Rythymbox fed from a flash drive. Go figure. I agree,according to what we"know" many things which can't matter and should not affect the sound of our electronics and systems still have an audible impact of what we hear. The more competent audio designers still listen to what they have put together before it goes out the door.Scotty
When I get the new speakers from Dennis and Jim, then I may be able to give some personal input on this.Until then, I am humbled.But then I already mentioned what I probably don't know.James
Here are a couple of links to some useful information. http://www.gr-research.com/burnin.htm http://www.gr-research.com/myths.htm Scotty
So it is clear to me that capacitors are "moving" parts (as are all electrical parts, but capacitors are somewhat unique in their movement pattern) and clearly subject to the laws of physics in ways that are much closer to large scale objects than we often assume.
I would love to see how some of the guys who claim to hear speakers or caps "blooming" after 200 hours would do in a blind scientific test. If you can detect slight differences "at 150hz" that are a result of your speakers breaking in after hubdreds of hours of break in, you are truly gifted...or Possibly delusional. ... Check out 99% of the posts from guys who have replaced their caps with mega $$$ fancy caps. They almost always hear improvements including the "veil" bring lifted from their speakers, liquid kids, better bass, etc. The voodoo in audio-land is only eclipsed by the doodoo. I don't know if he has changed his opinion, but I recall Dennis Murphy, a guy I respect and admire, not buying into the fancy cap BS. Also, I'd like to know Frank Van Alstine's opinion on break in of caps and much of the popular audio-land hocus pocus. These guys design great sounding audio gear and I don't recall either of them drinking any of the audiofool voodoo Kool aid. Neeko, if you are looking for bogus claims and snake oil, you don't have to look very far in audiofool land. Thankfully, there are still some people who don't subscribe to the BS. CheersJ