Who do you like on trumpet?

CSI · « **Reply #140 on:** 28 May 2011, 05:05 pm »

I came across this fascinating string a bit late but after a lifetime of listening to jazz I have to weigh in. Lots of good choices here, along with passionate put downs and equally passionate defenses. Also some nice lists of people I've never heard but will now seek out. I've always liked a number of the top guys listed (Miles, Dizzy) and passed on some of the others (Wynton) for the same reasons listed by others. One fine player from back in the day that I don't think was mentioned was Blue Mitchell.

As for the greatest of them all? I guess you could start (and stop) with Louis Armstrong. But the more reasonable thing is to pick one or two who I go back to constantly - for their technical ability, passion, musicality and mostly for the sheer joy of listening to them. For me, it's mostly two guys - Chet Baker who, like the early Miles, emulated the human voice through his horn, and the trumpeter who left us a tragically brief but intense body of work: Clifford Brown. If I was exiled to that proverbial desert island with the music of just one person it would have to be Brownie.

mairzydoats · « **Reply #141 on:** 28 May 2011, 06:11 pm »

Clifford Brown atop my list too, and many as good in their own right who didn't have the name recognition. Trumpeters in the bands of Ellington, Basie, Gillespie, and other big band trumpeters who often played in relative obscurity as sidemen in Gil Evans/Miles productions to name a few.Thad Jones and Fats Navarro where right up there, and one might care to differentiate the better trumpeters from the better trumpeters WHO ALSO were very good composers. In modern times Jazz trumpeter Terence Blanchard is pretty darn good. Try his "Jazz in Film." I love classical as much or more than Jazz and there are classical trumpeters who are just fantastic - checkout the young Wolfgang Bauer.

How 'bout we start a thread on "who do you like on alto sax"? I'll go first - Johnny Hodges.

neobop · « **Reply #142 on:** 2 Jun 2011, 12:02 pm »

Found some nice Conte Candoli videos

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EFC90H_uu7w

neobop · « **Reply #143 on:** 2 Jun 2011, 12:15 pm »

Shorty

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJyJlVvPAII&feature=related

jimdgoulding · « **Reply #144 on:** 2 Jun 2011, 01:05 pm »

Quote from: neobop on 2 Jun 2011, 12:02 pm

Found some nice Conte Candoli videos

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EFC90H_uu7w

Love that group to the man, no pun intended. Got two of their albums one of which, Checkmate (music by Johnny Williams from the TV series), is so . . . I can't tell you how good it is!

jazzster · « **Reply #145 on:** 17 Sep 2011, 02:56 am »

Don't think I've read anyone mentioned Carmell Jones. Just fantastic!

lazydays · « **Reply #146 on:** 19 Sep 2011, 05:16 pm »

Quote from: richidoo on 14 May 2011, 03:57 am

"When you haven't practiced for a day, you know it. When you haven't practiced for two days, everybody knows it." - ancient trumpeters parable

Miles idolized Dizzy, but could never come close to his technique. As soon as he could get away with it he stopped trying. By the late 50s he was a stylist, not a trumpet virtuoso, and he was very successful. His thing was being the star and leading the band, and emitting a strong personal presence live and on record. After Bird he didn't need to practice until he got with Herbie, when his playing advanced again, but once he learned the tunes that was it. There was never any clever fingering or trumpet innovation from Miles. But he would practice chops before he had to play for Dizzy, even into the 80s.

I just got to disagree with the entire post! Dizzy was a great tumpet player to say the least, but the best? Nop, not in my book. Armstrong in his time was the best. Chet baker in his style was the best. Miles could do it all, and do it right. Dizzy played loud and strong, but that's the end of that. The one thing Dizzy did better than 99.99% of the players was his timing, and musicality. It was always perfect. Miles reached inner sanctums that few would only dream of entering. Baker was the equivalent with a different style. And somewhere we gotta put Freddie Hubbard into that mix.
gary

lazydays · « **Reply #147 on:** 19 Sep 2011, 05:17 pm »

Quote from: neobop on 14 May 2011, 04:25 am

Blutto,
Absolutely no animosity here. No bomb shelter required. I'm just making a point, expressing my point of view. We're talking about dead guys and they can't respond or comment about criticism. I understand your point of view. I felt much the same way when I was young and playing trumpet in a big band setting. But at the same time I really dug Kind of Blue, and realized the distinctions I tried to point out.

Maynard Ferguson was an idol. Today I almost never listen to him. The stuff he did in the early '60s is the only things of his I think are worth listening to. That's my values, maybe not yours or Richies. I don't expect you guys to agree. On the other hand, Miles' contribution is undeniable. He changed the music, in more ways than one. That's history man. Bird and a few other cats invented bop, that's history too. Ask yourself this, where would we be today if it wasn't for ______. Bird, Miles and Trane are at the top of my list. The most important players who ever lived. That's not just my list. Can you dig it?
neo

absolutely correct!!
glt

lazydays · « **Reply #148 on:** 19 Sep 2011, 05:21 pm »

Quote from: mjosef on 14 May 2011, 06:12 am

As I see it/ and hear it...Miles playing was not about the notes per se, but the "feeling" he wished to convey... a task I think he did quite successfully. No other trumpeter could "squeeze" out a feeling like he did with just a single note, smeary or otherwise. Just one blast, and you know its Miles. That I would say is a unique thing to achieve on any instrument. But what do I know, I am no musician, nor authority.

I am with Lester Bowie when he said the Miles just changed the sound of the trumpet by playing across the scales, sideways...instead up and down the scales like every other trumpeter that came before him.

a lot of jazz is improvisational, so the next time you hear that tune it will be slightly different. Few musicians follow the charts to the exact note, and thats why we have different styles of music.
gary

nu62 · « **Reply #149 on:** 19 Sep 2011, 05:33 pm »

Clifford Brown, Dizzy and Lee Morgan. Chet Baker for style, not technical ability. Also Jim Cullum Jr. among current players.

Chinaski · « **Reply #150 on:** 19 Sep 2011, 09:20 pm »

Eric Miyashiro, Maynard Ferguson, Arturo Sandoval, and, of course, Brownie.

jimdgoulding · « **Reply #151 on:** 19 Sep 2011, 11:37 pm »

Quote from: jazzster on 17 Sep 2011, 02:56 am

Don't think I've read anyone mentioned Carmell Jones. Just fantastic!

Yep. That ain't no lie.

nnck · « **Reply #152 on:** 20 Sep 2011, 01:33 am »

I like a lot of those mentioned. But my favorite has to be Don Cherry. Often neglected (8 pages here and I dont think he was even mentioned?), more people need to check him out.

To be fair, on a lot of my favorite recordings of his he is often playing several other instruments other than just trumpet. Check out Mu, Orient, Eternal Now, Brown Rice, Blue Lake.

jimdgoulding · « **Reply #153 on:** 20 Sep 2011, 02:21 am »

Quote from: nnck on 20 Sep 2011, 01:33 am

I like a lot of those mentioned. But my favorite has to be Don Cherry. Often neglected (8 pages here and I dont think he was even mentioned?), more people need to check him out.

To be fair, on a lot of my favorite recordings of his he is often playing several other instruments other than just trumpet. Check out Mu, Orient, Eternal Now, Brown Rice, Blue Lake.

I have Old and New Bottles (ECM), Eternal Rhythm (MPS/BASF), and an untitled album on the Horizon/A&M label where Brown Rice is the opening track. I like Don Cherry a lot on 2 of the 3 and other albums not at my disposal just now. He is a sideman on a couple of JCOA albums I have. The MPS album is just TOO abstract for me, however. Thanks for including him.

hndaaudio · « **Reply #154 on:** 20 Nov 2011, 01:26 pm »

Anyone here like Allen Vizzutti ?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dLfCsVIWT9M

lazydays · « **Reply #155 on:** 7 Dec 2011, 06:46 pm »

just hanging around listening to Mr. Rava a lot. But lately I've kinda picked up on a new kid that plays both the trumpet and the flugehorn, and plays them very well. He has a little more pressense and power than Roy Hargrow, but his timing is still not quite there (maybe 90%). Seems to play everything well, but needs some additional work on his improvisational stuff I put him at 36 months out from being a top notch player (if not sooner). By his sound; I can tell he's out of the IU School of Music (jazz studies). If you like Nick Payton; your gonna love this guy!
gary

coverto · « **Reply #156 on:** 10 Dec 2011, 05:41 pm »

Was just listening to Thad Jones last night blowing some "Stormy Weather" on Mingus' "Jazzical Moods" album... Such a huge, magnificent, pure and fleshy tone... One of those moments that makes you ask "is there any instrument greater than the trumpet?"

Trover · « **Reply #157 on:** 24 Jan 2012, 09:02 pm »

Charles Tolliver
Art Farmer

jjc1 · « **Reply #158 on:** 25 Jan 2012, 09:21 pm »

Not bad at all. And he should be around for a while.

MrAcoustat · « **Reply #159 on:** 24 Nov 2012, 06:29 pm »

Trumpet is not my favorite instrument BUT played by Chris Botti and played this way i love it.