Exodus Anarchy Design

Rick Craig · « **Reply #20 on:** 26 Apr 2010, 08:02 pm »

I've had some requests for kit pricing with cabinets. The total cost is $800/pr. and this includes everything but the woofers. Cabinets can be furnished with rear or front ports. The crossovers include Dayton polypropylene caps, Mills resistors, and air core inductors. If you prefer more exotic caps we can substitute. Shipping included (mainland USA) and no extra fees for PayPal.

Rick Craig · « **Reply #21 on:** 29 Apr 2010, 07:06 pm »

The first kit shipped this week and next week another set is going out. I look forward to hearing about the results.

yotacowboy · « **Reply #22 on:** 16 May 2010, 03:28 am »

Hey Rick -

everything's assembled and running in right now (listening to Broken Social Scene's new album as I type) - I'll save any thorough comments until I've got a couple hundred hours on 'em. so far i've got maybe 40 hours on them. I will say that there's useable response down to the low-30hz range in room (albeit, somewhat smallish, 10'x14'x9') - so, wow, these anarchy drivers have got some balls! They are power hungry little dudes, tho.

As an aside, what did you think of the tweeter after measurements and a little listening?

Clay

Rick Craig · « **Reply #23 on:** 18 May 2010, 01:10 am »

Quote from: yotacowboy on 16 May 2010, 03:28 am

Hey Rick -

everything's assembled and running in right now (listening to Broken Social Scene's new album as I type) - I'll save any thorough comments until I've got a couple hundred hours on 'em. so far i've got maybe 40 hours on them. I will say that there's useable response down to the low-30hz range in room (albeit, somewhat smallish, 10'x14'x9') - so, wow, these anarchy drivers have got some balls! They are power hungry little dudes, tho.

As an aside, what did you think of the tweeter after measurements and a little listening?

Clay

I thought the tweeter was a good match and is an excellent value. Looking forward to hearing your thoughts on the sound.

Rick Craig · « **Reply #24 on:** 18 May 2010, 02:43 pm »

Quote from: yotacowboy on 16 May 2010, 03:28 am

Hey Rick -

everything's assembled and running in right now (listening to Broken Social Scene's new album as I type) - I'll save any thorough comments until I've got a couple hundred hours on 'em. so far i've got maybe 40 hours on them. I will say that there's useable response down to the low-30hz range in room (albeit, somewhat smallish, 10'x14'x9') - so, wow, these anarchy drivers have got some balls! They are power hungry little dudes, tho.

As an aside, what did you think of the tweeter after measurements and a little listening?

Clay

Another set went out last week as well

Rick Craig · « **Reply #25 on:** 26 May 2010, 04:59 pm »

I also am working on 3-way designs using the Anarchy drivers for anyone interested in a floorstanding speaker.

ttan98 · « **Reply #26 on:** 27 May 2010, 02:25 am »

The speakers looks interesting and has plenty of bass output, something has to give the sensitivity is too low for me.

I notice your designs criteria remains essentially unchange, also discussed in another thread,

1. there is dip around 2-3kHz, I assume the x-over frequency is around that region?
2. horizontal and vertical off axis performance looks impressive, is this it a typical target performance you are aiming for or this set of graphs applies for this woofer and tweeter combo?
3. the on-axis FR there is slight tilt upwards above 8kHz, did you design on on purpose or the rise comes from the natural rise of the tweeter(it has the advantage when measured off axis, its performance it will be flat or lower)?

Thanks for your time.

Rick Craig · « **Reply #27 on:** 27 May 2010, 03:12 am »

Quote from: ttan98 on 27 May 2010, 02:25 am

The speakers looks interesting and has plenty of bass output, something has to give the sensitivity is too low for me.

I notice your designs criteria remains essentially unchange, also discussed in another thread,

1. there is dip around 2-3kHz, I assume the x-over frequency is around that region?
2. horizontal and vertical off axis performance looks impressive, is this it a typical target performance you are aiming for or this set of graphs applies for this woofer and tweeter combo?
3. the on-axis FR there is slight tilt upwards above 8kHz, did you design on on purpose or the rise comes from the natural rise of the tweeter(it has the advantage when measured off axis, its performance it will be flat or lower)?

Thanks for your time.

The curve is normalized to 80db to make it easier to read - actual sensitivity is higher than that. The speaker can be driven to loud levels with 75-100 watts.

ttan98 · « **Reply #28 on:** 27 May 2010, 04:41 am »

Quote from: Rick Craig on 27 May 2010, 03:12 am

The curve is normalized to 80db to make it easier to read - actual sensitivity is higher than that. The speaker can be driven to loud levels with 75-100 watts.

What about other questions listed here? Would appreciate if you can answer.

Rick Craig · « **Reply #29 on:** 27 May 2010, 12:16 pm »

Quote from: ttan98 on 27 May 2010, 04:41 am

What about other questions listed here? Would appreciate if you can answer.

The on-axis and off-axis response is a result of optimizing the crossover point (proprietary) and slopes. I don't really have a target response in mind; however, I like to keep things as neutral as possible. The power response of the dome tweeter was taken into consideration and if I had included a 15 degree horizontal curve you can see that the response in the top octave is extremely flat.

jtwrace · « **Reply #30 on:** 27 May 2010, 12:43 pm »

Rick,

Have you posted on axis and off axis response curves? I'm surprised that you won't publish the crossover point. Is it really that big of a deal?

jtwrace · « **Reply #31 on:** 27 May 2010, 01:02 pm »

Quote from: jtwrace on 27 May 2010, 12:43 pm

Rick,

Have you posted on axis and off axis response curves?

Post #19. sorry.

Rick Craig · « **Reply #32 on:** 27 May 2010, 01:22 pm »

Quote from: jtwrace on 27 May 2010, 12:43 pm

Rick,

Have you posted on axis and off axis response curves? I'm surprised that you won't publish the crossover point. Is it really that big of a deal?

Hint - look at the impedance plot to get an idea of the crossover point.

jtwrace · « **Reply #33 on:** 27 May 2010, 01:43 pm »

Quote from: Rick Craig on 27 May 2010, 01:22 pm

Hint - look at the impedance plot to get an idea of the crossover point.

got it.

poseidonsvoice · « **Reply #34 on:** 27 May 2010, 02:40 pm »

Quote from: Rick Craig on 26 May 2010, 04:59 pm

I also am working on 3-way designs using the Anarchy drivers for anyone interested in a floorstanding speaker.

That's a better application for this driver.

Anand.

Rick Craig · « **Reply #35 on:** 27 May 2010, 02:49 pm »

Quote from: poseidonsvoice on 27 May 2010, 02:40 pm

That's a better application for this driver.

Anand.

Why do you think that?

exojam · « **Reply #36 on:** 28 May 2010, 08:59 pm »

Rick,

Is there any thought of using this driver in a small cab, say .25 cubic feet? Something that could be used for a small surround if the driver would work in something that small. Thanks.

James

Rick Craig · « **Reply #37 on:** 29 May 2010, 12:03 am »

Quote from: exojam on 28 May 2010, 08:59 pm

Rick,

Is there any thought of using this driver in a small cab, say .25 cubic feet? Something that could be used for a small surround if the driver would work in something that small. Thanks.

James

It's possible a sealed box would perfrom well - I could look into it if you like.

poseidonsvoice · « **Reply #38 on:** 29 May 2010, 12:12 am »

Quote from: Rick Craig on 27 May 2010, 02:49 pm

Why do you think that?

Oh...I have always wanted to see the Anarchy on the low end of a larger multi-way design so I was just gently coaxing you along....

Anand.

Rick Craig · « **Reply #39 on:** 29 May 2010, 01:35 am »

Quote from: poseidonsvoice on 29 May 2010, 12:12 am

Oh...I have always wanted to see the Anarchy on the low end of a larger multi-way design so I was just gently coaxing you along....

Anand.

I agree and already being coaxed in that direction.