What do you like most about Bryston?

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic. Read 16406 times.

James Tanner

  • Facilitator
  • Posts: 20861
  • The Demo is Everything!
    • http://www.bryston.com
Re: What do you like most about Bryston?
« Reply #40 on: 30 Jan 2010, 12:50 pm »
Ok I'm going to add a rule, Name one thing you like most about Bryston. Then name one thing you love about me. ok.... GO!!!

The one thing I like most about Bryston is I get to do something with my life that brings comfort and pleasure to others. :D
The one thing I love most about Pez is his sense of humour - in this world we need all we can get. :thumb:

james

95Dyna

  • Full Member
  • Posts: 1180
Re: What do you like most about Bryston?
« Reply #41 on: 30 Jan 2010, 07:28 pm »
Which make and model speakers are you using?

Hi Dave,

The quote feature doesn't seem to be working as it left out my post to which you refer in your question.  I'm using Infinity 9 Kappas circa 1990.

Bill

vegasdave

  • Full Member
  • Posts: 4039
    • My online rock magazine-Crypt Magazine
Re: What do you like most about Bryston?
« Reply #42 on: 30 Jan 2010, 10:14 pm »
I remember those! Pretty good speakers from what I recall. What's the driver compliment?

95Dyna

  • Full Member
  • Posts: 1180
Re: What do you like most about Bryston?
« Reply #43 on: 31 Jan 2010, 02:36 am »
I remember those! Pretty good speakers from what I recall. What's the driver compliment?

-One front firing and one rear firing super tweeter (ribbon)
-One tweeter 1.5 inch (ribbon)
-One 4.5 inch dipole midrange
-One 5.5 inch mid bass
-Two 12" woofers
-59.5" H x 23" W X 8" D  120lbs.
-Frequncy range 29hz to 44 khz +/- 3db down 6 db @ 25 hz
-Nominal impedence 4-6 ohms, .8 ohms minimum @ 24 hz

 To the 7B SST2's credit, these are notorious amp killers and the 7B's don't break a sweat no matter how hard they are driven or the difficulty of the material.

vegasdave

  • Full Member
  • Posts: 4039
    • My online rock magazine-Crypt Magazine
Re: What do you like most about Bryston?
« Reply #44 on: 31 Jan 2010, 03:13 am »
-One front firing and one rear firing super tweeter (ribbon)
-One tweeter 1.5 inch (ribbon)
-One 4.5 inch dipole midrange
-One 5.5 inch mid bass
-Two 12" woofers
-59.5" H x 23" W X 8" D  120lbs.
-Frequncy range 29hz to 44 khz +/- 3db down 6 db @ 25 hz
-Nominal impedence 4-6 ohms, .8 ohms minimum @ 24 hz

 To the 7B SST2's credit, these are notorious amp killers and the 7B's don't break a sweat no matter how hard they are driven or the difficulty of the material.


Wow, that's one Helluva speaker! Cool. I'm still deciding whether to bi-amp with a 4BSST2 and my 4BSST, or go with the 7BSST2s. This of course will be driving a new pair of speakers. I've narrowed it down to JBL, Legacy, or Tannoy.

95Dyna

  • Full Member
  • Posts: 1180
Re: What do you like most about Bryston?
« Reply #45 on: 1 Feb 2010, 12:24 am »
Wow, that's one Helluva speaker! Cool. I'm still deciding whether to bi-amp with a 4BSST2 and my 4BSST, or go with the 7BSST2s. This of course will be driving a new pair of speakers. I've narrowed it down to JBL, Legacy, or Tannoy.

I'm not familiar with the Tannoy but was once very interested in the Legacy Focus and I understand more that a few members like the 1400 Arrays.  Which of these makes are you looking at?

Laundrew

  • Full Member
  • Posts: 7147
  • "Sometimes it rains inside my head..."
Re: What do you like most about Bryston?
« Reply #46 on: 1 Feb 2010, 01:32 am »
I'm not familiar with the Tannoy but was once very interested in the Legacy Focus and I understand more that a few members like the 1400 Arrays.  Which of these makes are you looking at?

Someone mention JBL Arrays? :drool: :wink:

Be well...

vegasdave

  • Full Member
  • Posts: 4039
    • My online rock magazine-Crypt Magazine
Re: What do you like most about Bryston?
« Reply #47 on: 1 Feb 2010, 01:59 am »
I'm not familiar with the Tannoy but was once very interested in the Legacy Focus and I understand more that a few members like the 1400 Arrays.  Which of these makes are you looking at?

My strongest consideration are the JBLs, and that's correct, the 1400 Arrays. There's no way in Hell I can even come close to affording the K2s.

Next up, are the Tannoy Prestige series, which are supposed to be very good.

Then, there's the Legacy Focus HD...a lot of speaker for the money.

Finally, I forgot to mention the Thiel 3.7s.

I've only heard these speakers at CES, so I need to audition them more at a dealer. I would have to travel as there's none of the above speakers available for audition here in Vegas.

With the kind of money I would have to invest in any of these speakers, traveling is no big deal.

vegasdave

  • Full Member
  • Posts: 4039
    • My online rock magazine-Crypt Magazine
Re: What do you like most about Bryston?
« Reply #48 on: 1 Feb 2010, 02:02 am »
Someone mention JBL Arrays? :drool: :wink:

Be well...

What do you like about those? What are their strengths and weaknesses?

VOLKS

Re: What do you like most about Bryston?
« Reply #49 on: 1 Feb 2010, 10:21 pm »
I had a chance to listen to the  JBL Arrays connected to all bryston gear.They have a huge soundstage and amazing bass,but the mids seemed way to bright for me.Almost as if it had a bright ringing quality to it.For the price of the  JBL Arrays its scary,because i have heard the same quality of sound  that the  JBL Arrays produce in a Klipsch speaker for under 2 grand.Good bass/wide soundstage,but damm bright mids.If horns are your thing i guess its ok.

Laundrew

  • Full Member
  • Posts: 7147
  • "Sometimes it rains inside my head..."
Re: What do you like most about Bryston?
« Reply #50 on: 2 Feb 2010, 05:30 am »
I had a chance to listen to the  JBL Arrays connected to all bryston gear.They have a huge soundstage and amazing bass,but the mids seemed way to bright for me.Almost as if it had a bright ringing quality to it.For the price of the  JBL Arrays its scary,because i have heard the same quality of sound  that the  JBL Arrays produce in a Klipsch speaker for under 2 grand.Good bass/wide soundstage,but damm bright mids.If horns are your thing i guess its ok.

Hello VOLKS,

Do you remember what model the Arrays were?

Be well...

VOLKS

Re: What do you like most about Bryston?
« Reply #51 on: 2 Feb 2010, 07:16 am »
Yes they were the 1400 Arrays.....the "Look" of them never did anything for me either......nor the sound .....like i said 2K pair of Klipsch sounded the same almost clone like,but looked much nicer.

Laundrew

  • Full Member
  • Posts: 7147
  • "Sometimes it rains inside my head..."
Re: What do you like most about Bryston?
« Reply #52 on: 4 Feb 2010, 01:39 am »
Yes they were the 1400 Arrays.....the "Look" of them never did anything for me either......nor the sound .....like i said 2K pair of Klipsch sounded the same almost clone like,but looked much nicer.

Diversity - the spice of life, eh? It is great how we all have a common passion for quality audio but reach nirvana by our own individual and dedicated path.

I would tend to agree, that at one time, horns were somewhat “bright” but the JBL Project Arrays have easily dispensed of this. Even with the new Bryston SST^2 amplifiers, some individuals claim that Bryston is still somewhat “bright.” I would also say that this is not true.

The “love it or hate it” Project Arrays aesthetics, it is very refreshing to have a speaker manufacturer thinking outside of the box - literally. I prefer the aesthetics of the Project Arrays over any other speaker including the JBL K2. Perhaps it is my artistic side “peeking” through.

As for audio quality, I am sold on the performance and delicacy of the 1400s - for me, horn-loaded compression drivers are the path to my audio nirvana (driven by the 28Bs of course). After auditioning speakers for almost a year, The JBL Project Array 1400s were my hands down choice (even over speakers with considerably higher price tags).     

I have seen the 1400s, for a lack of a better description, have everything thrown at them - including the kitchen sink with everything attached during a demo by an audio dealer who was not reluctant in anyway what so ever to truly test the mettle of the JBL Project Array 1400s. This is when I actually witnessed the Bryston 28Bs clipping :o

I would never subject my 1400s to this insanity.

Somehow I do not see a pair of $2K Klipsch speakers surviving the thrashing a very angry 1200 plus watt 28B would deliver (and we are speaking of a crystal clear audio output here) :nono: I am in no way intending to be condensing with this statement. Perhaps, more of an introduction for the next paragraph. 

What you must also examine are the components that make up the JBL Project Array 1400. The 1400’s 14-inch woofer has a four-inch edge wound voice coil. The K2 S5800 and JBL Project Array 1400 also share 435AL aluminium midrange compression driver. On top of this you have a one-inch, pure titanium compression driver. Want an inert material? How about compression-moulded Sono-Glass enclosures. Precise imagining and awesome sound from low levels all the way up to levels that can hurt you.

Price wise, I think at the time of my purchase, the list price for the 1400s was a modest $13,000.00 to $14,000.00 - a bargain for this kind of stellar performance. I have recently read some reviews that now place the list price at just under $19,000.00.

I believe the old adage of "you get what you pay for." 

I am spoiled with the JBL Project Arrays and now compare any other speaker that I hear to them. If I were to upgrade (I hope my audio guy does not read this :wink:) I would have a pair of K2s on the floor.

My humble opinion of course :D

Be well…

nikon

Re: What do you like most about Bryston?
« Reply #53 on: 4 Feb 2010, 04:56 am »
Like Laundrew, I had a demo of the 1400s at Altronics in Toronto where the owner played

'Frankenstein', a rock instrumental by The Edgar Winter Group from their album They Only Come Out At Night

at incredible SPL on an all Bryston system (dont remember the amplifier). I had stopped by to demo the BDA-1 and he suggested I listen to it via the above - unbelievable experience  :o

Laundrew

  • Full Member
  • Posts: 7147
  • "Sometimes it rains inside my head..."
Re: What do you like most about Bryston?
« Reply #54 on: 4 Feb 2010, 05:11 am »
Like Laundrew, I had a demo of the 1400s at Altronics in Toronto where the owner played

'Frankenstein', a rock instrumental by The Edgar Winter Group from their album They Only Come Out At Night

at incredible SPL on an all Bryston system (dont remember the amplifier). I had stopped by to demo the BDA-1 and he suggested I listen to it via the above - unbelievable experience  :o

Hello nikon,

That is where I purchased my system from :thumb: I demo'd the 1400s on the 7Bs, the Krell FBI and then the 28Bs :drool:

Be well...

Laundrew

  • Full Member
  • Posts: 7147
  • "Sometimes it rains inside my head..."
Re: What do you like most about Bryston?
« Reply #55 on: 4 Feb 2010, 05:33 am »
Diversity - the spice of life, eh? It is great how we all have a common passion for quality audio but reach nirvana by our own individual and dedicated path.

I would tend to agree, that at one time, horns were somewhat “bright” but the JBL Project Arrays have easily dispensed of this. Even with the new Bryston SST^2 amplifiers, some individuals claim that Bryston is still somewhat “bright.” I would also say that this is not true.

The “love it or hate it” Project Arrays aesthetics, it is very refreshing to have a speaker manufacturer thinking outside of the box - literally. I prefer the aesthetics of the Project Arrays over any other speaker including the JBL K2. Perhaps it is my artistic side “peeking” through.

As for audio quality, I am sold on the performance and delicacy of the 1400s - for me, horn-loaded compression drivers are the path to my audio nirvana (driven by the 28Bs of course). After auditioning speakers for almost a year, The JBL Project Array 1400s were my hands down choice (even over speakers with considerably higher price tags).     

I have seen the 1400s, for a lack of a better description, have everything thrown at them - including the kitchen sink with everything attached during a demo by an audio dealer who was not reluctant in anyway what so ever to truly test the mettle of the JBL Project Array 1400s. This is when I actually witnessed the Bryston 28Bs clipping :o

I would never subject my 1400s to this insanity.

Somehow I do not see a pair of $2K Klipsch speakers surviving the thrashing a very angry 1200 plus watt 28B would deliver (and we are speaking of a crystal clear audio output here) :nono: I am in no way intending to be condensing with this statement. Perhaps, more of an introduction for the next paragraph. 

What you must also examine are the components that make up the JBL Project Array 1400. The 1400’s 14-inch woofer has a four-inch edge wound voice coil. The K2 S5800 and JBL Project Array 1400 also share 435AL aluminium midrange compression driver. On top of this you have a one-inch, pure titanium compression driver. Want an inert material? How about compression-moulded Sono-Glass enclosures. Precise imagining and awesome sound from low levels all the way up to levels that can hurt you.

Price wise, I think at the time of my purchase, the list price for the 1400s was a modest $13,000.00 to $14,000.00 - a bargain for this kind of stellar performance. I have recently read some reviews that now place the list price at just under $19,000.00.

I believe the old adage of "you get what you pay for." 

I am spoiled with the JBL Project Arrays and now compare any other speaker that I hear to them. If I were to upgrade (I hope my audio guy does not read this :wink:) I would have a pair of K2s on the floor.

My humble opinion of course :D

Be well…

Condensing?  :duh: :duh: :duh: "Condescending"

Sigh...

VOLKS

Re: What do you like most about Bryston?
« Reply #56 on: 4 Feb 2010, 07:55 am »
Laundrew ....oh my your so very,very humble when it comes to the JBL 1400 Arrays*Cough* B******T lol:)........for me all i can say is thank god there are other brands of speakers out there,cause no matter what i read or hear about the JBL 1400 Arrays ......to me they are very overpriced for the quality of sound they deliver and like i said.......they are very bright and to fatiguing for my tastes..........and thats my Humble opinion:)
« Last Edit: 4 Feb 2010, 06:37 pm by VOLKS »

James Tanner

  • Facilitator
  • Posts: 20861
  • The Demo is Everything!
    • http://www.bryston.com
Re: What do you like most about Bryston?
« Reply #57 on: 4 Feb 2010, 12:06 pm »
Hi MP - what speakers do you have and what speakers do you like?

james

VOLKS

Re: What do you like most about Bryston?
« Reply #58 on: 4 Feb 2010, 06:42 pm »
Hi James........Currently have the Kef XQ 40's and by the end of this year will be making a leap to the KEF Reference 207/2 Current Model.

vegasdave

  • Full Member
  • Posts: 4039
    • My online rock magazine-Crypt Magazine
Re: What do you like most about Bryston?
« Reply #59 on: 4 Feb 2010, 09:30 pm »
Thank you for the reviews, Volks and Laundrew. If the JBLs are now $19000, that is way beyond what I can do. That price is much too much for me. My understanding is that they were $11000 US. I'm going to have to try very hard to get b-stock, demo, or worst case scenario, used. The JBL rep for my area said that b-stock and demo are possibilities.

We'll see what happens.