Snow Leopard.

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Crimson

Snow Leopard.
« on: 28 Aug 2009, 09:11 pm »
Have it installed on my laptop (2 GHz C2D) and it's fast. Everything just happens quicker. I haven't explored any new features yet, but next on my list is to try and connect with an MS exchange server. This machine also has Amarra installed on it, and seems to run fine. I'll post about sonics over the weekend.

Please post any features/adds that you find over the course of the next few days.

Mike Nomad

Re: Snow Leopard.
« Reply #1 on: 28 Aug 2009, 09:15 pm »
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Re: Snow Leopard.
« Reply #2 on: 28 Aug 2009, 09:24 pm »
I've read on another forum that Max doesn't work with it...just a heads up. 

I might install tomorrow and try it.  Glad to hear that Amarra works with it.

TomS

Re: Snow Leopard.
« Reply #3 on: 28 Aug 2009, 09:27 pm »
I've read on another forum that Max doesn't work with it...just a heads up. 

I might install tomorrow and try it.  Glad to hear that Amarra works with it.
Ugh, that's a deal killer for me...  Thanks for letting us know.

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Re: Snow Leopard.
« Reply #4 on: 28 Aug 2009, 09:28 pm »
Talked with Jonathan at Sonic (Amarra) and he said not to install until after the weekend and they had a chance to test the production version, so i'll wait.  It's still just 32 bit kernel on your machine, right Crimson?

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Re: Snow Leopard.
« Reply #5 on: 28 Aug 2009, 09:33 pm »
I've read on another forum that Max doesn't work with it...just a heads up. 

I might install tomorrow and try it.  Glad to hear that Amarra works with it.
Ugh, that's a deal killer for me...  Thanks for letting us know.

Deal killer for today.  They (sbooth) are working on it as we speak is what I was told

Mike Nomad

Re: Snow Leopard.
« Reply #6 on: 28 Aug 2009, 09:38 pm »
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Nels Ferre

Re: Snow Leopard.
« Reply #7 on: 28 Aug 2009, 09:46 pm »
It runs lightning fast on my Macbook.:thumb:  Mine is a 32 bit kernel model (2.16 Core 2 duo, 4 GB RAM.)  I think it sounds better, but that my all be in my head- because I want it to. In any event it does not sound worse.

Max opens fine, I will check and see what happens later if I try to use it. It did automatically download an update for Max this morning before SL so I will see what happens and report back.




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Re: Snow Leopard.
« Reply #8 on: 28 Aug 2009, 09:55 pm »
So I guess that even though my 2008 macbook (4 gb SSD drive) has a 64 bit EFI Apple has disabled (temporarily, dunno) my ability to run 64 bit kernel (64 bit mode).  After perusing what I could...Most are saying to those of us who are EFI64 Macbook users: "so what, everything else (apps,etc.) can run 64 bit if needed; you aren't missing anything cuz 64 bit kernel really only struts its stuff above 32 GB RAM anyway."   Do I have this right?

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Re: Snow Leopard.
« Reply #9 on: 28 Aug 2009, 09:59 pm »
The way I understand it, if you have a unibody silver Macbook with the NVidia graphics card, you are good to go for 64 bit. If you have a black or white MacBook, you are limited to 32 bit. As far as the RAM requirement to see the 64 bit improvements, that is the first time I have heard that.

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Re: Snow Leopard.
« Reply #10 on: 28 Aug 2009, 10:14 pm »
The way I understand it, if you have a unibody silver Macbook with the NVidia graphics card, you are good to go for 64 bit. If you have a black or white MacBook, you are limited to 32 bit. As far as the RAM requirement to see the 64 bit improvements, that is the first time I have heard that.

There is no guessing, either you have a 64 bit EFi or you don't.  In terminal run this command and if "EFI64" comes up you do.
"ioreg -l -p IODeviceTree | grep firmware-abi"

Problem is....supposedly it doesn't matter, Apple has put a "governor" on all non-pro Macbooks regardless of 64 bit compatibility found above.

Nels Ferre

Re: Snow Leopard.
« Reply #11 on: 28 Aug 2009, 10:20 pm »
I knew about the command line to  run in terminal, but did not realize that Apple supposedly crippled the non Pro models.

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Re: Snow Leopard.
« Reply #12 on: 28 Aug 2009, 10:21 pm »
does this include the Mac Mini?  How do I check?  My Mini is the latest one ('09).

TomS

Re: Snow Leopard.
« Reply #13 on: 28 Aug 2009, 10:22 pm »
Hmmm, I ran it on my older white macbook and got the "EFI64"

Nels Ferre

Re: Snow Leopard.
« Reply #14 on: 28 Aug 2009, 10:28 pm »
I got EFI32 on my black MacBook. In any event, it still flies.

mike1964

Re: Snow Leopard.
« Reply #15 on: 28 Aug 2009, 10:30 pm »
Installing on my MBP 13" SSD right now....says 6 min to go. 

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Re: Snow Leopard.
« Reply #16 on: 28 Aug 2009, 11:29 pm »
Have installed it on my iMac 3.06/nVidia 8800gs, which I'm using as i write this.  Yes, things move much faster so far.  Am very interested in hearing how it sounds through the mini-toslink out into my Tact 2.2x DAC with iTunes vs. Songbird vs. Play, which I'm currently using to determine which software sounds best.  Won't get to it until later tonight, but will let you know if I hear anything noteworthy.  Also comparing sound with that which I get through Slimserver.  Cordially,

System: iMac w/ Snow Leopard (having repaired all disk permissions after install)->toslink or ethernet->TacT 2.2x->Melos SHA Gold Reference Maestro->homebrew UcD 400 & Gallo subamp->Gallo 3.1's (biamped). 

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Re: Snow Leopard.
« Reply #17 on: 28 Aug 2009, 11:57 pm »
Installed fine on my white Macbook (EFI64).  I have 4 GB and SSD drive, and iTunes/Amarra seems to run fine (both still 32 bit apps anyway).  RAMdisk works too.

Crimson

Re: Snow Leopard.
« Reply #18 on: 29 Aug 2009, 03:06 am »
Lot's of confusion has been clarified here.

There is no intentional crippling as it were, and the 32GB issue is explained.

Want to boot up in 64-bit? Hold down the 6 and 4 keys.  :wink:

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Re: Snow Leopard.
« Reply #19 on: 29 Aug 2009, 03:28 am »
Crimson,
No offense but don't add to the confusion.  EFI64 Macbooks cannot boot to 64 bit with the 6-4 hold down.  And I didn't mean intentional crippling, but the holding down of 6 and 4 (i.e. boot to 64 bit mode) does not work on EFI64 Macbooks (and of course not ever on EFI32 ones)...it is "crippled (your words)" by Apple temporarily until more apps are available and tested.  For the rest of you...Mac Mini users, (or Macbook Pro, iMac etc) those users will find that even though their machine defaults to 32 bit kernel boots, they can over-ride by holding 6-4.  I can't, even though i have an EFi64 machine.  The only machines that automagically boot into 64 bit are the X-Server ones.  Net/net, doesn't matter....rhetorical argument.  The 64 bit kernel doesn't reach its sweetspot until later when Apple machines have 32 Gb of RAM, and we all can run 64 bit apps in a 32 bit kernel nicely anywho.  My 4 GB machine would actually underperform in 64 bit mode (Mercman reports that in his 64 bit mode the Amarra/iTunes test sounded slightly worse than the 32 bit kernel...my point)  ; I'm happy running 64 bit apps in my 32 bit world thank you.   :D