Think your Squeezecenter web interface is too slow? Or just want a faster NAS?

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IronLion

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Get one of these: 

http://www.netgear.com/Products/Storage/ReadyNASPro.aspx

I just got one (3 x 500gb drives) with 3gb of memory and it smokes my old ReadyNas NV+.  The Squeezecenter web and remote-controlled interface are now indistinguishable from me running Squeezecenter on my Macbook Pro.  Database scans that used to take 12-15 minutes on my NV+ now take a little over a minute.  Its not cheap, no, but if you want better performance out of your NAS and can afford it, this NAS will deliver. 

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Get one of these: 

http://www.netgear.com/Products/Storage/ReadyNASPro.aspx

I just got one (3 x 500gb drives) with 3gb of memory and it smokes my old ReadyNas NV+.  The Squeezecenter web and remote-controlled interface are now indistinguishable from me running Squeezecenter on my Macbook Pro.  Database scans that used to take 12-15 minutes on my NV+ now take a little over a minute.  Its not cheap, no, but if you want better performance out of your NAS and can afford it, this NAS will deliver. 

Ouch!!

$2k for 1.5TB of storage is a big pill to swallow.

George

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Its actually less than 1.5tb because its redundant, more like 900gb useable at the moment, but expandable to 3tb useable I think, if not more maybe.  Redundancy does provide peace of mind, and knowing that anything I put on there will basically stay there even if a drive crashes is nice to know.  I paid $1700 for mine with the 3gb of RAM.  When you consider in my mind the expandability and insurance and speed that it adds to my network-based system, within my budget, I think it was worth it.  People pay more for power cords and IC's.  At the end of the day though, like I said, not cheap, but it has provided me with improvements that are plain as day in my network-based system; I can't say that much for many of the components and tweaks I've bought in the past. 

kenreau

My squeezecenter interface is really slow and I've been wondering what to investigate.

Starting squeezecenter takes +/- 20 seconds and scrolling through the A, B, C, database sorting in annoyingly slow (several seconds). 

My OS and squeezecenter are on my primary drive, a 500GB (C:) drive.  All my music is on another internal hard drive.  I currently have roughly 600 albums, all in wav files on a 1TB internal drive (D:).  It is roughly 65% full.

My CPU is an Intel P-4 (with HT) 3.4 gHz something and I have 1 GB of ram.  Would it speed things up if I added another GB of ram (for total of 2 GB) ? 

Any suggestions to speed things up would be appreciated.

Thx
Kenreau

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My squeezecenter interface is really slow and I've been wondering what to investigate.

Starting squeezecenter takes +/- 20 seconds and scrolling through the A, B, C, database sorting in annoyingly slow (several seconds). 

My OS and squeezecenter are on my primary drive, a 500GB (C:) drive.  All my music is on another internal hard drive.  I currently have roughly 600 albums, all in wav files on a 1TB internal drive (D:).  It is roughly 65% full.

My CPU is an Intel P-4 (with HT) 3.4 gHz something and I have 1 GB of ram.  Would it speed things up if I added another GB of ram (for total of 2 GB) ? 

Any suggestions to speed things up would be appreciated.

Thx
Kenreau


Hey Kenreau, I don't consider myself a technology expert but if I had to guess, adding some more RAM might make a minor difference but not a huge one.  I would think that a lot of the slowness is due to the fact that you're playing .wav files, which are several times larger than FLAC files (which I use).  How do you connect to your network with your Squeezecenter PC?  Wireless or wired?  Other things you might investigate are your router speed. 

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My squeezecenter interface is really slow and I've been wondering what to investigate.

Starting squeezecenter takes +/- 20 seconds and scrolling through the A, B, C, database sorting in annoyingly slow (several seconds). 

My OS and squeezecenter are on my primary drive, a 500GB (C:) drive.  All my music is on another internal hard drive.  I currently have roughly 600 albums, all in wav files on a 1TB internal drive (D:).  It is roughly 65% full.

My CPU is an Intel P-4 (with HT) 3.4 gHz something and I have 1 GB of ram.  Would it speed things up if I added another GB of ram (for total of 2 GB) ? 

Any suggestions to speed things up would be appreciated.

Thx
Kenreau


I think the 1 TB drive may be the slow one.  I got tired of a ReadyNas and it's slow response.  I had a quiet PC built with a tank of a Lian case last year for PC audio.  I decided to use the internal drive bay to build a 4 drive RAID 5 storage.  I put in 4 600 GB SATA II drives and a 3ware RAID controller.   I am thinking RAID 5 with 4 drives should be faster than a single drive of comparable size.  Testing with pictures, it's pretty fast.  I am going to transfer my 1 TB of music files this weekend.   

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My squeezecenter interface is really slow and I've been wondering what to investigate.

Starting squeezecenter takes +/- 20 seconds and scrolling through the A, B, C, database sorting in annoyingly slow (several seconds). 

My OS and squeezecenter are on my primary drive, a 500GB (C:) drive.  All my music is on another internal hard drive.  I currently have roughly 600 albums, all in wav files on a 1TB internal drive (D:).  It is roughly 65% full.

My CPU is an Intel P-4 (with HT) 3.4 gHz something and I have 1 GB of ram.  Would it speed things up if I added another GB of ram (for total of 2 GB) ? 

Any suggestions to speed things up would be appreciated.




Thx
Kenreau



When was the last time you rebuilt your PC ?
How much stuff do you have running when your PC starts up....

I run Freenas with SB on an AMD 1.2 machine with 1g of ram. I don't run into too many issues though I am using FLAC...

JoshK

Squeezecenter is terribly painfully slow on my system.  Its only a AMD 2Ghz with 1+gigs of ram but surfing my library to play stuff is painfully slow.  I think it more due to SC being a memory whore. 

Brad

Didn't Mike Galusha take a look at how they were handling the database tables/indexing and find it pretty inefficient?
(in addition to using loads of RAM)

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Some opinions/suggestions:
Definitely try maximizing the RAM on your SqueezeCenter computers, even if it's dedicated to your audio system.  Using .wav is fine (vs. flac etc) as this certainly does NOT saturate the network connection and is natively decoded on the Slim device.  Also, consider changing the priority of your SqueezeCenter to a higher setting and test...


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Just thinking out loud here; I wonder if some of the folks who have drive sizes in the several hundred Gig, or 1+TB range need to defrag their drives?
Maybe a possible upgrade to a new version of SqueezeCenter could help.

Just about everything I do on mine takes a fraction of a second to respond, but nothing is "painfully" slow.

My PC: Windows XP MCE 2002 SP3- 1G Ram - 2.8 Ghz Pentium -
Tune Storage: RAID0 External USB 1TB total {(2) 500Gig SATA drives)}
Unmodded SqueezeBox3 (wired) SqueezeCenter v7.2

Bob

mgalusha

The interface on squeezecenter 7.x is pretty awful even on fast machines. Change the skin back to the older slim server skin and you will likely find the performance much improved. To do this click the settings icon, choose the Interface tab and change the web interface to "classic", hit apply then close and restart the browser.

Levi

I like the Buffalo TeraStation Live if you want a fast NAS.  I have installed one for a small business and it proves to have all the performance and reliability  one would expect for a NAS appliance.  http://www.buffalotech.com/products/network-storage/terastation/


kenreau

My squeezecenter interface is really slow and I've been wondering what to investigate.

Starting squeezecenter takes +/- 20 seconds and scrolling through the A, B, C, database sorting in annoyingly slow (several seconds). 

My OS and squeezecenter are on my primary drive, a 500GB (C:) drive.  All my music is on another internal hard drive.  I currently have roughly 600 albums, all in wav files on a 1TB internal drive (D:).  It is roughly 65% full.

My CPU is an Intel P-4 (with HT) 3.4 gHz something and I have 1 GB of ram.  Would it speed things up if I added another GB of ram (for total of 2 GB) ? 

Any suggestions to speed things up would be appreciated.

Thx
Kenreau


Hey Kenreau, I don't consider myself a technology expert but if I had to guess, adding some more RAM might make a minor difference but not a huge one.  I would think that a lot of the slowness is due to the fact that you're playing .wav files, which are several times larger than FLAC files (which I use).  How do you connect to your network with your Squeezecenter PC?  Wireless or wired?  Other things you might investigate are your router speed. 

RAM is soo cheap now, I might as well put another 1GB in it (I have the slots available).  My CPU with the SC and music HD are in my office and the TP is in the family room about 50' away.  I use a Belden 50 ethernet cable connection.

Thx,
Kenreau

kenreau

My squeezecenter interface is really slow and I've been wondering what to investigate.

Starting squeezecenter takes +/- 20 seconds and scrolling through the A, B, C, database sorting in annoyingly slow (several seconds). 

My OS and squeezecenter are on my primary drive, a 500GB (C:) drive.  All my music is on another internal hard drive.  I currently have roughly 600 albums, all in wav files on a 1TB internal drive (D:).  It is roughly 65% full.

My CPU is an Intel P-4 (with HT) 3.4 gHz something and I have 1 GB of ram.  Would it speed things up if I added another GB of ram (for total of 2 GB) ? 

Any suggestions to speed things up would be appreciated.

Thx
Kenreau


I think the 1 TB drive may be the slow one.  I got tired of a ReadyNas and it's slow response.  I had a quiet PC built with a tank of a Lian case last year for PC audio.  I decided to use the internal drive bay to build a 4 drive RAID 5 storage.  I put in 4 600 GB SATA II drives and a 3ware RAID controller.   I am thinking RAID 5 with 4 drives should be faster than a single drive of comparable size.  Testing with pictures, it's pretty fast.  I am going to transfer my 1 TB of music files this weekend.   

I wondered about that, but it is a nice Seagate 7200 rpm 32 cache internal hd.  I think it even uses the eSata connection?  The RAID scenario is probably more time and money than I've got bandwidth for.  If I max out the 1 TB over thenext year I may need to go down that route.  Or maybe a duo or quad core processor set up.

Thx,
Kenreau

kenreau

My squeezecenter interface is really slow and I've been wondering what to investigate.

Starting squeezecenter takes +/- 20 seconds and scrolling through the A, B, C, database sorting in annoyingly slow (several seconds). 

My OS and squeezecenter are on my primary drive, a 500GB (C:) drive.  All my music is on another internal hard drive.  I currently have roughly 600 albums, all in wav files on a 1TB internal drive (D:).  It is roughly 65% full.

My CPU is an Intel P-4 (with HT) 3.4 gHz something and I have 1 GB of ram.  Would it speed things up if I added another GB of ram (for total of 2 GB) ? 

Any suggestions to speed things up would be appreciated.




Thx
Kenreau



When was the last time you rebuilt your PC ?
How much stuff do you have running when your PC starts up....

I run Freenas with SB on an AMD 1.2 machine with 1g of ram. I don't run into too many issues though I am using FLAC...

The CPU was rebuilt exactly 2 years ago.  I use the MS onecare maintenance and firewall service.  The only program on start up is Squeezecenter.  I do have roughly a dozen icons on my desktop.  There are four family members with separate logins / desktops.

I run a disk clean up and defrag the HD once a week.

Thx,
Kenreau

kenreau

Some opinions/suggestions:
Definitely try maximizing the RAM on your SqueezeCenter computers, even if it's dedicated to your audio system.  Using .wav is fine (vs. flac etc) as this certainly does NOT saturate the network connection and is natively decoded on the Slim device.  Also, consider changing the priority of your SqueezeCenter to a higher setting and test...


I think I will buy another GB of RAM and see what that does. 

Could you explain the changing the priority of SC to a higher setting?  not familiar with that.

Thank you,
Kenreau

kenreau

The interface on squeezecenter 7.x is pretty awful even on fast machines. Change the skin back to the older slim server skin and you will likely find the performance much improved. To do this click the settings icon, choose the Interface tab and change the web interface to "classic", hit apply then close and restart the browser.

Excellent suggestion.  I will try that.

Thanks Mike,
Kenreau

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The interface on squeezecenter 7.x is pretty awful even on fast machines. Change the skin back to the older slim server skin and you will likely find the performance much improved. To do this click the settings icon, choose the Interface tab and change the web interface to "classic", hit apply then close and restart the browser.

I did this the other day and Mike is absolutely correct (as usual).  The classic interface was significantly faster than the Nokia 770 interface, as well as providing a lot more information.

George

mcullinan

I have 8 Gigs of RAM... on the SC server
Werd.
I use the interface on the wifes macbook with 2 gigs of RAM and its plenty fast.
I dont really think its slow. idk.

I moved all my music to an external drive through esata. Very fast. Maybe you are experiencing slow access times?
Mike