Metallica --> Death Magnetic

mcullinan · « **on:** 13 Sep 2008, 06:00 pm »

Uhh... heh... If your still getting your whole milk from your Mama’s breasts, then this album Ain’t for you.
A-
Mike

Bigfish · « **Reply #1 on:** 13 Sep 2008, 06:54 pm »

Mike:

This album received an outstanding review in the U.S. Today earlier this week. I guess you are saying it won't disappoint Metallica Fans like me!

Ken

emac · « **Reply #2 on:** 13 Sep 2008, 07:31 pm »

Got this album yesterday. Wow, it just screams of the Ride the Lighting and Master of Puppets era. And perhaps some of And Justice for All as well. Pretty good album, kind of what I was hoping St. Anger would have been like. I'm still more of a fan of the Load era albums (you can begin the floggings now), but Death Magnetic is a worthwhile addition for any metal fan.

JasonB · « **Reply #3 on:** 13 Sep 2008, 07:51 pm »

Anyone heard the vinyl version? Trying to figure out if they pressed it from an analog master.

Had heard that the digital version might have been victimized by the loudness war, any comments?

john1970 · « **Reply #4 on:** 13 Sep 2008, 08:26 pm »

I picked up the CD yesterday evening.

Musically IMO I thinking it is the best since And Justice For All and is similar in style to their work in the 80's. However, the compression on the CD is terrible. The best comparison I can make is listening to U2 Actung Baby (excellent dynamics) vs. U2 How to Dismantle an Atomic Bomb (zero dynamics). Of course I listen to Metallica loud. However, on Death Magnetic the compression is so bad that the drums have no resolution.

Very sad to see that Metallica made a very good CD and screwed it up with compression. The compression is so bad that after about 30 minutes it gives you a headache.

PeteG · « **Reply #5 on:** 13 Sep 2008, 08:55 pm »

Picked up the CD too, went to BB for the LP but they were sold out in one day.

emac · « **Reply #6 on:** 13 Sep 2008, 10:00 pm »

Quote from: john1970 on 13 Sep 2008, 08:26 pm

I picked up the CD yesterday evening.

Musically IMO I thinking it is the best since And Justice For All and is similar in style to their work in the 80's. However, the compression on the CD is terrible. The best comparison I can make is listening to U2 Actung Baby (excellent dynamics) vs. U2 How to Dismantle an Atomic Bomb (zero dynamics). Of course I listen to Metallica loud. However, on Death Magnetic the compression is so bad that the drums have no resolution.

Very sad to see that Metallica made a very good CD and screwed it up with compression. The compression is so bad that after about 30 minutes it gives you a headache.

I agree about the compression. A remastered version would be much better. But what else do we expect from Metallica?

john1970 · « **Reply #7 on:** 13 Sep 2008, 10:37 pm »

I would not blame the band. I blame an industry that over compresses most recent pop/rock records!

zybar · « **Reply #8 on:** 14 Sep 2008, 12:44 am »

I am ripping mine right now and will give it a listen shortly.

Worst case scenario is that I just listen to it at work and on the iPod.

George

Toka · « **Reply #9 on:** 15 Sep 2008, 01:18 am »

Great music, horrible sound...such a shame.

john1970 · « **Reply #10 on:** 15 Sep 2008, 01:26 am »

Quote from: Toka on 15 Sep 2008, 01:18 am

Great music, horrible sound...such a shame.

I second that opinion.

lonewolfny42 · « **Reply #11 on:** 15 Sep 2008, 01:30 am »

Quote from: john1970 on 15 Sep 2008, 01:26 am

Quote from: Toka on 15 Sep 2008, 01:18 am
Great music, horrible sound...such a shame.

I second that opinion.

You should let them know....

http://www.metallicabb.com/index.php

Found the topic...

Bigfish · « **Reply #12 on:** 15 Sep 2008, 01:57 am »

Darn, I ordered this album from Amazon.com yesterday!

Ken

acwd1950 · « **Reply #13 on:** 15 Sep 2008, 02:37 am »

Disappointed! Comparing it to early Metallica is like comparing apples to oranges! Early stuff TONS better than this album! I cant believe I wasted my 15 bucks on it. Got a headache and didnt even listen to a quarter of it. Skimmed through the cd hoping for one good song and didnt find one. Just my 2 cents

Steve

dorokusai · « **Reply #14 on:** 16 Sep 2008, 12:52 am »

I'm going to hope for a remaster based on what I've read here and there. They lost me when they started doing the same old formula lyrically and structure wise. AJFO was the last album I could even muscle through without wanting to break something. Load was a pants load of crap.

Vintage Metallica is a tough animal for them to top IMO.

Mark

acwd1950 · « **Reply #15 on:** 16 Sep 2008, 01:41 am »

Whats the LP sound like, anyone know?

Steve

sp0da · « **Reply #16 on:** 19 Sep 2008, 03:10 pm »

Quote from: dorokusai on 16 Sep 2008, 12:52 am

I'm going to hope for a remaster based on what I've read here and there. They lost me when they started doing the same old formula lyrically and structure wise. AJFO was the last album I could even muscle through without wanting to break something. Load was a pants load of crap.

Vintage Metallica is a tough animal for them to top IMO.

Mark

Check out the Guitar Hero 3 version. You don't need the game to get a copy of the Death Magnetic version. It is a night and day difference in production quality. You have to hear it to believe me, but it sounds like the GH3 versions are actually them playing the sound live in the studio without any (or a lot of) effects. With my setup, the CD version is loud at -50 on the Denon volume scale, put in the GH3 version, you have to crank it down to -30 to get the same volume level. Plus, with the GH3 version, you can actually hear the bass.

-Sp0da

mcullinan · « **Reply #17 on:** 19 Sep 2008, 03:16 pm »

YEah too bad on the mastering... Its still a great album though, musically. YEs its not equal to old Metallica, well its different, so Id call it a progression of sound in the choices they made to get here.
Mike

WerTicus · « **Reply #18 on:** 19 Sep 2008, 03:20 pm »

album is compressed to DEATH its totally unlistenable!

Here is an analasis i did in sound forge new album vs BLACK

mcullinan · « **Reply #19 on:** 19 Sep 2008, 03:25 pm »

Quote from: WerTicus on 19 Sep 2008, 03:20 pm

You guys call yourself audiophiles? the album is compressed to DEATH its totally unlistenable!

Can we uncompress it and recirculate it? I guess youd have to go back to the original tape... Why did Metallica make such a bad choice with mastering. They are musicians and obviously should care about the sound.
I listen mostly in my car or on my second system which is not quite audiophile so..
Mike