[Double Ugly]

In the FWIW Column:

I just replaced a Sunfire Cinema Grand in my system with a Wyred 4 Sound multi channel, to bi-amp my Emerald Physics CS-2's.  To my ears the W4S is just as good as the Sunfire in all areas, and noticeably better in the bass.

Dave

I've heard good things about the Wyred 4 Sound amps, but I've no personal experience with them. 

A comparison of the SX-1000 monoblocks to a Spectron MIII SE Mk2 would be interesting to say the least.

[rydenfan]

I know one person who compared/owned both a Wyred amp and the Spectron and his impressions were that the Wyred was rolled off in the high frequency in comparision to the Spectron. Of course YMMV 

[rydenfan]

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[rydenfan]

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[zybar]

I've heard good things about the Wyred 4 Sound amps, but I've no personal experience with them. 

A comparison of the SX-1000 monoblocks to a Spectron MIII SE Mk2 would be interesting to say the least.

Isn't there a $5-6,000 price difference between these amps?

While we all know price doesn't totally equate to performance, this does seem a little like David taking on Goliath.

George

[sts9fan]

But they are both ICE power correct?

[rydenfan]

But they are both ICE power correct?

They are both Class D, but not both ICE powered. The Spectron does not use the B&O modules that most of the other companies use. They use a proprietary design they have had since the 70's.

[Double Ugly]

I've heard good things about the Wyred 4 Sound amps, but I've no personal experience with them. 

A comparison of the SX-1000 monoblocks to a Spectron MIII SE Mk2 would be interesting to say the least.

Isn't there a $5-6,000 price difference between these amps?

While we all know price doesn't totally equate to performance, this does seem a little like David taking on Goliath.

George

True, but just as the Reality Cables have bested cables priced several times higher, maybe the Wyred 4 Sounds amps are up to the task.

The manufacturer states -

With balanced outputs ranging from 250 watts to 1000 watts, we can guarantee that these amplifiers can not be beat!

Marketing speak, yes, but maybe he actually believes it.

But they are both ICE power correct?

rydenfan is correct.  The Spectron is a in-house design from the mind of John Ulrick, the man who introduced the first commercially available Class D amplifier in 1974.

[KeithR]

I think the Pass 250.5 that i have is very coherent top to bottom.  my former nuforces probably had more bass, but less smooth/glassy high end.  the pass, while not tubey, is very easy to listen to without sacrificing detail.  doesn't seem overdone in any part of the frequency spectrum

that said, 85db sensitivity speaker may just need gobs of power than the Sunfire delivers (although i've heard some very negative things on its design/specs---haven't heard the amp myself to comment in full)

i'm really thinking of going high effiency though so i can try more fun low power tube stuff.  i'm not sure the high power SS really delivers these days.

[Imperial]

She usually ends every show with a blast-level performance of "Rage against the machine" ...

Plunk them!!!


Of course, I still think EC Nemo is the best!!! But they are hard to find, granted!

Imperial

[Big Red Machine]

I am ordering 2 SX1000 monos from Wyred today.  We'll give them a whirl.

[zybar]

I am ordering 2 SX1000 monos from Wyred today.  We'll give them a whirl.

Pete,

How do you find the time to audition all this gear?

George

[Big Red Machine]

I farm that out to subcontractors.

[consttraveler]

Big Red Machine:

When you talk to Wyred ask them to make sure they have the latest speaker cable connectors on your amp, expecially if you use spades.

Recently they changed suppliers because of bad connectors, and trust me, you don't want any of the old ones they might have laying around.

Best regards,

Dave

[Big Red Machine]

Oakie doakie.  Waiting on an invoice so I'll throw that in there.  Rick is very 'on the ball' anyways, so I expect he'll set me straight.

[consttraveler]

Big Red:

Just to be sure I am clear, they (Wyred) found the problem with the speaker cable connectors and immediately "fixed" it by getting another supplier.  However, you never know, and it doesn't hurt to ask for what you want.

My contacts with Wyred customer service have been very positive, every time, and I didn't want to imply otherwise.

The "new" connectors are an interesting design and the tightest connection I have experienced with spades.  I like them! 

Dave

[James Romeyn]

...i'm really thinking of going high effiency though so i can try more fun low power tube stuff...

Can't recommend more highly Duke LeJeune's direct-sold AudioKinesis (circle here) $4500/pr 93dB monopole Jazz Modules & $9k/pr 96dB bipolar Dream Maker (TAS latest Editor's Choice Award & a Lynn Olson pick).  Duke's speakers have a shockingly flat impedance curve, perfect for OTL &/or tubes in general.  JM sound great w/ 30W OTL, though a friend who likes headbanging metal heard the 60W Atma-Sphere & preferred his juggernaut 200W Jolida Music Envoy on the same speakers.

Dispersion is very wide for the largest sweet spot I know of.  This type of performance makes it hard to give up once you've experienced it.  Maximum SPL & dynamics are as good as I've heard.   

Duke worked w/ Earl Geddes & they share similar proprietary waveguided tweeters for uniform dispersion in the crossover range.  I'd look at Earl's speakers too.

I'm wanting Duke's promised future standmounts, estimated $2500-$3k/pr.  Subs will be mandatory because of expected bass cutoff of 70Hz. 

Because of experiments w/ Earl's bass advice I currently believe state of the art bass in most rooms is via at least three subs located throughout the listening room w/ two LP xo poles.       

i'm not sure the high power SS really delivers these days

Couldn't agree more.  Reports are the fewer the output devices the better the potential purity of sound.  Power generally requires more outputs.  Gamut, Plinius lower-powered Classs-A, darTZeel, a German company whose name excapes me & others are believers in this philosophy.   

[jbtrio]

Pete, I have Salk HT-3s paired with a Spectron Musician III SE and the combo is awesome. The amp controls those woofers effortlessly.

 The bass is deep,tight,and powerful with excellent tone and texture. The midrange and treble is also first rate. I have been in this crazy hobby for 30 yrs. and can honestly say I finally don't have an urge to upgrade my equipment!

 If you get a chance to listen to the Spectron make sure it has over 500 hrs. to hear its true potential.

Joe

[Double Ugly]

If you get a chance to listen to the Spectron make sure it has over 500 hrs. to hear its true potential.

This is true IME as well. 

[Imperial]

Uh...  What does IME mean?

Imperial