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I decided to redact this post. I've already strirred things up too much.
Quote from: Jim N. on 7 Feb 2007, 07:19 amI decided to redact this post. I've already strirred things up too much.Can't you just click the "Remove" button?se
Quote from: rabpaul on 7 Feb 2007, 06:21 amI also hardly think that the people at Postive Feedback can be so easily be conned.Is that what you think?Try this one on for size.The award in question was given out by writers Dave and Carol Clark (if you go to the article you'll see that it's "The Clark's Brutus and Gizmo Awards for 2006"). Carol Clark has placed photographs of herself (as well as photographs of her audio system) in her freezer and wrote that doing so not only improved the sound of her system, but all the other systems she listened to, even as far away as Las Vegas (she'd attended the CES at the time). This tweak came to her from the infamous Peter Belt, who claimed:Each individual human had a fundamental adverse problem imposed on their senses when they had their first photograph taken. A photographic image captures the unique identity of the subject of the photograph but imposes a significant temporal (time) asymmetrical pattern. The action of this photograph radically changed the inner symmetry of the senses of the photographed human being. Fortunately, this debilitating adverse condition is reversible.To restore a significant temporal (time) symmetry to any person's senses, it is necessary to acquire one photograph which was exposed when the person was young and another photograph exposed when the person was older. Each photograph is placed, individually, into it's own clear plastic bag. The two plastic bags, each containing a spaced time photograph of the same individual, should be placed inside the freezer compartment of the domestic refrigerator.Geoff Kait, who "invented" the CLC, is also a practitioner (or at least was) of freezing photographs of himself. He wrote on the Peter Belt forum at AOL that the effect changed depending on whether or not there was food in the freezer. He said it sounded better when there was food in the freezer along with the photographs. Another reported that it sounded even better if the food in the freezer was treated with Peter Belt's "Electret Creme."QuoteWell I am planning to buy 2 CLCs in a couple of months. I will be the first to post here if they do nothing except keep time.Why not try putting some photographs of yourself in your freezer? It would cost you a lot less than buying two CLS. And according to Carol Clark and Geoff Kait, it significantly improves the sound of not only your system, but every system you listen to. That's because the tweak "treats" the listener, not the system. That's also the function of the CLC according to Geoff. It treats you, not your system.se
I also hardly think that the people at Postive Feedback can be so easily be conned.
Well I am planning to buy 2 CLCs in a couple of months. I will be the first to post here if they do nothing except keep time.
Rather than have an open mind I am rather surprised at the reaction some of you have towards the CLC. I also hardly think that the people at Postive Feedback can be so easily be conned. So I suppose Shun Mock discs also don't work and are another con? Why shoot the messenger? If you have not tried them are you in any position to comment? Well I am planning to buy 2 CLCs in a couple of months. I will be the first to post here if they do nothing except keep time.
You're making this up right? Or tell me it was an April Fools joke. Please
Why not try putting some photographs of yourself in your freezer?
The Clever Little Clocks won an Award here.... http://www.positive-feedback.com/Issue28/brutus.htm
QuoteWhy not try putting some photographs of yourself in your freezer?Hmmmm.....how cold does the freezer have to be ?
Hey, I own the CLC, and the pebbles, Geoff is a cool dude, who actually has scientific backup....... :drool:I used to be like you guy's who have never tried things, but still have opinions. I am NOT that way, nomo
By awarding that stupid clock, Positive Feedback hurts its credibility with me rather than adding to the Clock's credibility, which I imagine was their intention. HiFiSoundGuy was sent here to antagonize, entertain or demean us. Can't tell which but nothing he has to say will ever be taken seriously by this reader. I have too much experience with value, reality, products and function to fall for such nonsense. Reading questions and comments in various audio forums makes me aware that many fundamental misunderstandings exist in audio. But most of it is failed logic or just confusion conferred by advertising or intiated by the likewise confused. This instance represents outright fraud in my opinion. Like religion, it traffics in subjective or unverifiable claims that cannot be disproven. Certain unfortunate persons exist who see the failure to disprove as being a form of proof. These fools are the customer base for stuff like the clock.
Isn't it enough that I tolerate your spelling and grammar? The rules here forbid religious discussion so I don't think I can elaborate for your edification. Suffice it to say that the majority of the nation thinks McDonalds is food and that Bose makes great speakers. All the majority brings to any discussion is numbers. My 16 year old son was involved with a young lady whose parents are quite religious. She wanted to talk about it but Dewey was unwilling. Finally he told her that god is an imaginary friend for adults. I was very proud of him for displaying that degree of perception so young. They split up.
