[DVV]

Isn't it HIGH time all this was over?

Accusations and counter-accusations will get nobody anywhere. I know I don't have to read this if I don't like it, and that's true, but far too much time by far too many people is being wasted here.

Don't you people think you'd be much more useful - and fun - elsewhere?

Just a thought.

Cheers,
DVV

[chuck josephson]

Chuck says "In the future I will respond to nobody".       Put those pictures back up Chuck and I'll guarantee you'll get your 10,000 hits. If only CE was here to see them....

Who is CE?Why do you want the pictures back?Would you like to see pictures of my fabulous home made bass
traps?They cost under 10 dollars look good and can make everybodys system sound twice as good!All I
ever wanted to do was help.How come none of you care about my wire damping ?Wires are the veins and arteries of your system .When they are loose the signal
is contaminated .Nothing you people talk about amounts
to a fig .You spend all that money on cables for nothing.
What sense does that make.Prove me wrong.None of
you really care about sound.You just want to BS about
different components which will always sound bad so you keep changing them which is what the dealers and manufactures want you to do.I have been doing it for
20 years and am the best in the world at it.And still this
darkness prevails .My little candle has been rudely snuffed out.What vanity what foolish children you are!!!
If you want the pictures so bad ,I will send you a set of
8x10 glossies for $100.Ill even autograph them with a personal  message of your choice.ACT NOW!

[chuck josephson]

Chuck says "In the future I will respond to nobody".       Put those pictures back up Chuck and I'll guarantee you'll get your 10,000 hits. If only CE was here to see them....

Who is CE?Why do you want the pictures back?Would you like to see pictures of my fabulous home made bass
traps?They cost under 10 dollars look good and can make everybodys system sound twice as good!All I
ever wanted to do was help.How come none of you care about my wire damping ?Wires are the veins and arteries of your system .When they are loose the signal
is contaminated .Nothing you people talk about amounts
to a fig .You spend all that money on cables for nothing.
What sense does that make.Prove me wrong.None of
you really care about sound.You just want to BS about
different components which will always sound bad so you keep changing them which is what the dealers and manufactures want you to do.I have been doing it for
20 years and am the best in the world at it.And still this
darkness prevails .My little candle has been rudely snuffed out.What vanity what foolish children you are!!!
PS I thought I told you that I dont like the childish little
yellowballs when addressing myself .Did you forget??

[Psychicanimal]

Would you like to see pictures of my fabulous home made bass traps?They cost under 10 dollars look good and can make everybodys system sound twice as good!All I ever wanted to do was help.How come none of you care about my wire damping ?Wires are the veins and arteries of yo  ...

( 2 + 2 = 4 )  

[chuck josephson]

Would you like to see pictures of my fabulous home made bass traps?They cost under 10 dollars look good and can make everybodys system sound twice as good!All I ever wanted to do was help.How come none of you care about my wire damping ?Wires are the veins and arteries of yo  ...

( 2 + 2 = 4 )  

4728 hits!Where
are these people?What about the screws?

[Psychicanimal]

OK Chuckie,

Here's where there is the disgression: AESTHETICS.

Here's the link to the system of someone older that I also talk on the phone with every now and then and has helped me with my own system:

http://forum.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/fr.pl?vaslt&1022712214

The interconnects, speaker cables and power cords he uses are *liquid filled* (the interconnects are about 2" in diameter); his rack is attached to a ceiling and floor beam, so it is actually part of the house.  Acoustic treatments have been professionally installed according to room node analysis.

As you guys can see, Albert Porter also has a Clear Image T4 and that's how I started learning about the effects of vibration on electricity.  Albert is very aware that vibration affects electricity and that room acoustics are extremely important.

So what Chuckie is saying is correct.  There is a lack of discussion of really relevant subjects in this forum.  Chatting about equipment swapping or cable this vs that is like the hamster running in the wheel inside the cage.  Is he the best in the world?  No, but he's evidently worked a lot on this subject.  Now he needs to learn from Albert Porter on how to combine aesthetics and performance.  It can be done and that's what I'm striving for within my budget constraints and semi nomadic lifestyle.  Now you guys need to put your prejudices aside and start changing your mentality--for your own good.  I know what I'm doing and I have the support of some heavy duty people, like Mr. Porter, Dejan, Deano, Sean...

Go ahead, Chuckie and start a thread with your DIY bass trap design!

[byteme]

Who is CE?Why do you want the pictures back?Would you like to see pictures of my fabulous home made bass
traps?They cost under 10 dollars look good and can make everybodys system sound twice as good!All I
ever wanted to do was help.How come none of you care about my wire damping ?Wires are the veins and arteries of your system .When they are loose the signal
is contaminated .Nothing you people talk about amounts
to a fig .You spend all that money on cables for nothing.
What sense does that make.Prove  ...

At least three times now in this thread you've promised?  threatened?  swore? you were done here and going away.  Do EVERYONE a freaking favor and either spill your "genius" on us by starting a new post on wire damping, etc. in which you outline - whitepaper style - your tweaks in this vein or GO THE HELL AWAY already.

The longer you stay here on this thread refusing to answer direct questions about your tweaks and bitching about yellow balls and the "attacks" against you, professing that you are some kind of musical deity who has "Musical SOOPER GENIUS" Wile E. Coyote style on his mailbox the less credibility you have.

I think the most humorous thing about this thread thus far is that you come into OUR community, start out vague as hell and then give no respect to anyone who doesn't play by YOUR rules.

[Psychicanimal]

At least three times now in this thread you've promised?  threatened?  swore? you were done here and going away.  Do EVERYONE a freaking favor and either spill your "genius" on us by starting a new post on wire damping, etc. in which you outline - whitepaper style - your tweaks in this vein or GO THE HELL AWAY already.

The longer you stay here on this thread refusing to answer direct questions about your tweaks and bitching about yellow balls and the "attacks" against you, professing that you are some ki ...

That's right--start a proper, coherent, well documented thread or adiós...

[nathanm]

[chuck josephson]

At least three times now in this thread you've promised?  threatened?  swore? you were done here and going away.  Do EVERYONE a freaking favor and either spill your "genius" on us by starting a new post on wire damping, etc. in which you outline - whitepaper style - your tweaks in this vein or GO THE HELL AWAY already.

The longer you stay here on this thread refusing to answer direct questions about your tweaks and bitching about yellow balls and the "attacks" against you, professing that you are some ki ...

No body  ever asked me anything about my tweaks.I explained all about it to Psycho on the phone .Im waiting for him to try it.Truthfully you really dont  want to learn anything anyway.Why do you need to use profanity?I dont take
orders from you or anybody else.Ill go away after you.
Lets go away together.

[chuck josephson]

At least three times now in this thread you've promised?  threatened?  swore? you were done here and going away.  Do EVERYONE a freaking favor and either spill your "genius" on us by starting a new post on wire damping, etc. in which you outline - whitepaper style - your tweaks in this vein or GO THE HELL AWAY already.

The longer you stay here on this thread refusing to answer direct questions about your tweaks and bitching about yellow balls and the "attacks" against you, professing that you are some ki ...

No body  ever asked me anything about my tweaks.I explained all about it to Psycho on the phone .Im waiting for him to try it.Truthfully you really dont  want to learn anything anyway.Why do you need to use profanity?I dont take
orders from you or anybody else.Ill go away after you.
Lets go away together.In the past hour the views just up
300 .Its close to 5000.Do want me to desert  all my fans?
Who is Seinfeld anyway.

[chuck josephson]

Would you like to see pictures of my fabulous home made bass traps?They cost under 10 dollars look good and can make everybodys system sound twice as good!All I ever wanted to do was help.How come none of you care about my wire damping ?Wires are the veins and arteries of yo  ...

( 2 + 2 = 4 )  

Psycho I spent an
hour on the phone with you explaining the dampening to
you in detail.You said you were interested  .I also talked
about the screws on the speakers which would take a minute to check but nothing happened on that either.and
also the bass traps .How much more specific can I be.I can put up a picture of the traps with detailed info how to construct ,if anybody wants them.Did you ever go
to audio tweaks.com like I told you?You have to try things to evaluate them .Adios to you too.

[byteme]

No body  ever asked me anything about my tweaks.I explained all about it to Psycho on the phone .Im waiting for him to try it.Truthfully you really dont  want to learn anything anyway.Why do you need to use profanity?I dont take
orders from you or anybody else.Ill go away after you.
Lets go away together.

Uh, noone ever asked about your tweaks?  How about these -

Cyounkman - I'll bite...  What's your methodology?

Tyson - Yes, I'd be very interested in hearing about your methodolgy. I think posting it here would be the best way to reach the other people here at AC that would also be interested. Thanks!

Psychicanimal - So, there you go, chill out and start telling us how you built the room lenses (resonators).

eric the red - Hey Chuck-why don't you post the pictures again and explain your tweaking methodology to all of us?

Nathanm - Just make a post describing your room and what you've done.

Byteme - starting a new post on wire damping, etc. in which you outline - whitepaper style - your tweaks in this vein

Psychicanimal - That's right--start a proper, coherent, well documented thread or adiós...

ALL pulled from this thread after only a brief scan, I'm sure there are more.  And yet you continue on this public forum where the idea is to post something so everyone can learn from it and still demand people call you rather than posting and sharing your knowledge en mass?  So far, you've "enlightened" ONE person.  You brag about getting to 10,000 hits yet you've reached only ONE person!  Pretty lame odds.  I hope you were more effective as a teacher or musician.  

As for wanting to learn, I can speak for myself in saying of course I do - why else would I be here on the circle except to share in the exchange of knowledge?  I continue to wait for your contribution!

Profanity?  Hell, and bitching are profanity?  Please...

As for the orders, my suggestion that you put up or shut up once and for all has been echoed here numerous times.  Use some of your Madd Ejucasunal skillz to enlighten all of us once and for all.  Perhaps then more of us than yourself will begin to think you're a genius and not just some lame troll...

[chuck josephson]

Uh, noone ever asked about your tweaks?  How about these -

Cyounkman - I'll bite...  What's your methodology?

Tyson - Yes, I'd be very interested in hearing about your methodolgy. I think posting it here would be the best way to reach the other people here at AC that would also be interested. Thanks!

Psychicanimal - So, there you go, chill out and start telling us how you built the room lenses (resonators).

eric the red - Hey Chuck-why don't you post the pictures again and explain your tweakin ...

OK Im
running out of jokes so this is all going to end here.Im going to give you enough specifics so you can try some
things .Nobody likes the weights so we will forget them.
Any wires that con be manually moved are causing .damage sonically.Using wire clips I screw them on my floor every 2 inches .If you cant do that lay a heavy board down and do it on that .You han hide it with a pretty fabric or rug.Vertical hanging interconnetcts
are taped to a wood dowel thus restrained.Restrain wires entering speakers any way possible .If you cant screw use velcro.This goes for all wires including AC.Mortite clay around all plugs RCA  and AC.Ceiling diffusors are made from insulation material  purchased from Apache co. in Miami  FL Light and easy to cut and paint .Can be glued or velcroed to ceiling .Resonators
made from PVC pipes 1to 8 inches in dia. 5feet long.Spray to your clolor.Drill.hole on top Hang a few inches from ceiling .Bass traps are made from 8 inch cardboard Sonotubes 4 ft.high  filled with rumpled paper
towels ,I wrap them with colored felt .Must be raised at
least one inch off the floor .I have 2 screwed down the other 3 have legs and are portable..I dampen AC  receptacles by framing them with 1x2 pieces of steel and
gluing them on .I even do this to the main circut breaker box.Binding posts on speakers stink.I broke one so I went behind the posts soldered 1 ft. 10 ga. wire brought
it out the back ,cut off the plugs of my 6000dollar Transparent Reference speaker cables and soldered my
speakers to it.Fantastic.I use 25 lb. bags of lead shot on
my components.Can be covered with nic fabric.By the way sonotubes can be found by cement bags at Home Depot.All this is the tip of the ice berg.By the way ,The
ceiling spaces  and the walls of my home are filled with
1000 cands of expanding foam.What else can I tell you?You can have a field day with this I am sure but I had to
answer you.I really dont care any more .Its a waste of
my valuable time and now its really over.Good Bye Forever.

[Psychicanimal]

Psycho I spent an
hour on the phone with you explaining the dampening to
you in detail.You said you were interested  .I also talked
about the screws on the speakers which would take a minute to check but nothing happened on that either.and
also the bass traps .How much more specific can I be.I can put up a picture of the traps with detailed info how to construct ,if anybody wants them.Did you ever go
to audio tweaks.com like I told you?You have to try things to evaluate them .Adios to you too.

I am working on the project--but first I have to have a wire to dampen, wouldn't you say?

http://www.audioasylum.com/audio/cables/messages/80151.html

[byteme]

Chuck,

Well, thanks for sharing.  I have a couple questions.  What is moretite clay?  Available at home depot, etc?  Do you put this around the rca connector male/female union?  A thin strip?  thicker strip?  Where do you put it on AC plugs - would it go around the plug and onto the wall plate?  How about for IEC connectors, just spread around and onto the back of the equipment?

Securing cabling is very straightforward, however, I'm guessing you'll still have joint in the vertical where the dowel gets up to the back of the component, how do you deal with that?  Are your floors carpeted?  Securing the cabling to the carpet seems to fly in the face of the folks who say that the carpet can act as a dielectric and affect sound and thus necessitate cable risers - do you notice any effect from this?

Lastly, the bass traps sound easy to do.  Where would these be most effectively placed?  Corners?  Out in the room?

Again, thanks!

Brian.

[nathanm]

So everyone can read it:

Ok, I'm running out of jokes so this is all going to end here.  I'm going to give you enough specifics so you can try some things.  Nobody likes the weights so we will forget them.  

Any wires that con be manually moved are causing damage sonically.  Using wire clips I screw them on my floor every 2 inches.  If you can't do that lay a heavy board down and do it on that.  You can hide it with a pretty fabric or rug.  Vertical hanging interconnetcts are taped to a wood dowel and thus restrained.  Restrain wires entering speakers any way possible.  If you can't screw use velcro.  This goes for all wires including AC.  Mortite clay around all plugs RCA and AC.

Ceiling diffusors are made from insulation material purchased from Apache Co. in Miami, FL.  It's light and easy to cut and paint .  Can be glued or velcroed to ceiling.  Resonators are made from PVC pipes 1 to 8 inches in dia. five feet long.  Spray to your desired color.  Drill hole on top.  Hang a few inches from ceiling.

Bass traps are made from 8 inch cardboard Sonotubes 4 ft. high filled with rumpled paper towels.  I wrap them with colored felt .  Must be raised at least one inch off the floor.  I have 2 screwed down the other 3 have legs and are portable.  I dampen AC receptacles by framing them with 1x2 pieces of steel and gluing them on.  I even do this to the main circuit breaker box.  

Binding posts on speakers stink.  I broke one so I went behind the posts and  soldered 1 ft. 10ga wire, brought it out the back, cut off the plugs of my 6000 dollar Transparent Reference speaker cables and soldered my speakers to it.  Fantastic.  I use 25 lb. bags of lead shot on my components.  Can be covered with nice fabric.  By the way, sonotubes can be found by cement bags at Home Depot.  All this is the tip of the iceberg.  

By the way the ceiling spaces and the walls of my home are filled with 1000 cans of expanding foam.  What else can I tell you? You can have a field day with this I am sure but I had to answer you.  I really dont care any more.  It's a waste of my valuable time and now it's really over.  Good Bye Forever.

[chuck josephson]

Chuck,

Well, thanks for sharing.  I have a couple questions.  What is moretite clay?  Available at home depot, etc?  Do you put this around the rca connector male/female union?  A thin strip?  thicker strip?  Where do you put it on AC plugs - would it go around the plug and onto the wall plate?  How about for IEC connectors, just spread around and onto the back of the equipment?

Securing cabling is very straightforward, however, I'm guessing you'll still have joint in the vertical where the dowel gets ...

You know Brian You have to use
your own creativity with all this and its taken me years to work it out for myself.Mortite is clay rope used for insulation,its purpose seal out the air and vibrations in th socket.The dowels go from the upper shelf to the lower
one then tape your wires  with electrical tape.Suspending the wire is crap because it doesnt dampen internal and external vibrations.I secure the dowels with epoxy putty.Make a couple of traps along and alittle ahead of  your speakers remember  to raise
them 1or2 inches off the floor.I  can hear I f  Ihave missed  acouple inches of speaker wire when fixed ,its
better.Im tired of all this typing if  you dont think its worth the price of a phone call youre on your own.

[Tonto Yoder]

Chuck,

Well, thanks for sharing.  I have a couple questions.  What is moretite clay?  Available at home depot, etc?  

Mortite is window insulation putty.
http://www.efi.org/products/weather/mortite.html

[chuck josephson]

So everyone can read it:

Ok, I'm running out of jokes so this is all going to end here.  I'm going to give you enough specifics so you can try some things.  Nobody likes the weights so we will forget them.  

Any wires that con be manually moved are causing damage sonically.  Using wire clips I screw them on my floor every 2 inches.  If you can't do that lay a heavy board down and do it on that.  You can hide it with a pretty fabric or rug.  Vertical hanging interconnetcts are taped to a wood dowel and ...

I thank you for your help Brother Nathan. Looks much better  now.