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I actually held an Intelligent Chip in my hand, but the experiment I had in mind would have consumed all the "charges", so we put it aside. However, I concluded that the chip wasn't large enough (they are tiny!) to hold enough power to allow them to read any disc information straight through the metal of a CD player case, so it's impossible for them to recognise disks they've already treated (as the manufacturer claims) - let alone read and rewrite a CD in any way, shape or form. So apparently, they have ESP. In which case, I hope it wasn't offended by what I was thinking when I looked at it.
Intelligent Chip... lol. What a joke. I mean, can anybody really seriously claim that this voodoo works? Can they measure it? Crap like this is why people hate audiophiles. :roll:
But none of that matters to scalawags who dismiss something they were never taught in school as "voodoo", "snake oil" and "shit". By the way, gentlemen, a course in vocabulary expansion might benefit you all.
However, the blind, pinata swinging based solely on one's inability to comprehend the forces at work gets no credence from me. Calling others out as stupid with an eye-rolling emoticon doesn't heighten standing, intelligence, or strength of argument either.
This isn't really what they're claiming for them. They're claiming esoteric quantum effects with no proof the experimental work actually applies to an Intelligent Chip used with a CD and CD player.
The funny thing about this is that eventually, the source of every single belief is something unproven & unprovable. The source, at the very root, of every belief, no matter what that belief is, is human choice. Eventually the "pre"-supposition that supports every belief, is thin air, human imagination, whatever. The best word to describe it is choice.
...Fortunately, such sophomoric attitudinizing carries no weight here...
This insults & offends some people, as I'm sure it will here, because when you get right down to it, there is absolutely no difference whatsover between religious "faith" & "science". This is because, as described above, faith is eventually the very source of every belief.
The funny thing about this is that eventually, the source of every single belief is something unproven & unprovable.
This explains why each & every "scientific" measurement has a range of error. An "inch" or a "millimeter" has no absolute value. None. It is purely abstract.
However, I grant you that if everything is a matter of perspective, if there are no possible absolutes, and it's all based in human imagination as you say, then there's no point in my commenting on Intelligent Chips. In fact, that there would be absolutely no basis for anyone to discuss any aspect of audio with anyone else. Why bother? Audio is sense-data, a pure perception. From what you say, there's no possible way to establish a shared frame of reference, so there's no point in discussing anyone's perceptions. I mean imagine you're trying to sell someone something: what do you say? "I think speaker X is worthwhile, but frankly, for all you really know, I'm a Japanese-speaking pygmy penguin, and this speaker you listened to is really a porcupine, and you can't know otherwise because perception is only a choice, so maybe my opinion is not really very relevant." On the other hand, if there is something called reality, and if humans are capable of reason, then I can't imagine anyone objecting to attempts to understand, explain, prove, disprove and categorize. And in such a world, certainly "charlatan" is one of the worst possible things to be. So please hold me excused while I question - directly, pointedly and without pulling punches - things manufactured by those I believe to be charalatans. You might as well, because I'll do it, very cheerfully, until I'm proven wrong. ...
Definition of abstract,Considered apart from concrete existence: an abstract concept. http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=abstract Another Tautology. ["An "inch" or a "millimeter" has no absolute value.None. It is purely abstract."] This assumption has to be true in order for the argument to be valid. An abstract has no concrete basis in reality. It is, by it's nature, an unquantifiable concept. Measurements are the essence of a concrete concept and are a quantification of reality. Both the inch and the millimeter have an absolute value. See definition of meter. http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=meter Whether a scientific measurement has a range of error or an absolute value does not make it an abstract concept or subject to the individuals whim as to it's value. If this were the case no discipline of science dependent on a mathematical understanding of physical relationships between things would be practical. Mechanical engineering is one example. Whether or not a bridge stays up is not subject to one saying the numbers are what ever I want them to be. If you get them wrong it falls down. ...
The fact is that scientists design bridges, airplanes, jets, cars, tires, spacehips, all kinds of stuff. How many errors of these scientists would I have to list here to support my claims in this thread? Does the Firestone/Ford debacle, several hundred dead people, & several billion in damages ring any bells out there? Bridgestone builds F1 championship winning tires & they also were responsible for the Firestone tires that resulted in many SUV deaths. Was it Bridgestone's fault or Ford for not warning people that PSI's are more critical in SUV's vs. passenger cars, & SUV's handle like crap because they are too tall & must not be driven like passenger cars? The courts never really decided, again, because of duelling experts. Ford paid scientists to blame the tires, Bridgestone scientists said the SUV's handle like crap & require critical PSI monitoring. In the end I got nice little pressure warning monitors on my SUV........
Eventually you must absolutely take something for granted (faith) to believe anything you believe. You can not prove everything. The nature of belief is that there is a presupposition in front of the belief. When you keep going back to the source you eventually must take something for granted. There is a term called "self-evident". The very words describe something that the person believes does not require justification. You either automatically believe it or others who believe will automaticallay believe there is something wrong with those who do not believe. They are automatically considererd wrong.
Or alternatively, "Call it snake oil, say they're full of shit... whatever. It's not scientific."There may be perfectly good reasons to hate audiophiles, but there are plenty more reasons to hate people who sneer at others, especially when no audition has taken place. Fortunately, such sophomoric attitudinizing carries no weight here.Among those hundreds who have heard -- excuse me, been fooled into thinking they heard -- the Intelligent Chip, and have gone on record with it, we may number Steve Har ...
Yeah, yeah. Some possible ideas:1) It recomputes and rewrites bits. (I know that's impossible. It's a question of available energy.)2) They have a hitherto unknown quantum effect (they've been quoted as claiming it's quantum, but not in writing on their web site) that recovers lost information, in defiance of Information Theory. If they have a quantum technique for regenerating lost information (according to their website, it was lost during the cutting process, so it really is lost: forget e ...
This explains why each & every "scientific" measurement has a range of error. An "inch" or a "millimeter" has no absolute value. None. It is purely abstract. In the end, it's whatever you say it is.