New BG neo 10 planars

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Danny Richie

Re: New BG neo 10 planars
« Reply #60 on: 30 Apr 2010, 02:45 am »
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Would an array of ( Neo8 per side mated to (10 or 12) M130 or M165 first order @1000Hz sound good?  Or do I need to use a second order filter?

A first order network will not work out well with those drivers, but I do already have kits very similar to that. They are the LS-6 and LS-9 kits.

Danny Richie

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« Reply #61 on: 30 Apr 2010, 02:51 am »
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I REALLY need to hear some line source arrays with the different Neo combo's 


I'll have something on another level for you real soon. I hear that prototype cabinets are on the water now. Hang in there. This is going to be a year for setting new standards.

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« Reply #62 on: 30 Apr 2010, 03:03 am »
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« Reply #63 on: 30 Apr 2010, 01:53 pm »
 :o  Uh-oh, kickin' it up a notch yet again...
I'm flying to China tomorrow, so I'll scan the water for the cargo ship with your prototype cabs.  :wink:

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Re: New BG neo 10 planars
« Reply #64 on: 30 Apr 2010, 11:45 pm »


I'll have something on another level for you real soon. I hear that prototype cabinets are on the water now. Hang in there. This is going to be a year for setting new standards.

Thanks for the heads up.  I'll wait.

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Re: New BG neo 10 planars
« Reply #65 on: 30 Apr 2010, 11:51 pm »
A first order network will not work out well with those drivers, but I do already have kits very similar to that. They are the LS-6 and LS-9 kits.

I thought so, but then I saw the truncated drivers on the LS-6/9 and thought that they were different than the "M" drivers.  Do you sell those drivers separately?

One more question:  How would an array of M165 drivers work as bass towers?  If equalized would I get 3 octaves from 20Hz to 80Hz flat?  Thanks.

Danny Richie

Re: New BG neo 10 planars
« Reply #66 on: 30 Apr 2010, 11:55 pm »
You don't have to try and make a non-ideal driver work for that application. I've already design a specific woofer just for that application. They are used in the LS series kits. I have them in stock.

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Re: New BG neo 10 planars
« Reply #67 on: 1 May 2010, 02:02 am »
You don't have to try and make a non-ideal driver work for that application. I've already design a specific woofer just for that application. They are used in the LS series kits. I have them in stock.

(I was planning on an arrray of (8x) 10" drivers per side, but the size would be too big for me to build and handle by myself.)  If I buy the woofers from the LS series and build bass towers for my existing setup, would the bass towers be usable for your new design(s) planned for later this year?

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« Reply #68 on: 23 Sep 2010, 06:02 pm »
I do have some Neo 10 designs on the drawing board and plenty of units here to test with. However, right now they will not be made available for individual sale.

I understand that BG has relinquish the OEM for the Neo 10.  I that true?

http://meniscusaudio.com/midranges-c-121.html

Danny Richie

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« Reply #69 on: 23 Sep 2010, 06:16 pm »
Yep, they decided to test the waters with it.

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« Reply #70 on: 23 Sep 2010, 07:33 pm »
Yep, they decided to test the waters with it.

How would two Neo 10s work in a point source using your servo dipole woofer and the Neo 8 as a tweeter?

http://www.audiocircle.com/index.php?topic=85662.0

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Re: New BG neo 10 planars
« Reply #71 on: 23 Sep 2010, 07:47 pm »
How would two Neo 10s work in a point source using your servo dipole woofer and the Neo 8 as a tweeter?

http://www.audiocircle.com/index.php?topic=85662.0

The Neo3 would be a better choice for a tweeter. 

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Re: New BG neo 10 planars
« Reply #72 on: 23 Sep 2010, 08:50 pm »
The Neo3 would be a better choice for a tweeter.

Yes, but for a point source wouldn't give better vertical dispersion?

Danny Richie

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« Reply #73 on: 23 Sep 2010, 09:37 pm »
The Neo 8's have limited vertical dispersion. That is why the Neo 3 is a better candidate.

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« Reply #74 on: 23 Sep 2010, 10:06 pm »
The Neo 8's have limited vertical dispersion. That is why the Neo 3 is a better candidate.

Misread the info, thanks.

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Re: New BG neo 10 planars
« Reply #75 on: 23 Sep 2010, 11:37 pm »
The first few pages of this thread is full of greek.  :scratch:  Are there any books or resources that one could read to learn more about speaker design and what all the jargon means in these forums?

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« Reply #76 on: 24 Sep 2010, 04:03 am »
The first few pages of this thread is full of greek.  :scratch:  Are there any books or resources that one could read to learn more about speaker design and what all the jargon means in these forums?

"The Loud Speaker Design Cookbook" by Vance Dickason
was my first book.  I still have the 1987 edition.

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« Reply #77 on: 9 Sep 2011, 04:34 am »
I'm considering stacking 4 of these Neo10 vertically next to a WTW of TD12S and TPL-150H.  What kind of issues can I expect from this setup?  What kind of vertical dispersion from the stack of 4 Neo10's?  Any recommended crossover points to avoid certain issues?  Thanks.  Zac.

Danny Richie

Re: New BG neo 10 planars
« Reply #78 on: 9 Sep 2011, 08:24 pm »
I'm considering stacking 4 of these Neo10 vertically next to a WTW of TD12S and TPL-150H.  What kind of issues can I expect from this setup?  What kind of vertical dispersion from the stack of 4 Neo10's?  Any recommended crossover points to avoid certain issues?  Thanks.  Zac.

Zac, I take it that was you I just chatted with on the phone about this. I hope I answered your questions and it was nice chatting with you.

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« Reply #79 on: 5 Dec 2014, 08:28 am »
Danny,

I understand the specs on the Neo 10 say they go down to 150hz. Not sure how
powerful they are at 150hz.

I have heard of people using the Neo 10 down to 200,250 and 300 hz, without too much trouble.
(At low/medium listening levels, not rock concert level.)

From what I have gleaned in information, is that they go down in SPL dramatically when used singularly, down around 150hz to 300hz. Obviously using eight Neo 10's would change the lower frequencies SPL. But, most people can't afford the cost of eight Neo 10's.

What if a person was to use two NEO 10's with a single NEO 3, MTM configuration, open baffle, 12" wide X 48" tall.

If you used two Neo 10's and crossed them with the Neo 3 at 250hz, that should give a person enough SPL at that lower range, wouldn't it ?

thanks..