Sad that the owners of the BDP-3 help kill the product.

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Francois_Tardif

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Re: Sad that the owners of the BDP-3 help kill the product.
« Reply #20 on: 6 Oct 2025, 01:44 pm »
I’m also a loyal Bryston customer and really value their products — I own a BDP-3, a BDA-3, and a B135.

Still, I think it’s unfair to blame users for the end of the BDP-3. The feedback about Manic Moose or the lack of updates wasn’t unreasonable — it simply reflected a need for proper software support.

Loving a brand doesn’t mean ignoring its weaknesses. Bryston’s hardware is excellent, but many users were rightly frustrated by the stagnant software.
It wasn’t impatience that caused the issue, but internal priorities and costs.

That said, I still use Manic Moose, and it meets my needs just fine. :)

Twiga

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Re: Sad that the owners of the BDP-3 help kill the product.
« Reply #21 on: 7 Oct 2025, 01:38 pm »
Ditto here.

But, we are still waiting to hear back from James (or anyone else at Bryston) on the status of the successor to MM (OS3). Is it truly dead?  :scratch: :scratch: :scratch:

dubkarma

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Re: Sad that the owners of the BDP-3 help kill the product.
« Reply #22 on: 7 Oct 2025, 07:33 pm »
Uh, NO, it does not!!  There is nothing unreasonable for Bryston streamer customers to expect the company to uphold its commitments to release a new user interface, As usual this is another completely non sequitur post from a well known wanna-be fan boy.   If one reads the article, Auralic is quitting because the US is a major market and the Trump tariffs make it impossible for the company to survive if its sales are severely reduced.  My BPD-3  replaced an Auralic streamer. (Still being used in a 2nd system.) The Auralic was a good streamer. The BPD-3 is much better.  The Auralic user interface was/is much better than MM, although it is IOS based.

I guess I'm stupid. I have two BDP-3*, each of which streams from local files from my NAS. I use Roon as the control software. Everything works great, and the fidelity is as high as other devices I've tried which cost twice as much. Plus the BDP-3, unlike many streamers, offers AES and SPDIF digital outputs as well as USB 2.0 and 3.0.

[* And also two 10B-LR, two 4B3, one 14B-SST2, one BDA-3, one BP-26 and one BP-25.]

abk456

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Re: Sad that the owners of the BDP-3 help kill the product.
« Reply #23 on: 9 Oct 2025, 01:06 am »
I don't think that anyone here is complaining about the sound. In fact quite the opposite but that's the frustration. Beautiful sound with an interface like the old Wang green screen (now I'm showing my age).

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Re: Sad that the owners of the BDP-3 help kill the product.
« Reply #24 on: 9 Oct 2025, 11:27 am »
Bryston missed the boat on the BDP by not partnering with an established firmware solution for their streamer.  My remaining two BDP-2 still are used in secondary systems with Roon.  They have been reliable in comparison to the BDP-1s I had.   I have several streamers, amongst them a Auralic Altair G2.1.  Hopefully it continues to function without issue since the company appears now defunct.


cmccaul

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Re: Sad that the owners of the BDP-3 help kill the product.
« Reply #25 on: 9 Oct 2025, 11:28 am »
I don't think that anyone here is complaining about the sound. In fact quite the opposite but that's the frustration. Beautiful sound with an interface like the old Wang green screen (now I'm showing my age).
:lol: :lol: :lol:

So true!

gbaby

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Re: Sad that the owners of the BDP-3 help kill the product.
« Reply #26 on: 9 Oct 2025, 05:18 pm »
I guess I'm stupid. I have two BDP-3*, each of which streams from local files from my NAS. I use Roon as the control software. Everything works great, and the fidelity is as high as other devices I've tried which cost twice as much. Plus the BDP-3, unlike many streamers, offers AES and SPDIF digital outputs as well as USB 2.0 and 3.0.

[* And also two 10B-LR, two 4B3, one 14B-SST2, one BDA-3, one BP-26 and one BP-25.]

You are not stupid, but wise. You can appreciate the product for its sound and outputs for its price. There are others who cannot appreciate the quality of the product and criticized it and the company so heavily about the interface that it resulted in sales being killled for a perfectly good sounding product.  Chris Dayton tried to upgrade the interface to satisfy the Roon lovers, but apparently could not make it work the the different players from the BDP-1 to the BDP2 and 3 as well as the BR series. Others talked about how Bryston made a mistake not associating with other companies for the software. That is playing arm chair quarterback as things cost and the company was keeping everything in house to keep the cost reasonable. But, as most things in life, no good deed goes unpunished. The owners did, in fact, help kill the product, and by some of the comments in this thread, still continue to put the nail in its coffin. Sad.
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vonnie123

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Re: Sad that the owners of the BDP-3 help kill the product.
« Reply #27 on: 9 Oct 2025, 09:32 pm »
I made the suggestion to partner with a firmware company years ago.  They should have done that or modernized the firmware on their own.  Evolve or disappear.

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Re: Sad that the owners of the BDP-3 help kill the product.
« Reply #28 on: 9 Oct 2025, 09:45 pm »
snip... There are others who cannot appreciate the quality of the product and criticized it and the company so heavily about the interface that it resulted in sales being killled for a perfectly good sounding product.  Chris Dayton tried to upgrade the interface to satisfy the Roon lovers, but apparently could not make it work the the different players from the BDP-1 to the BDP2 and 3 aa well as the BR series. Others talked about how Bryston made a mistake not associating with other companies for the software. That is playing arm chair quarterback as things cost and the company was keeping everything in house to keep the cost reasonable. But, as most things in life, no good deed goes unpunished. The owners did, in fact, help kill the product, and by some of the comments in this thread, still continue to put the nail in its coffin. Sad.

This is simply utter nonsense.  BDP-3 owners did not kill the product, except maybe in someone's imagination. Perhaps a lack of reading comprehension of the referenced article,  or a lack of reading the article at all, are really the problem with the original post of this thread.  Had the original post article actually had anything to do with user interfaces, (which it did not!), there might have been a sliver of purpose to this read.  Had the title of the thread had anything whatsoever to do with the posted article, this might not seem so specious.   But no, we have a totally unnecessary negative thread reminding everyone of the lack of OS3.  Sadly a long history of this type of fact resistance.


gbaby

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Re: Sad that the owners of the BDP-3 help kill the product.
« Reply #29 on: Yesterday at 01:54 pm »
This is simply utter nonsense.  BDP-3 owners did not kill the product, except maybe in someone's imagination. Perhaps a lack of reading comprehension of the referenced article,  or a lack of reading the article at all, are really the problem with the original post of this thread.  Had the original post article actually had anything to do with user interfaces, (which it did not!), there might have been a sliver of purpose to this read.  Had the title of the thread had anything whatsoever to do with the posted article, this might not seem so specious.   But no, we have a totally unnecessary negative thread reminding everyone of the lack of OS3.  Sadly a long history of this type of fact resistance.

It has been said that a hit dog will holler. Sorry to say that this kind of selfish attitude is part of the problem. For one, you left out the word "help". There is no empathy for the company's struggle to keep afloat and selling its product for a price making it economically assessable for folks like me and others. There is a distinct difference between negativity and realism, and I am more of the latter. I have read some of the comments from James Tanner and I could tell some of us were really upsetting him to the point I thought he may have lost it for a brief period.  As a business man myself, I understand as folk you do the most for give you the most problems. Again, no good deed(s) go unpunished. I was the one who posted the article to illustrate how the Aurelic, went out of business although they had what some say is a great interface and sound. However, it cost so much that it did not sell, snd this, along with the tariffs, caused the company to eventually go out of business. I think you are the one with a cmprehension problem and the inability to use use deductive reasoning. If you did not understand the link between the article and my post, you should have made an inquiry.
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