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I don't need this kind of headline in front of me on AC.
Your observation that music is recorded in two channel is poignant, I must agree. I like to listen to two channel in a desktop system with JBL speakers that are patterned after the M2 monitor. I tried the Pro JBL monitors but prefer my class A amp. I like to try and replicate what the engineer heard in this setup using MQA files based on the master.But for sheer scale and dynamics of a LIVE event immersive is untouchable IMO.Evoke, it would be awesome if you could post some pics of your listening rooms, thanks!
I've read some of your comments about $100,000 speakers - I agree. While there are some good efforts I think the money is for the paint job - mostly kidding (so some degree). On the other end of the spectrum - your reference to 2 channel with a desk top system is just as far on the other end of the spectrum. As for my work, I'd have to dig in my files to see what I can publish. Most are high profile clienst where I sign non-disclosures. By the way, the mains typically cost $20,000 a channel, they require 4 channels of amps each for the electronic crossovers etc. If using an available room, close to $100,000 is not unusual for acoustics. Add a nice video projector for about $50K and you have a great set-up.Now, If you want something reasonable, 3 Eddies and 6 - 10 Rubys work quite well. I'd add 2 - 4 subwoofers, associated amps and a good surround pre-amp. Music and Film wise, it is quite spectacular.
I must be out of the loop. At work, 8-12 hours each day I listen to a $1.50 boom box I bought at a garage sale, too much dust here. Any system will sound better than this. I guess I am just a music lover more than an audiophile.But I like great audiophile systems also.
What would be your preference in a good surround pre-amp? Have you checked out auromatic yet?
Good question. First the prices DISGUST me. Finding a good mid-range product is not easy. When you consider speakers, subs and electronics (and then the monthly bill for DirecTV or whatever), it's pricey for anyone. I recall taking my entire first paycheck and spending all of it on a phono cartridge. Mind you, people like me exist - but thankfully there are medications that help with that kind of thinking LOLOdd to hear me say, but I think there are some really good surround receivers out there. Denon, Yamaha, Pioneer Ellite come to mind. I think around $1500 gets a great product. Yes there are receivers up to $6,000 - but at a certain point separates are called for. At that point a surround preamp gets way up there. I have a NuPrime that is no longer made. It listed for $3K. Quite a deal - but oddly, some receivers have more features. It's a really good preamp and meets 2 of my most important qualities (as do my speakers) - exceptional value for the money, and performance to match components MANY times the price.
Not my 2 channel; my 2 channel is so unorthodox it is extremely immersive audio! 1st off my background, been into audio (2 channel) for 45 years, many systems, much more money invested and more equipment than I have now for example I had custom made ACI Panoramas with stereo ACI Maestro subs all have been sold along with other equipment and now down to some old local speakers I have modified with a mix of drivers, 12” woofer, 4” mid & soft dome tweeter and Parts Express crossovers, a Van Alstine amp, a new NAD c368 and a modified Velodyne 18” cabinet with a Dayton 18” driver and Dayton SA1000 amp along with a Richard Gray 400 and all 10 gauge silver wire.This is hard to describe but my room is 18’ x 24’ x 9’ high. Well insulated with acoustical ceiling and concrete floor with ½ carpet, my Mancave. My speakers are on a shelf 8’ high and about 20’ apart towed in a bit and angled down a bit and my sub in on the floor in the middle BUT we stand or sit on bar stools (with backs) about 4 feet out into the room from the sound wall facing the opposite direction (speakers behind us) for DVD concerts because my new 65” TV is opposite the speakers and I tell you, when a concert is playing and the volume is up, the sound is all around! It’s like you are in the very first row and friends are wowed, and after like 10 years of this system I am still wowed! The sound is full and very immersive! And sometimes when I want to just listen, I will sit in front of the TV facing my system and the whole 24’ x 9’ wall is filled with sound and with wonderful imaging. It is the most fun and enjoyable system I’ve ever had, and I still look forward to my listening times, mostly Saturday nights.
I should have mentioned size as well, my room is all of probably 8 x 11, so its a fairly small space, much different probably than most listening areas. Circa 1800 houses tend to have pretty smallish living areas, because thats all they were ever meant for. Sounds like a pretty cool mancave!
I was going to post asking we not feed the troll, alas I am 14 pages too late. It is a shame witchdoctor started this topic and continues with such a caustic tone. There is a valid discussion to be had around the tradeoffs of 2-channel vs multi-channel but thoughtful discussions are hard to have when they are started with a flame thrower.I do find this quote from witchdoctors first post quite amusing “Do me a favor, buy 10 decent book shelf speakers and a sub and get yourself a Marantz or Denon receiver, get the Auro 3D upgrade and just leave it on. You can thank me later…” When I sold and installed stereo and multi-channel HiFi at the retail level the #1 concern of typical clients was the visibility of speakers in their living spaces. As a result a system with 10 speakers is what I call “bachelorhood enforcers”. Any potential mate will take one look at a 10 speaker array filling every wall, corner, and ceiling spot of a room then turn and run.
Yes it is, my home could burn down but I'd be devastated if my Mancave did!
One thing though, you gotta replace the barstools with loungers.
Although the title is a little forward in your face,
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