[gustavog]

Please let the customer decide on what they want to prefer SQ or convenience. MPD is SQ-wise probably the best, but when you put (sh)airplay on the BDP, then you also have the integrate Roon. Shairplay is a long way behind Roon and MPD in Sound Quality. I'm still very happy with my BDP1 with 2.22 firmware which supports Roon. Roon SQ is maybe 1% less than MPD, but convenience is +300%. For me a very easy choice!
Roon just works on the BDP1 and +75000 tracks on NAS. No problem whatsoever!

I ditched my BDP-1 altogether and am streaming directly to my Devialet. As Wim points out, the convenience is just too good to miss and the tradeoffs aren't that much (actually, Roon + Air + Devialet SQ is great). If Bryston ever officially releases RAAT for the BDP-1 I'll go back, but simply stated, most or all MPD UI's are far back in comparison.

[Krutsch]

+1 to most of the above. I am enjoying the new release of Soundirok, but it's not Roon.

I wish Bryston would give some clarity on the Roon issue; "...long way off" sounds like "ain't gonna happen."

[Yitshak]

The Bryston logo in Roon partner programs site page marked *
which stand for "coming soon". (for what it's valid for )

It sure be an absolute celebration to work User freindly Roon
And enjoy BDP SQ as a player.

without second thought I'll run for the Roon permanent licens,
Even twice for each unit if needed.

just hope the miracle for quality implementation
in the level of Bryston standards could be found.

 

[vcwatkins]

HI

Still a long way off.

james

Still wondering if it's still a long way off?

[James Tanner]

Still wondering if it's still a long way off?

Hi

I know they have a BDP-2 to play with but no word yet.

james

[Marius]

dl'd Soundirok.
Seems pretty hampered without the browsing by folder. Browsing by album/artist just renders a unusable list of random artists/albums, number et all. Probably caused by wrong tags on my part. Then again, i just need the functionality of browsing, as i do with MM.


Hope they will change and add it. I did ask


Cheers,
Marius

+1 to most of the above. I am enjoying the new release of Soundirok, but it's not Roon.

[Marius]

HI Ken,

Taking the Roon discussion out of the BDP Manic Moose thread over here for the Boards hygiene, please let me ask this:

- Ive enabled squeezelite, but can't find the BDP as an endpoint in Roon, consequently can't select it to play, where is it?
- secondly, i see a lot of albums that aren't mine, but can't find my own library on the BDP. Could you help me here to find it

- I've selected Roon on my mac to use that library, and also selected iTunes and Tidal. There are only a few albums on my Mac and iTunes library, and i'm on a trial period on Tidal. Still, i see 459 albums in Roon. Most of which are not in my own library. Where do they come from?

I do see why people are enthusiastic about Roons interface. It does look swell, and creates these cross references that could really make you lose your days For me it is still very confusing (and making me very cautious concerning privacy aspects), i hope you could help me get along a bit better.

Plex seems to have the same beauty visual beauty. It only shows one's own library, complete with background (and crosslinks if you want) it can find on criteria and fora/services the user can select. Soon is much faster though. (My NAS is walking its back feet as we say here, so Plex, which runs on it, has a hard time right now, hope to change that soon with a new NAS that has a bigger processor and more hard disk space...)

Cheers,
Marius

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+1 to most of the above. I am enjoying the new release of Soundirok, but it's not Roon.

I wish Bryston would give some clarity on the Roon issue; "...long way off" sounds like "ain't gonna happen."

[Krutsch]

HI Ken,

Taking the Roon discussion out of the BDP Manic Moose thread over here for the Boards hygiene, please let me ask this:

- Ive enabled squeezelite, but can't find the BDP as an endpoint in Roon, consequently can't select it to play, where is it?
- secondly, i see a lot of albums that aren't mine, but can't find my own library on the BDP. Could you help me here to find it

OK, one step at a time... in Roon, go into the Settings menu, which brings up a dialog over the main user interface.

Click on the "Setup" tab along the top.

At the very top of the tab's page, see: Enable Squeezebox Support. It's off by default, so click on 'Yes'.

Then, go into the "Audio" tab along the top and scroll down ... you should see the Bryston BDP.

See if that works and let me know.

Ken

[vonnie123]

HI Ken,

Taking the Roon discussion out of the BDP Manic Moose thread over here for the Boards hygiene, please let me ask this:

- Ive enabled squeezelite, but can't find the BDP as an endpoint in Roon, consequently can't select it to play, where is it?
- secondly, i see a lot of albums that aren't mine, but can't find my own library on the BDP. Could you help me here to find it

- I've selected Roon on my mac to use that library, and also selected iTunes and Tidal. There are only a few albums on my Mac and iTunes library, and i'm on a trial period on Tidal. Still, i see 459 albums in Roon. Most of which are not in my own library. Where do they come from?

I do see why people are enthusiastic about Roons interface. It does look swell, and creates these cross references that could really make you lose your days For me it is still very confusing (and making me very cautious concerning privacy aspects), i hope you could help me get along a bit better.

Plex seems to have the same beauty visual beauty. It only shows one's own library, complete with background (and crosslinks if you want) it can find on criteria and fora/services the user can select. Soon is much faster though. (My NAS is walking its back feet as we say here, so Plex, which runs on it, has a hard time right now, hope to change that soon with a new NAS that has a bigger processor and more hard disk space...)

Cheers,
Marius

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The Roon Tidal combo is awesome.  The BDP-1 in squeezelite mode sounds really good.  Hopefully Bryston gets the Roon Ready RAAT upgrade moving soon.  I am using HQPlayer with Roon and am happy with the sound delivery.  I also purchased a Roon Ready endpoint, so it will be interesting to compare the two.

[Marius]

Hi,

Squeezebox enabled: check
Bryston BDP: nope

on the BDP1, I've enabled Squeezelight

If i click + Add network device i get the option to ad HQPlayer (which i don't have i think )

 
 
 


I remember refusing external connections at first setup. Other than the option posted above, i can't find a setting to correct that. Might be it?

No Airplay devices either, while they are available:


 

Thanks,
Marius

OK, one step at a time... in Roon, go into the Settings menu, which brings up a dialog over the main user interface.

Click on the "Setup" tab along the top.

At the very top of the tab's page, see: Enable Squeezebox Support. It's off by default, so click on 'Yes'.

Then, go into the "Audio" tab along the top and scroll down ... you should see the Bryston BDP.

See if that works and let me know.

Ken

[Marius]

Bingo!
It was a firewall thing, refused incoming connections before during setup.
 


the 459 albums are mostly from Tidal. I disabled it again, and got only 25


I've found my hdd's on the BDP in the setup of folders, so could add those. Or should Roon add those folders through the settings of audio devices.
My understanding so far is the folder setting sorts the library (finds the files to play), the audio setting sorts the output and selects the device (playing  these files)?


Thanks,
Marius

[vonnie123]

Glad you got it....the HQPlayer is a separate program, and is listed in the link below.  I did the trial and upon receiving my Sonore microRendu, purchased the software. I am using it with my iMac, and Sonore microRendu in NAA mode (Roon on the front end). Awesome stuff.  They have a trial program for PC, Mac, and Linux.

http://www.signalyst.com/consumer.html

My music library (connected to JRiver MC) was set on my iMac in an external USB hard drive that was organized in folders by 1) CD Flac files, 2) Hi-res flac files, and 3) Hi-res surround flac files.  Each folder was broken down into four segments, defined by a portion of the alphabet (e.g. A - E, F - J, etc). Once I enrolled in Roon, the program took over and organized it.  Most of the tagging was right, but a few had to be identified.  Pretty amazing how much it does for you in that regard.  I am on the annual plan.  I am thinking about the lifetime program purchase and will probably proceed with that.  I've only had Roon around six weeks now but I am really pleased with how it works, and integrates with the computer.  Makes surfing Roon on the iPad a snap.

[Krutsch]

Bingo!
It was a firewall thing, refused incoming connections before during setup.

I've found my hdd's on the BDP in the setup of folders, so could add those. Or should Roon add those folders through the settings of audio devices.
My understanding so far is the folder setting sorts the library (finds the files to play), the audio setting sorts the output and selects the device (playing  these files)?

Roon should run on another computer (e.g. your laptop or in my case, a stand-alone Mac Mini) and access your music files via a NAS share or direct attached storage. The Bryston BDP should only be used for playback, as you've done with the Squeezebox functionality. While you technically can use the NAS shares on the BDP as the source for Roon's library, that will make for a bad experience (i.e. the NAS shares on the BDP are not particularly fast and I don't think you want the audio files copying OUT to your PC/Mac and then streaming back IN to your BDP via the Squeezelite function.

An in expensive way to solve both the MPD and Roon playback cases is to put you music on an inexpensive NAS box (I use a WD MyCloud).

[Krutsch]

Glad you got it....the HQPlayer is a separate program, and is listed in the link below.  I did the trial and upon receiving my Sonore microRendu, purchased the software. I am using it with my iMac, and Sonore microRendu in NAA mode (Roon on the front end). Awesome stuff.  They have a trial program for PC, Mac, and Linux.

http://www.signalyst.com/consumer.html

Yes, well... that would be incredible if the BDP included integration of the HQ Player's Network Audio Adapter (NAA) component. I've used this on a small Cubox-IPro component and it's fun to play with. In general, however, I run HQ Player Desktop on my MacBook Retina, using Nvidia CUDA off-load for the up-sampling processes and then out to my DAC via USB, with RoonServer running on a dedicated Mac Mini and my music files on a WD MyCloud.

But I would stop all of that if the BDP supported RoonBridge - because then I could use the remote/button functions and would presumably get the best playback quality.

[Marius]

Roon should run on another computer (e.g. your laptop or in my case, a stand-alone Mac Mini) and access your music files via a NAS share or direct attached storage. The Bryston BDP should only be used for playback, as you've done with the Squeezebox functionality. While you technically can use the NAS shares on the BDP as the source for Roon's library, that will make for a bad experience (i.e. the NAS shares on the BDP are not particularly fast and I don't think you want the audio files copying OUT to your PC/Mac and then streaming back IN to your BDP via the Squeezelite function.

An in expensive way to solve both the MPD and Roon playback cases is to put you music on an inexpensive NAS box (I use a WD MyCloud).

Right, with you so far. I got my files on the NAS also, and I've connected several folders on it with a few recordings to start with.
Ive read about installing the server in the NAS (synology ), enabling to take out the need for an extra computer. Any thoughts on that. (is still in experimental phase as far as the info goes)


My firewall still blocks Raatserver, it appeared after installing Roon. Is that related, or merely coincidence. If related, what is it for?


Thanks Ken and Vonnie, helps a lot!

[zybar]

Right, with you so far. I got my files on the NAS also, and I've connected several folders on it with a few recordings to start with.
Ive read about installing the server in the NAS (synology ), enabling to take out the need for an extra computer. Any thoughts on that. (is still in experimental phase as far as the info goes)


My firewall still blocks Raatserver, it appeared after installing Roon. Is that related, or merely coincidence. If related, what is it for?


Thanks Ken and Vonnie, helps a lot!

I installed ROON Core on my Synology DS 1813+ and while it "worked", I had dropouts and sometimes sluggish performance.

Moved to a 4 year old i7 desktop and it was much better.

As always our mileage may vary...

George

[RonCH]

I run roon ( with Docker ) on a Synology 1512+ with 3GB RAM installed.  It runs well.   

[vonnie123]

Yes, well... that would be incredible if the BDP included integration of the HQ Player's Network Audio Adapter (NAA) component. I've used this on a small Cubox-IPro component and it's fun to play with. In general, however, I run HQ Player Desktop on my MacBook Retina, using Nvidia CUDA off-load for the up-sampling processes and then out to my DAC via USB, with RoonServer running on a dedicated Mac Mini and my music files on a WD MyCloud.

But I would stop all of that if the BDP supported RoonBridge - because then I could use the remote/button functions and would presumably get the best playback quality.

I don't believe the BDP-1 will be used for anything greater than an endpoint.  Not enough horsepower.  Not sure what their intentions are for future releases.

IMO, the microRendu in Roon Ready mode sounds every bit as good as the BDP-1 in MPD mode.  I also have HQPlayer working at the iMac, but the speakers at the computer are lacking, and I just use them as background music from time to time.  One thing is for certain, service from both Sonore and Signalyst are both helpful and prompt.

[Krutsch]

I don't believe the BDP-1 will be used for anything greater than an endpoint.  Not enough horsepower.  Not sure what their intentions are for future releases.

IMO, the microRendu in Roon Ready mode sounds every bit as good as the BDP-1 in MPD mode.  I also have HQPlayer working at the iMac, but the speakers at the computer are lacking, and I just use them as background music from time to time.  One thing is for certain, service from both Sonore and Signalyst are both helpful and prompt.

That's the whole point of using HQ Player's Network Audio Adapter (NAA) to which I refer in my previous post. Not ALL of HQ Player, just the NAA component, which was designed to run on things like Rasp. Pi. devices and is running on your microRendu. The BDP-1 has plenty of CPU to run NAA; should be even less processing than MPD.

Ken

[Yitshak]

Well hello to all BDP veterans,

Just added BDP2's to my setups and I'm really impressed
with the level of step up in SQ vs my MACBook pro running JRiver.

As I watch for long time posts here and on Roon forum of BDP veterans I choose not to jump
full head down and load all my library on the BDP2.

I made some tumb drive (and doing some more) with small batch (30 album each)
Of chosen groups and artist that I like to hear with no compromise on SQ.
And starting my way like so.

Not rushing, I have my Mac and JRiver still connected to my BDA3 and all my archive
Is fix there spot on,all with album covers and Metadta.

Most of my albums on the new tumb drives that I prepare for the BDP2
, load well to the MM and the few that were not
I will erase later for re tag or convert to other format and load again.

It is kind of pain in the... but the sound just win it for me.

As I said I'm in no rush I already have enough verity of what to listen,
As I'm catching up and follow every day a bit more.

Reading all the posts regarding the Roon and the squeezelite I became curious if there is any advantage
for using this,compare to Roon direct to BDA3 via USB???

If not what the point of the squeezelite and BDP in the chain?? (Lol catching up with Those therms give me headache)

Does the BDP provide kind of blockade to the noise generate from the computer/cpu/ Becouse
It's receiving the data on the CAT6 cable or what? 

Now I discover that the sound of the BDP / MPD is just amazing to my ears
And understand I wouldn't like to sacrifice it for
The browsing side of the music.

I can always turn the Mac for browsing and playing casual if I choose.


I may keep the Mac with JRiver ( or Roon maybe  ) for handling the library and keep
Running selected tumb drives (selection that will grow with time!)
to the BDP until (if) the real deal (RAAT or BRIDG)
Will show up.

But this squeezelite/BDP vs direct computer to BDA over USB interested me,
I may try it for myself but from thechnical point of view can someone explain what's the advantage
Of one over the other and why?

Your excuse for wrong language phrasing

Itshak