Roon endpoint ETA?

Grit · « **on:** 19 Mar 2016, 11:23 pm »

Just wondering if anyone at Bryston had a rough idea of when the BDP-2 might have the firmware to act as a Roon endpoint?

James Tanner · « **Reply #1 on:** 19 Mar 2016, 11:25 pm »

Quote from: Grit on 19 Mar 2016, 11:23 pm

Just wondering if anyone at Bryston had a rough idea of when the BDP-2 might have the firmware to act as a Roon endpoint?

Hi

It is still a long way off.

james

Wim J · « **Reply #2 on:** 21 Mar 2016, 02:34 pm »

RonCH · « **Reply #3 on:** 21 Mar 2016, 04:03 pm »

Quote from: James Tanner on 19 Mar 2016, 11:25 pm

Hi

It is still a long way off.

james

Shame, are you able to say why?

cmarinsr · « **Reply #4 on:** 22 Mar 2016, 01:48 am »

Well... This is really disappointing, as I'm stuck with a one-year subscription, unused since February. I was hoping to hear better news...

Wim J · « **Reply #5 on:** 22 Mar 2016, 09:22 am »

I'm still using my BDP-1 wth Roon, but I'm stuck with release 2.22. Higher release have the Roon protocol removed.
I never enjoyed my BDP-1 that much as I do now. Sound Quality is same as MPD with uncompressed files, and that's what I'm using. Why would one want to listen to compressed music on a high-end system anyway?
Try to get release 2.22 on your system (I wouldn't know how) and you have a flawless working BDP with possibility to use it as a Roon-endpoint.

Krutsch · « **Reply #6 on:** 14 Apr 2016, 02:13 pm »

Quote from: James Tanner on 19 Mar 2016, 11:25 pm

Hi

It is still a long way off.

james

Hi James,

Is Roon still a long way off, now that Roon Bridge for Linux has been released?

James Tanner · « **Reply #7 on:** 14 Apr 2016, 03:35 pm »

Quote from: Krutsch on 14 Apr 2016, 02:13 pm

Hi James,

Is Roon still a long way off, now that Roon Bridge for Linux has been released?

HI

Still a long way off.

james

RonCH · « **Reply #8 on:** 18 Apr 2016, 06:50 pm »

Looks like Roon think that Bryston is a partner....

https://roonlabs.com/partners.html

scirica · « **Reply #9 on:** 19 Apr 2016, 12:06 am »

I'm really hoping my two favorite DAC manufacturers can work with Roon and figure this out. High hopes have been dashed by the effort to take this the last mile.

Jimmy71 · « **Reply #10 on:** 21 Apr 2016, 03:41 am »

Quote from: scirica on 19 Apr 2016, 12:06 am

I'm really hoping my two favorite DAC manufacturers can work with Roon and figure this out. High hopes have been dashed by the effort to take this the last mile.

We are not getting a clear answer about Roon but I think you can install Roonbridge (network) on the BDP-2 and the new BDP-pi.

vcwatkins · « **Reply #11 on:** 21 Apr 2016, 12:35 pm »

Quote from: Jimmy71 on 21 Apr 2016, 03:41 am

We are not getting a clear answer about Roon but I think you can install Roonbridge (network) on the BDP-2 and the new BDP-pi.

Can anyone confirm this?

vonnie123 · « **Reply #12 on:** 23 Apr 2016, 02:54 am »

You can get the BDP-1 (and BDP-2?) to work with Roon by changing the BDP-1 Manic Moose Services setting to squeezelite (squeezelite is toward the bottom of the list). It is not the Roon Ready RAAT technology, but it will allow the Media Player to function by emulating a Squeezebox type player.

Jimmy71 · « **Reply #13 on:** 23 Apr 2016, 05:32 am »

Quote from: vonnie123 on 23 Apr 2016, 02:54 am

You can get the BDP-1 (and BDP-2?) to work with Roon by changing the BDP-1 Manic Moose Services setting to squeezelite (squeezelite is toward the bottom of the list). It is not the Roon Ready RAAT technology, but it will allow the Media Player to function by emulating a Squeezebox type player.

I don't understand why Bryston doesn't end this conversation,it's not that we started it.

vonnie123 · « **Reply #14 on:** 23 Apr 2016, 06:51 am »

Quote from: Jimmy71 on 23 Apr 2016, 05:32 am

I don't understand why Bryston doesn't end this conversation,it's not that we started it.

Hey at least it works with the Roon software.....it sounds fine in the squeeze lite mode...

I plan on buying a Roon Ready renderer in the next few months anyway. Think they'll be a few more options forthcoming.

Yitshak · « **Reply #15 on:** 30 Apr 2016, 10:24 am »

While I reorganizing my of music folders and tags
And make my self ready as I can for my new BDP's
I can't avoid thinking what I would really like to get from a user point of view.

Industrial limitations and cost a side I would like a saperate library storage
Deck,with the most capable softwer built inside the storage Deck.

A storage Deck with Roon like capabilities that can organize all Metadta/cover art etc.

After that have been made I would like to connect it to the BDP
as we connect our Hard Drives.

The BDP will use this deck like a library.

It's look more logical in my user narrow view that library organizing issue will be solved in the library
And searching watching covers and playing procedure will be made in/from the player.

I never expected my CD deck to organize my many CD albums on the shelf

Sorry if I jump ahead or miss figure something
but Is it so unreachable at this point?

Itshak

Grit · « **Reply #16 on:** 30 Apr 2016, 10:48 am »

Kind of?

I believe one of the things that allows the BDPs to sound better than a computer is limiting what the BDP does. More functions may result in more electrical "noise" or interference? Even if that's not the case, you'd be adding more work to the BDPs than they were meant for.

From what I've read of Roon, it uses a regular computer (server) to handle all the work, plus they've created a separate, light graphical interface (phone/tablet app, computer program, etc). The controller directs the server to send data (music) to a player (the BDP in this case).

So, it really is two different things. Most audio hardware manufactures do not also create software. And, most software companies don't make audio equipment (of this caliber at least).

Yitshak · « **Reply #17 on:** 30 Apr 2016, 11:05 am »

Quote from: Grit on 30 Apr 2016, 10:48 am

Kind of?

I believe one of the things that allows the BDPs to sound better than a computer is limiting what the BDP does. More functions may result in more electrical "noise" or interference? Even if that's not the case, you'd be adding more work to the BDPs than they were meant for.

From what I've read of Roon, it uses a regular computer (server) to handle all the work, plus they've created a separate, light graphical interface (phone/tablet app, computer program, etc). The controller directs the server to send data (music) to a player (the BDP in this case).

So, it really is two different things. Most audio hardware manufactures do not also create software. And, most software companies don't make audio equipment (of this caliber at least).

I see

but I didn't thought is should be built into a BDP.
More like a saperate storage device kind of library Deck.

Let the BDP be a player only (cd like)
And the Bryston storage/library deck handle the library issues.

I think if Bryston will approach design of such a storage deck,
That will include Roon like capabilities,
they May be able to eliminate software
generating noise going out from it
To the BDP.

I dunno .. Just was thinking what I would like,
Without compromising the Bryston SQ.

Itshak

Krutsch · « **Reply #18 on:** 30 Apr 2016, 03:28 pm »

Quote from: Grit on 30 Apr 2016, 10:48 am

Kind of?

I believe one of the things that allows the BDPs to sound better than a computer is limiting what the BDP does. More functions may result in more electrical "noise" or interference? Even if that's not the case, you'd be adding more work to the BDPs than they were meant for.

From what I've read of Roon, it uses a regular computer (server) to handle all the work, plus they've created a separate, light graphical interface (phone/tablet app, computer program, etc). The controller directs the server to send data (music) to a player (the BDP in this case).

So, it really is two different things. Most audio hardware manufactures do not also create software. And, most software companies don't make audio equipment (of this caliber at least).

That is exactly the magic of Roon, IMO. Off-loading library management, decoding of various codecs, downloading/buffering streaming services like Tidal and presentation an elegant user interface (oh, and sync'ing multi-room playback). The BDP, as a Roon Bridge component, would do little more than what MPD does, except to participate in Roon's network control protocol. Chris mentioned earlier that there was actually quite bit of traffic going back-and-forth between the RoonServer and the renderer.

I am really hoping Bryston gets there... but only if they can make it sound as good as MPD playback. If they can't (or Roon RAAT doesn't really make that possible), then I hope they decline and just say why. Sound quality matters more to me than convenience, which I think I've proven with the many hoops I've had to jump through to get my library to play with Manic Moose.

Wim J · « **Reply #19 on:** 4 May 2016, 02:12 pm »

Quote from: Krutsch on 30 Apr 2016, 03:28 pm

That is exactly the magic of Roon, IMO. Off-loading library management, decoding of various codecs, downloading/buffering streaming services like Tidal and presentation an elegant user interface (oh, and sync'ing multi-room playback). The BDP, as a Roon Bridge component, would do little more than what MPD does, except to participate in Roon's network control protocol. Chris mentioned earlier that there was actually quite bit of traffic going back-and-forth between the RoonServer and the renderer.

I am really hoping Bryston gets there... but only if they can make it sound as good as MPD playback. If they can't (or Roon RAAT doesn't really make that possible), then I hope they decline and just say why. Sound quality matters more to me than convenience, which I think I've proven with the many hoops I've had to jump through to get my library to play with Manic Moose.

Please let the customer decide on what they want to prefer SQ or convenience. MPD is SQ-wise probably the best, but when you put (sh)airplay on the BDP, then you also have the integrate Roon. Shairplay is a long way behind Roon and MPD in Sound Quality. I'm still very happy with my BDP1 with 2.22 firmware which supports Roon. Roon SQ is maybe 1% less than MPD, but convenience is +300%. For me a very easy choice!
Roon just works on the BDP1 and +75000 tracks on NAS. No problem whatsoever!