JVC RX-ES1sl

jkelly · « **Reply #160 on:** 26 Aug 2004, 06:21 pm »

I am trying to connect my roof antenna with coax and F connector to the back of the JVC but the FM jack is not a threaded F tyoe connector. Has anyone connected an external antenna? I must be missing something?

thanks,

Jeff

beepx3 · « **Reply #161 on:** 27 Aug 2004, 02:17 am »

Quote from: TheChairGuy

J North,

With the JVC, you can only integrate a sub if you use the 'DVD' setting...inviting all the nasties tha ...

I've been using speaker level inputs into my sub, running my speakers full and using the sub's built in xover at 50Hz.

vpolineni · « **Reply #162 on:** 27 Aug 2004, 02:33 am »

Quote from: beepx3

I've been using speaker level inputs into my sub, running my speakers full and using the sub's built in xover at 50Hz.

I thought the JVC had a built in xover at 80hz... any owners out there care to clairfy this issue?

J North · « **Reply #163 on:** 27 Aug 2004, 03:48 am »

Quote from: vpolineni

I thought the JVC had a built in xover at 80hz... any owners out there care to clairfy this issue?

In order to use the internal crossover, the audio signal has to run through the DSP, which causes substantial degradation to the sound.

Best ti use the JVC as a pure analog amp, unless you're using it for HT duties

beepx3 · « **Reply #164 on:** 28 Aug 2004, 06:05 pm »

I've tried biamping my speakers using a 300B SET for the mid/highs and the JVC for the bass. The sound from this combo is incredible. However, using this set-up I loose the home theater decoding capabilities.

Does anyone know of a decent home theater preamp/surround sound decoder that has preouts?

homemade · « **Reply #165 on:** 29 Aug 2004, 03:21 am »

Hi guys, I'm new to this digital/hybrid all-in-one utterly amazing HT-high-end sounding audio technology. After reading all these posts( the chair guy's first) , I took the plunge , spent all the money, and got one of these JVC recv. I'm presently using it in my garage(burn-in), on a line array experiment I have going on. I cannot say HOW GOOD it is because it's not hooked up to my main sys(house). But with about 50hrs on it and my new project ,I very much like what I'm hearing. Dvd player spinning cd's through analog dvd in. My speakers are OB type , and I know the sound 'bounces' around front and back , but I swear I hear sounds coming from all directions. Ones I beleive I never noticed before. I almost thought I had DSP engaged(I'm in 'stereo' mode). I just tried a pair of ful-range drivers(no c/o) ; they had an 'organic' sound to them that I'm not used to hearing. On some good cuts , I really did 'feel' more drawn to the music. But , now to my ???. My house sys is bi-amped gain-clones(per side) with active c/o's. No passives allowed. Is there a GOOD way to hook up the JVC to my sys? Can I use the dvd inputs(front and surround) to this end. If so , which mode should I be using to aviod the DSP. And which mode is best for stereo(2 ch) listening. I have tried both DVD and DVD Multi , and really can't say that one is 'better'. I really would like to hear this thing through my current reference so that I can make a true call on this little , seemingly amazing , digital/hybrid , all-in-one , HT/high-end sounding technology. Thanks for enlightening me . Paul

TheChairGuy · « **Reply #166 on:** 29 Aug 2004, 03:58 am »

Paul/Homemade,

Welcome to AC and the wonders of the little JVC. You got about 250 more hours to be even more pleased

If you have a front end source with digital (either coax or toslink optical), you can run it into the JVC directly with selector as 'DVD'. You can now employ all 5 channels (and sub) for amplification for your 4 channels that you need. You can defeat the surround delay to the speakers....the way to do that is in the owners manual. Thin as it is, you can overlook it, but all we all need to know is actually in there.

The general consensus here is that analog inputs, with the JVC set to 'DVD' is superior to digital connection with the JVC set to 'DVD Multi'(opposite of the experience of Panny digital owners). However, we have all only tried digital coax...I have an all glass toslink optical in next week to try it this way. Perhaps, toslink optical is optimized over coax digital on the JVC. We will see next week

Of course, if you have a great outboard DAC (as I do), you may be better off running things in from your DAC with the JVC setting on 'DVD Multi'. This is essentally 2 channel set-up (when only two channels are fed in) and DSP is disabled. You can then buy one of these (below - I just did, for other reasons, and will be in next week for evaluation) and split off another signal from your front end and use one of your gainclones to amplify the last 2 channels needed.

3rd option is, if your front end has separate outputs for 5 channels and sub, you can just run 4 channels to the JVC, set to 'DVD Multi' and run your 4 channels that way. My lowly Pioneer DVD 656 Player from 2002 does, so I suspect many DVD/CD players do now.

I know you mentioned you don't have passive crossovers. Usually this is a superior method, but the JVC busts thru simple crossovers like they don't even exist. You may not feel the need for active crossovers, and all the complication of it, with the JVC...depending on your room size, how loud you like to play and other factors.

RoadTripper · « **Reply #167 on:** 29 Aug 2004, 04:23 am »

So, I am sitting here enjoying the heck out of my JVC ES1SL pumping signal into my Omega Grande 8Rs, reading the latest on the hoard of audiophiles buying into our hype on the JVC and read that the DVD/Multi setting is fundamentally different from the plain DVD setting.

I have been listening exclusively for the past month to the DVD setting. I just switched over to DVD/Multi. What is the difference?

FYI, I am feeding it from a basic Sony 775 SACD player. Have I been invoking an extra A/D/A step in the DVD setting that I am now avoiding in the DVD/Multi setting?

BTW, it still sounds great.

gary · « **Reply #168 on:** 29 Aug 2004, 12:03 pm »

Quote from: Seminarian

Have I been invoking an extra A/D/A step in the DVD setting that I am now avoiding in the DVD/Multi setting?

I don't think anyone has found the answer in writing (there's scant documentation on these JVC's so far) but I'm pretty sure that's the case. When I first hooked up my turntable it sounded lifeless and boring. Then I switched it to DVD/Multi, and then it came to life and sounded the way vinyl should. This was all the proof I needed.

Gary

lonewolfny42 · « **Reply #169 on:** 29 Aug 2004, 08:23 pm »

JVC still cook'in away in the basement, another 10 days or so to go. Playing FM music...volume set to # 10. Question, when your listening to your JVC at home, what # do you see in the volume display ?? (how loud do you play your music) Thanks !!

TheChairGuy · « **Reply #170 on:** 29 Aug 2004, 09:02 pm »

Wolfy,

You are real scientific...that sucka' should knock your socks off right NOW...and only get better in 10 days. Play it, any level, you will like it....

As for displays, I like mine off and the volume can vary between 6 (at night) and about 24 for sustained periods is about all my room, and my ears handle. It's plenty loud enough for 90db efficent Vandy's in a 10 x 12' room.

RoadTripper · « **Reply #171 on:** 29 Aug 2004, 09:24 pm »

Well, I have been running my JVC ES1SL in the DVD/Multi mode now through 3 titles. And I am sorta' glad that I didn't know about the difference these last 4 weeks. Prior to last night, I have been only in the plain DVD mode. So as of last night, I got a real treat when I switched over to whatever the DVD/Multi mode does.

The JVC is now playing at an entirely different level. I popped on Mahler's First (Chicago, Boulez, DDG). Normally a pretty strident congested compressed sounding recording. Not very pleasant, actually. But with this little bedroom system, I now hear something a lot more like the orchestra in space rather than a recording in a box.

I am also starting to think I may not need medication to relieve me of an addiction to audio placebos. This stereo of mine is actually good. And a great deal of credit must go to Louis of Omega Speakers because these single driver crossoverless babies are outstanding.

Total hours on the JVC, you ask. Well, about 20 days at about 6 hours each and about 10 days at about 10 hours. So, call it 220 hrs. max. (The new speakers - Omega Grande 8R probably have nearly 300 hrs. now).

I will say it again, my downstairs (reference) system consisting of VMPS RM40s, driven biamped by the heavily modified Panasonic XR45 and using stellar Virtual Dynamics cabling is sitting unused while I am reveling in this little system. I will grant that the living room system suffers greatly from its setup. Believe it or not, I am buying a new house in order to aleviate that problem. (Not the only reason, of course, but a listening room with ideal characteristics will be a priority).

BTW, I really would like to hear what the Virtual Dynamics cables would do in the JVC system. They really advanced the reference system tremendously.

lonewolfny42 · « **Reply #172 on:** 29 Aug 2004, 09:43 pm »

Quote from: TheChairGuy

Wolfy,

You are real scientific...that sucka' should knock your socks off right NOW...and only get better in 10 days. Play it, any level, you will like it...

I want to wait till the time when everyone seems to say it sounds best....2 week or 300 hours. I set Sept. 9th as that time.

I'm also waiting for a pair of

these binding post adaptors to arrive.[/list:u]

-Richard- · « **Reply #173 on:** 30 Aug 2004, 12:51 am »

Hi Lonewolf,

Your question about

'...what # do you see in the volume display ??...'

is interesting. Watching the numbers will immediately
inform you of the efficiency of your speakers.

My Maggies for example need a higher number than
my Ruark's to achieve the same sound levels.

But what I wanted to share with everyone is this:

The other day I raised the sound levels on the JVC, while
using the Maggies, into the 40's...and at least one of the speakers
began to to buzz, suggesting that the thinner than a human hair
plastic sheet that acts as a baffle began to lose control...
naturally I panicked and immediately reduced the sound level...

Reducing the sound levels immediately ameliorated the
distortion and restored the highly refined sound (thank you God!).

Why you might be asking was I foolish enough to raise
the sound levels that high in the first place.

And here is where is gets interesting. Because I found
that as I raised the level of sound on certain musical presentations
I could not detect any distortion...it seems our little JVC,
once it is burned in sufficiently, will "hold" the integrity
of the musical presentation without the usual SS compression
and subsequent hardness setting in...

However as my little experiment proved, the JVC has its
limits...and I assume that what I heard was a kind of clipping.

On the Maggies I can listen to music around the middle to
high thirties...a sound level impossible before...Deb is
very sensitive to audio distortion...glare, hardness, and
peaky spiky highs make her run for cover...this does not
happen with the JVC...

And what it has done for our experiences with movies is
just as profound as its effect on redbook CD's...voices and
background music come to life...adding infinitely to our
emotional involvement in the movie...voices take on an
almost cosmic significance while we are literally swept
along by the cadences of the musical offerings...

Warm regards -Richard-

tubeytubeamp · « **Reply #174 on:** 30 Aug 2004, 02:12 am »

I just tried the dvd Multi thing, what a huge difference. I thought the JVC sounded great before!

Chair Guy,

I also have the splitter you pictured, Are you able to connect two sources to the splitter without any loss of gain on the second set of connections? I would like to connect my CD player and Turntable up through the DVD multi input at the same time.

Thanks
Dennis

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lonewolfny42 · « **Reply #175 on:** 30 Aug 2004, 02:16 am »

Quote from: gary

If you want to run an analog signal you need to use the DVD inputs, and then set the receiver to DVD/Multi. That'll bypass the A->D->A conversion that would normally happen. You can also connect a digital coax or toslink cable from the player to the same input, and then switch between DVD & DVD/Multi to compare the two. If you have a good cd player chances are the analog in will sound better (IMO) but definitely try both.

Gary

Bumped it up...I had no idea where to plug in when I first got the JVC.....

-Richard- · « **Reply #176 on:** 30 Aug 2004, 04:31 am »

OK, I am confused...

'...I would like to connect my CD player and Turntable
up through the DVD multi input at the same time...'

I have the JVC RXF 10S...Are you saying Dennis that
there is a different input for the multi/DVD option
that will accept analogue interconnects...or does
this option (in the back among the rest of the inputs)
only take a digital cable...

In the back of the RXF 10S there is only one pair of
Audio inputs...I do not see the same configuration for
the section marked multi/DVD....

Any clarification would be most helpful.

Thanks and warm regards -Richard-

TheChairGuy · « **Reply #177 on:** 30 Aug 2004, 05:45 am »

Quote from: tubeytubeamp

I just tried the dvd Multi thing, what a huge difference. I thought the JVC sounded great before!

Chair Guy,

I also have the splitter you pictured, Are you able to connect two sources to the splitter without any loss of gain on the second set of connections? I would like to connect my CD player and Turntable up through the DVD multi input at the same time.

Thanks
Dennis

Tubey/Dennis,

Don't know yet if there is degradation/loss of signal...I don't get mine until Tuesday or so this week.

I am not sure why you want to connect CD and TT thru the JVC at the same time. You can simply plug your TT preamp into any of the unused other inputs back there...TV, DBS or VCR (in) jacks. They are just standard rca inputs...right and left like the two leads you have from your TT preamp.

Hey, if you really want superb sound, get some Mapleshade or Walker silver bearing grease. The already amazing clarity of the JVC will be even more prominent. Over the past few weeks it has been losing its magic for me....I realized today I had greased all the connections the day I got it and have plugged and unplugged things many times since. The grease wears and you have to re-apply when you do this.

Wow- what an amazing upgrade this is. All the plugs, rca's, speakers connections and if you're a little handy, the fuses inside the JVC. Wow

tubeytubeamp · « **Reply #178 on:** 30 Aug 2004, 11:56 am »

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I am not sure why you want to connect CD and TT thru the JVC at the same time. You can simply plug your TT preamp into any of the unused other inputs back there...TV, DBS or VCR (in) jacks. They are just standard rca inputs...right and left like the two leads you have from your TT preamp.
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It's my impression from the emails posted that the dvd multi input is better than the other RCA in's DVD, DBS, VCR, ETC.

Richard:
The dvd/multi input is not a seperate input. If you plug your cd player into the dvd input, you can listen to it by toggling your input selector between DVD and DVD multi. The DVD Multi offers better sound then when the input is set to DVD. The dvd/multi input can be used with the analog and coaxial/toslink.

If the multi input is better than all the RCA inputs, I will try using the splitter that chairguy pictured a few posts back to run my cdp and TT into the dvd/multi inputs. However, I think that there will be some loss of gain when plugging a second source into the Y splitter.

Dennis

lonewolfny42 · « **Reply #179 on:** 30 Aug 2004, 02:17 pm »

ChairGuy wrote:

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Hey, if you really want superb sound, get some Mapleshade or Walker silver bearing grease. The already amazing clarity of the JVC will be even more prominent. Over the past few weeks it has been losing its magic for me....I realized today I had greased all the connections the day I got it and have plugged and unplugged things many times since. The grease wears and you have to re-apply when you do this.

CG,