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No, that's not what this is all about.
A good first step, based on the posted listening impressions of the NC1200, would be to install into the NC400, as many of the passive parts used in the NC1200 as practically possible. Starting with the 12ga. wiring harness used in the NC1200. Scotty
But I know the lower the noise/distortion seems to pay off.
Debating subjective parameters is even more pointless.
So you are certain that these listening "impressions" are objective fact that resulted from the differences in passive parts, and have nothing to do with subjective factors on the part of the listeners, the room, the speakers, the other components, or the amp-system interactions?
Well you better ask OzarkTom about that as he knows that the low distortion debate was settled in the '70's....
Quote from cab at 06:51PMDiscussing subjective impressions of an amplifier is not pointless. See link: http://www.audiocircle.com/index.php?topic=105310.0Ironic, considering that most people chose audio equipment based on how it sounds to them.Quote from cab at 07:32 pmYes.Scotty
It's not either or, Tom is saying you have to find something you like the sound of first, and it may not be the lowest in distortion. That doesn't mean taking your not lowest distortion device and plugging it into a conditioner or modifying it is invaluable.Also if 90% of people subjectively prefer something, you might want to think about it. Subjectivity is just objectivity we can't define.
My argument is first about the validity of subjective listening impressions- do they necessarily imply an objective improvement in amp performance, or as I have asserted, can people think something sounds "better" when in fact, it simply sounds different. You can't tell me with a straight face that without measurements you can make this distinction.Secondly, if you can't define it, you can't measure it. See the first part of the argument.Thirdly, it is indeed about personal preferences- if one, or a thousand people think something "sounds better", does than mean that I will? No. That means that when someone tells me that this cap tweak improved the ncore, unless they can show me an objective improvement, it means nothing to me because odds are, it just sounds different. Maybe I will like it, maybe not. You can't call it an improvement, all you can say is it's a modification that was found preferable to stock. And, as I have said repeatedly, there is nothing wrong with that.
Again seems to me that logically this is a pretty cheap upgrade, yet not that critical to go this deep. I have seen debates on several other types of upgrades that cost hundreds or thousands, at least this unit is virtually nothing to do the change and find the results.
given the massive amount of information (terabytes) we might hear
Doubling the capacitors changes the ESR/ESL value of the filter's capacitance. It's not subjective, and it is measurable. And it does increase a goal of the amplifier. Is it worth it, that's the question since all know physics to humans tells us exactly what I said. It's not disputed information, like said people have been doing it forever.
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