Getting to be time for some Football?

Rclark · « **Reply #500 on:** 7 Jan 2013, 04:14 am »

Sorry for being a little overbearing, the jubilation is high in our neighborhood.

Letitroll98 · « **Reply #501 on:** 7 Jan 2013, 04:14 am »

No worries Clarkie, it's okay to go bonkers for your team, we all do.

I think it was fine to start RGIII, he had played well against the Cowgirls the week before and should have only been improving. However, when he tweaked the knee on the sideline pass attempt he should have pulled himself. Then after he told the coach he was good to go and the coach saw him throw the interception, Shanahan should have pulled him for Cousins. Not because he threw an INT, but because he obviously couldn't push off on that leg. At that point I agree with you guys, from then on he should have been benched, and the way the knee buckled does not look good. He was walking okay, hopefully it's not too bad.

The Seahawks looked pedestrian. They did okay, certainly enough to win, but Wilson missed several open receivers and neither line looked dominate. RGIII put a 14-0 whoopin' on 'em before he re-injured his knee and couldn't throw or run. If not for a fantastic play by Lynch to recover Wilson's fumble, it could have been Washington going up by 7. And when given the ball on the 4 yard line they managed only 3 points. An okay game for the Hawks, they won't be so lucky in Atlanta.

Rclark · « **Reply #502 on:** 7 Jan 2013, 04:19 am »

You might be right, but then again, Wilson is the TERMINATOR.

"I'll be back"

Letitroll98 · « **Reply #503 on:** 7 Jan 2013, 04:34 am »

Well I sure like the kid, and I like the Seahawks, they just didn't play particularly inspiring ball today. Seriously, if RGIII didn't get injured they'd be making golfing plans for next week. But all three of the rooks are great guys that handle their fame very professionally, it'll be fun watching the three of them over the next few years.

James Romeyn · « **Reply #504 on:** 7 Jan 2013, 04:51 am »

Hawks road record now 4/6, no slouching there! Honestly I know nothing about the Falcons except that Fox analysts say they will beat the Hawks, but they're gonna have to be great to beat the Hawks.

I'd feel safer about the 9ers beating the Pack if Justin Smith was 100% and if we didn't loose two star WRs to injuries (Kyle Williams and Manningham...both were frequent targets for Kaepernick). I can only hope that maybe Harbs over states Justin's injury to trick the opponent.

At least WR Crabtree is playing his best football ever. He is one of the best WRs I've seen playing over the last six weeks or so, but I admit it's not like I've watched every NFL game. In one play last week (IIRC) he and the DB wrestled over the ball and it was like UFC, Crabs finally wrestling it away for a big gain. Jerry Rice says Crabs is gonna kick butt in the PS. Crabtree has been injured most of his career, but he's 100% as of now anyway. He's never looked stronger, quicker, faster, or more fierce.

TE Delanie Walker must make every possible catch, drop none, and take no prisoners...we hope. Vernon Davis is a great blocking TE, but he has trouble with hand catches and it seems like he has not adjusted to Kaepernick's ball speed (timed over 60mph). Plus he's often double teamed. I've seen CK toss the ball right through defender's hands on a few occasions.

It will be close. Could come down to loosing because of horrible FG kicking, which I hope is not the case. We just brought in Cundiff to compete with Ackers for FG kicks, and frankly, I can't see how Ackers will be allowed on the field. Cundiff is winning from reports I read. We might see Harbaugh risking more 4th downs because of higher risk with our FG kicker.

Gore's never been this healthy this late in the season, a big plus. The guy is a wrecking ball, shifty and awesome cuts, plus he's so short the 6-3+ D linemen can't see him and tall players have to get down low to pick him up off his feet. Rookie RB LaMichael James may see more plays than any prior game, extremely quick, and good hands too.

I predict by the start of the game the 9ers will have only .5 points in Vegas. One bright spot for the 9ers is that GB should have really won by a lot more points today, unless they held back presuming the end, and preferred to keep plays secret for the 9er game. Lastly, only 6 days off for GB and they gotta travel a long way.

Letitroll98 · « **Reply #505 on:** 7 Jan 2013, 05:00 am »

Opening Line
Baltimore 45.5o -103
Denver -9 -101

Green Bay 45o -105
San Francisco -3.5 113

Seattle 46o -103
Atlanta -2.5 -107

Houston 48o -110
New England -9.5 -110

You've got a ways to drop to get to a pick'em matchup.

Rclark · « **Reply #506 on:** 7 Jan 2013, 05:03 am »

Quote from: Letitroll98 on 7 Jan 2013, 04:34 am

Well I sure like the kid, and I like the Seahawks, they just didn't play particularly inspiring ball today. Seriously, if RGIII didn't get injured they'd be making golfing plans for next week. But all three of the rooks are great guys that handle their fame very professionally, it'll be fun watching the three of them over the next few years.

Yeah... I don't know about that. It take more than a quarterback to lose a game. Did you actually watch it? The Seahawks owned that game, period.

The Redskins were simply outgunned in their own stadium.

The Seahawks came back from 0-14 and ended up winning by 10. Watch the full game, RGII's knee was not that much a factor, it's not like he was on crutches and last I checked he sits on the bench when the other team has the ball.

medium jim · « **Reply #507 on:** 7 Jan 2013, 05:26 am »

Quote from: Rclark on 7 Jan 2013, 05:03 am

Yeah... I don't know about that. It take more than a quarterback to lose a game. Did you actually watch it? The Seahawks owned that game, period.

The Redskins were simply outgunned in their own stadium.

The Seahawks came back from 0-14 and ended up winning by 10. Watch the full game, RGII's knee was not that much a factor, it's not like he was on crutches and last I checked he sits on the bench when the other team has the ball.

Not sure what game you watched. RGIII was unable to pivot off of his right leg, inspite if this he was able to pick apart the Hawks Defense in the 1st quarter. During the second drive he clearly was in pain after being tackled on the sideline and limped back on to the field and then tossed a TD Pass to make it 13 to 0...the PAT made it 14 to 0.

During the Skins next possession there was a bad snap (RGIII was in the shotgun) and mishandled the bad snap and in his effort to get the dropped ball his right knee collapsed. He was clearly injured to the point where he was totally ineffective and should have been replaced immediately.

The Hawks defense is iffy and will not take them past Atlanta. Their offense is decent and they will score some points, just not enough to get past Atlanta.

But, the game is played on the field...

Jim

Rclark · « **Reply #508 on:** 7 Jan 2013, 05:36 am »

I didnt't even know you liked football pops, where have you been this whole thread

the Hawks defense is not "iffy" go look at who they beat this season.

medium jim · « **Reply #509 on:** 7 Jan 2013, 05:41 am »

Quote from: Rclark on 7 Jan 2013, 05:36 am

I didnt't even know you liked football pops, where have you been this whole thread

the Hawks defense is not "iffy" go look at who they beat this season.

Please refrain from calling me "pops"....

Jim

Rclark · « **Reply #510 on:** 7 Jan 2013, 05:56 am »

Quote from: medium jim on 7 Jan 2013, 05:26 am

Not sure what game you watched. RGIII was unable to pivot off of his right leg, inspite if this he was able to pick apart the Hawks Defense in the 1st quarter. During the second drive he clearly was in pain after being tackled on the sideline and limped back on to the field and then tossed a TD Pass to make it 13 to 0...the PAT made it 14 to 0.

During the Skins next possession there was a bad snap (RGIII was in the shotgun) and mishandled the bad snap and in his effort to get the dropped ball his right knee collapsed. He was clearly injured to the point where he was totally ineffective and should have been replaced immediately.

The Hawks defense is iffy and will not take them past Atlanta. Their offense is decent and they will score some points, just not enough to get past Atlanta.

But, the game is played on the field...

Jim

Did you hurriedly read that at ESPN

medium jim · « **Reply #511 on:** 7 Jan 2013, 06:29 am »

And please refrain from sending PM's....

To answer your question, no I watched the game. Is ESPN saying the same thing?

Jim

jimdgoulding · « **Reply #512 on:** 7 Jan 2013, 07:26 am »

Ah, we didn't need to know that, brother Jim. You coulda told bro Clark that in a PM. I thought that was rather indecent of you, my man. I'm only guessing, but I expect some confidence was taken for granted. Now, if I've misinterpreted, I'll cop to being rather vinyardly sudued. Maybe a little passed subdued. Thanks.

Rclark · « **Reply #513 on:** 7 Jan 2013, 07:53 am »

till next Sunday gents. Beating Arizona to a pulp was my super bowl, I'm good with whatever happens from here.

medium jim · « **Reply #514 on:** 7 Jan 2013, 04:24 pm »

Quote from: jimdgoulding on 7 Jan 2013, 07:26 am

Ah, we didn't need to know that, brother Jim. You coulda told bro Clark that in a PM. I thought that was rather indecent of you, my man. I'm only guessing, but I expect some confidence was taken for granted. Now, if I've misinterpreted, I'll cop to being rather vinyardly sudued. Maybe a little passed subdued. Thanks.

Jim:

It is what it is and no more...Seattle surpassed all expectations as did the Redskins, neither team was going to go all the way. Both have a viable platform to grow from. I wouldn't be surprised if Shanahan gets the boot.

Jim

James Romeyn · « **Reply #515 on:** 7 Jan 2013, 08:19 pm »

Looking now very much like Hawks vs. 9ers will yield some of the best Conference battles in the coming decade.

I'm only biased in the following remark, but it also looks to me like there are more plays than not wherein the Hawks DBs commit uncalled fouls against WRs and TEs.

Someone recently posted somewhere the hypocrisy of the NFL's Thursday night games. On the one hand the NFL has stated safety policy and rule changes to minimize brain injury (ex-player law suit settlement may be in the billions). On the other hand, purely for monetary gain because it's so popular, they instituted TNF, with its 4-day rest period vs. the usual seven, apparently resulting in huge spike in injuries.

Lastly, every new NFL TV contract generally is twice the dollar amount of the previous expiring contract. That injury lawsuit will be extremely costly. It will never go to trial, ever in a million years IMO.

To anyone who attended a Hawks game. Yes, no, or I don't know to the following: Does the stadium PA system play crowd noise? If done properly, you might not be able to tell it's happening.

The Hawks 12th man advantage vs. the 9ers should be more closely leveled after the new 9er stadium is complete. Candlestick, even so loud my guts churned in the stands, has only the smallest fraction of field noise compared to other stadiums, at least best I can tell.

jimdgoulding · « **Reply #516 on:** 8 Jan 2013, 12:17 am »

For those of you who worked all day, as you can imagine, the big buzz on sports TV today was about RG3 and whether or not he should have been benched for his injury. Heck, yes, he should have been is my take. Shanahan thought he needed him in the game to have any chance of winning. But, what IF he had pulled him. Could the owner have gone nuts? I can't see that given the obvious but what was Shanahan thinking, I gotta wonder. And the part I didn't get from today's news is what was the team doctor's recommendation. As far as RG3 wanting to stay it thru, well, of course he does and that should weigh the least in the consideration. But, you may disagree. Anybody got some info on how the team doctor weighed in?

jackman · « **Reply #517 on:** 8 Jan 2013, 01:16 am »

I have no lroblem with the Skins starting RG but can't believe they kept him in after he injured or reinsured the knew during the first quarter. Prior to the injury the skins were moving the ball well and looking very good. Afterwards, it was obvious he could not throw or put much weight in the leg. It was sad to watch and I hope he recovers fully. If the doctor's account of the situation is accurate, the Skins should can Shannahan(assuming Daniel Schneider didn't give the orders to keep him in the game).

Funny, but I recall several of you guys criticizing Jay Cutler for pulling out of a playoff game a couple years ago when he sprained his knee. It looks like he made the right decision in light of the RG3 injury. People called him a wuss and accused him of giving up on the team. Knee injuries are brutal.

medium jim · « **Reply #518 on:** 8 Jan 2013, 01:37 am »

Quote from: jackman on 8 Jan 2013, 01:16 am

Knee injuries are brutal.

Yes they are...I had a grade 2 tear of my right ACL about 30 years ago and you literally have to trick you mind that it is okay to run again even after it healed. I don't know how Adrian Peterson did it this year and hope that RGIII comes back as well.

I doubt we will ever know the true story as to why RGIII wasn't pulled. He is the future of the Skins and it wasn't worth it.

Jim

jimdgoulding · « **Reply #519 on:** 8 Jan 2013, 02:11 am »

You bet your dang skippy. This guy has/had a brilliant future and the Redskins would be the beneficiary. What were they thinking? He's gonna get better over the course of the game? The opposing team's defense is not going to tee-off on him? It's just mind blowing ludricrous to me. This guy's likely outstanding career and the teams next season were in the balance of only one game. The Skins hadn't been anything in so long they couldn't see the big picture and they gambled with this kid. Hell, they could have taken him out for a quarter and evaluated the situation. But, they didn't. You'd have to beat fans off with a stick for tickets going forward even if they had lost with their dignity intact. Instead, they got a big controversy and a player hurt the worse for it. I hope the young man heals up and leads his team to a Championship. Some other team, preferably.