A new owner desperate

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mario09

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A new owner desperate
« on: 12 Apr 2012, 12:56 am »
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I just bought a Bryston BDP 1. Nothing to say about the sound quality. Simply excellent!!!! However, I fail completely to saved all of my music library in my Bryston. Here is some information:

1. I use a WD My Book Essential USB Hardrive 1TB. There are over 15,000 songs in this library. It consists of AIFF (60%) FLAC (35%) and 5% purchased at iTunes Store. The hard drive is in FAT32 format. Attached in the USB port behind (first one bottom)

2. BP1 constantly updating my music library even if the scan is complete (as indicated in the system log/mpd).

3. No library is stored in my BDP1. When I use the settings under BDP1 system log / mpd I see that the BDP has scanned my library. I can access my library in part (some artist are missing) with Mpad but I am not able to play it from my Bryston BDP1 who sees no library ...

I bought this player to listen to music not to be a computer expert. Does anyone can help me?

mario09

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Re: A new owner desperate
« Reply #1 on: 12 Apr 2012, 02:42 am »
One more information, I have a Mac OS 10.7.

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Re: A new owner desperate
« Reply #2 on: 12 Apr 2012, 03:31 am »
You might try to set the scratch drive to your WD USB drive.

http://bryston-bdp-1.local/settings/index.html

Jim

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Re: A new owner desperate
« Reply #3 on: 12 Apr 2012, 03:37 am »
You might also review this post I made a while back to another new BDP user. 

Welcome to the forums BTW.

Jim

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« Reply #4 on: 12 Apr 2012, 04:49 pm »
  Mario, does the BDP see and play the flash drive that Bryston supplies with the BDP? (I assume Bryston still supplies the flash drive.) If you have no problem wiith that, then maybe there is a problem with your WD hard drive.

mario09

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Re: A new owner desperate
« Reply #5 on: 12 Apr 2012, 11:47 pm »
First, thank you to all of you. Unfortunately, it's not working. My BDP1 recognizes my WD HD Drive but still indicates "updating" even if the scan is done. I can see the artists, albums, songs but I can't play them from the front panel. When I use the Mpad I can play albums and songs but the list of artists and songs is incomplete. As for the BDP1 under my settings I see 1336 songs but I have 15 000 songs on my HD and as I said before, curiously, I can see all of them them in the front panel but I can't play them. I am really confused. What can I do? I sent yesterday an email to Bryston customer service and I am still waiting:(

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« Reply #6 on: 13 Apr 2012, 12:13 am »
First, thank you to all of you. Unfortunately, it's not working. My BDP1 recognizes my WD HD Drive but still indicates "updating" even if the scan is done. I can see the artists, albums, songs but I can't play them from the front panel. When I use the Mpad I can play albums and songs but the list of artists and songs is incomplete. As for the BDP1 under my settings I see 1336 songs but I have 15 000 songs on my HD and as I said before, curiously, I can see all of them them in the front panel but I can't play them. I am really confused. What can I do? I sent yesterday an email to Bryston customer service and I am still waiting:(

Hi Mario

If the Bryston thumbdrive works then something is wrong with the drive. Do you have another drive you could try ?  Are you sure the drive is formatted Fat32. If the drive will not load it usually means the wrong format.

Maybe pick up a 8 Gig thumbdrive (not from a MAC store) and load some songs on it to see?

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James

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Re: A new owner desperate
« Reply #7 on: 13 Apr 2012, 12:46 am »
Are you on Windows or Mac?   How did you copy the files to the HDD?     Can you confirm that the iTunes directory you copy is consuming the total size reported in iTunes?   Guessing with 60% AIFF you probably have close to 500GB of files so the WD should be about 1/2 full. 

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« Reply #8 on: 13 Apr 2012, 01:30 am »
I tried several thumbdrives, including Bryston. I have a Flash 32GB with all my playlist and everything is working fine with the thumb drives. Before I bought the BDP1, I had a UPNP music server with a NAS (Netgear Ultra 2 Plus). I do not use iTunes. My full library is on my NAS with 30 000 songs, more than 900 artists. As you can see, music is important to me : )

I bought the Bryston BDP1 because I was tired to be a geek. I just want now to listen music, not playing with hardware or software, just music. I moved half of my music collection to my USB 2TB WD hard drive (sorry my mistake, I've written 1TB in my first post). I moved them one by one from my NAS to my WD hard drive. I used disk utility in my Mac Book Air and formatted the WD on FAT32. I checked if I had permission to repair, but everything is fine. It's not my first attempt. Each time I have more than 10 000 tracks on my hard drive, my BDP1 stop to update my music library. Like if the BDP1 CPU or memory is full.

If the hard drive is the problem, can you suggest me a USB hard drive compatible with my mac which I could use with my BDP1? What will be the best settings? James, regarding your question, I recently bought my BDP1 from Audiolight in Quebec City. BTW I am really sorry for my english, I am not fully bilingual. I try the best as I can ; )

Once again thank you to all of you!

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Re: A new owner desperate
« Reply #9 on: 13 Apr 2012, 02:08 am »
Hi Mario,

FRom what i have gathered it sounds like the thumb drives work with the bdp-1 (please correct me if i am mistaken), but your 2tb wd drive isn't.  As its a 2TB drive i'm assuming its 3.5" drive that came with a power supply, so its not a power issue.   As all the songs are viewable from the front panel controls the bdp-1 is seeing it.  My guess is its getting stuck on some files during the update process.  If you open mpad and view your library using browse you should see were its getting stuck.  If this can be determined then you could remove the files that the bdp-1 is getting hung up on.  If this is the case our next firmware update (late april release expected, updates MPD from 0.15.12 to 0.16.6) could resolve this issue.

Cheers,
Chris

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Re: A new owner desperate
« Reply #10 on: 13 Apr 2012, 02:19 am »
Can you review the file size for the songs that won't play and compare them to what is on the NAS vs the WD HDD?

If they don't match you might want to use something like synkron which will perform a check some between the source and destination.

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« Reply #11 on: 13 Apr 2012, 02:36 am »
Hi Unincognito,

You are correct regarding my problem. I checked the system log and mpad, and my BDP1 getting stuck when it scans Louis Armstrong. So, I will remove this album and see. I will get back to you as soon as I can.

Skunark, thank you for the suggestion. I will try synkron if necessary.

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Re: A new owner desperate
« Reply #12 on: 14 Apr 2012, 12:30 am »
Until now everything is fine. I noticed my BDP1 has difficulty to scan m4a and aif files. Sometimes it's working with aif files sometimes not. But with Flac, absolutely no problem. I will continue my test.

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« Reply #13 on: 14 Apr 2012, 01:59 am »
Hi Mario,

After some testing today with the latest build of our beta software (which is very near to release, weeks) it should provide better support for aiff, WAv and few other formats.

Cheers
Chris

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Re: A new owner desperate
« Reply #14 on: 14 Apr 2012, 03:05 am »
Thank You Chris!

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« Reply #15 on: 14 Apr 2012, 06:55 am »
Hello Mario

Just put your flac on usb sticks and run gnome. You see all your usb tunes. Usb sticks with flac and wav are the way to go with this player by a long shot due to it simplicity. You said it "I don't want to be a comp expert" and nor should you. Luckily the best sounding way to utilize the BDP doesn't require any computer savy skills. Just plug and play usb sticks and control through gnome or mpad.

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Re: A new owner desperate
« Reply #16 on: 16 Apr 2012, 12:15 am »
After several tests, my BDP1 stops scanning when it encounters AIF files and sometimes m4a files which were bought on iTunes (no DRM). I believed that the AIF and AIFF files are similar. Why the BDP1 does not accept AIF files? Why m4a files purchased on iTunes are sometimes not allowed? Chris, do the next update will fix these problems? Thank you.

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« Reply #17 on: 16 Apr 2012, 01:38 am »
After several tests, my BDP1 stops scanning when it encounters AIF files and sometimes m4a files which were bought on iTunes (no DRM). I believed that the AIF and AIFF files are similar. Why the BDP1 does not accept AIF files? Why m4a files purchased on iTunes are sometimes not allowed? Chris, do the next update will fix these problems? Thank you.

I have no issues with AIFF files ripped and/or managed by iTunes and the bulk of my files are AIFF.   

You might try the latest firmware that's about to be released and if you still have the issue.   You might even see if you can upgrade the ID3 tags with iTunes (right-click) or an id3 tag editor to see if that provides any improvement with MPD.  There have been several ID3 bugs reported with MPD, so perhaps this has already been resolved or a new one that Bryston might need to file.

Jim

http://musicpd.org/mantis/view.php?id=2667  <-- should already be addressed with current firmware.
http://musicpd.org/mantis/changelog_page.php


mario09

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Re: A new owner desperate
« Reply #18 on: 16 Apr 2012, 02:02 am »
I have no problem with AIFF files but AIF. The Bryston BDP1 says unrecognized audio format error. I thought AIFF or AIF was the same.

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Re: A new owner desperate
« Reply #19 on: 16 Apr 2012, 04:33 am »
I have no problem with AIFF files but AIF. The Bryston BDP1 says unrecognized audio format error. I thought AIFF or AIF was the same.

AIFF files can have either .aiff or .aif extensions, mpd won't care.

If it's saying unrecognized audio format error, then most likely it's a corrupt file or file with an incorrect extension (i.e. renaming an AAC file to AIF without actually converting the file).  Compare the file size between the source and destination.