Bryston Loudspeakers

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Re: Bryston Loudspeakers
« Reply #2800 on: 27 Sep 2022, 05:09 pm »
Can a pair of Middle T Active be "converted" to "passive"?

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« Reply #2801 on: 27 Sep 2022, 07:49 pm »
Hi

Not very easily - I think it would have to go back to the factory.

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« Reply #2802 on: 12 Oct 2022, 04:13 pm »
Re Conversation of Active to Passive speakers.   Might I suggest purchasing from Bryston the passive crossovers and building them into an external box with outputs that would connect to the low, mid and tweeter speaker inputs.   Ie the setup of the original Bryston Signature T speakers.   It is not technically difficult if you can handle a drill and soldering iron. 

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« Reply #2803 on: 12 Oct 2022, 05:09 pm »
I was thinking the crossover might have been integrated onto the speaker terminal jack plate like so many other speakers.

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« Reply #2804 on: 13 Oct 2022, 12:39 am »
I was thinking the crossover might have been integrated onto the speaker terminal jack plate like so many other speakers.

If there is a middle t signature the outboard xover is a direct replacement for the active version. You sell the bax and amps you don't need anymore. Why are you changing anyway. The actives sell for double the price now if you bought years ago and used passive middle ts should pop up on the market eventually.

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« Reply #2805 on: 13 Oct 2022, 11:54 am »
Essentially simplification. One of my Middle Ts had an issue and the trouble shooting to confirm the problem was in fact with the speaker was a bit of a nightmare with the extra amps and crossover. 

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« Reply #2807 on: 15 Oct 2022, 09:46 pm »
Essentially simplification. One of my Middle Ts had an issue and the trouble shooting to confirm the problem was in fact with the speaker was a bit of a nightmare with the extra amps and crossover.

I had a look at your system page. I doubt you wouldn't regret going passive with your setup. You got pissed because the troubleshooting strategy was less than perfect. It's over with and now you can get back to listening. If you need something to complain about I would start with those tile floors in your basement, not so much for the reflections but for the sake of your back.

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« Reply #2808 on: 16 Oct 2022, 12:34 pm »
From the Bryston Active Speaker Brochure:
“Any of these three models can also be purchased as a passive model (therefore including an internal crossover and only requiring a traditional 2 channel amplifier) and can be upgraded in the future to a full Active system for simply the cost of the BAX-1 crossover plus the extra amplifier channels.*
* True of loudspeakers produced in 2018 or beyond”
I would confirm with Bryston.

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« Reply #2809 on: 16 Oct 2022, 01:37 pm »
Sorry that was a misprint.

It might be a good idea going forward though as we have had a lot more interest in Active systems lately.

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« Reply #2810 on: 16 Oct 2022, 02:56 pm »


   I'm glad to see this article, finally someone else confirms for me what I've been saying for years. My Model T passive speakers kick ass.
My secondary system in my bedroom/office is pretty darn good mainly due to room acoustics. When I move to the big rig the Model T's take the music to another level of enjoyment, very Live like in my opinion having been to the real thing.

My 9th Model T anniversary date is fast approaching and preparations are underway. Probably be a low key celebration this year as the big event will be the 10th anniversary. As always deciding on this years playlist is the challenge as I tend to listen to music that has been tried and proven as opposed to listening or searching for new to me material that ends up to be less than satisfying. :smoke:

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« Reply #2811 on: 17 Oct 2022, 12:58 pm »
I had a look at your system page. I doubt you wouldn't regret going passive with your setup. You got pissed because the troubleshooting strategy was less than perfect. It's over with and now you can get back to listening. If you need something to complain about I would start with those tile floors in your basement, not so much for the reflections but for the sake of your back.

I wasn't nor am I pissed, it was an inconvenience but things go wrong sometimes, that's easily understandable. It did make me reconsider going active mainly because I ended up getting another pair of floor standers while the issue was resolved. I don't need both pairs as I only have the one space in the basement - which is always a work in progress BTW is comfortable and sounds good to my ears - so I'm just weighing my options!   

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« Reply #2812 on: 17 Oct 2022, 01:01 pm »
From the Bryston Active Speaker Brochure:
Any of these three models can also be purchased as a passive model (therefore including an internal crossover and only requiring a traditional 2 channel amplifier) and can be upgraded in the future to a full Active system for simply the cost of the BAX-1 crossover plus the extra amplifier channels.*
* True of loudspeakers produced in 2018 or beyond”

I would confirm with Bryston.

Sorry that was a misprint.

It might be a good idea going forward though as we have had a lot more interest in Active systems lately.

james

@James Tanner, you're saying that the text I bolded was a misprint?

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« Reply #2813 on: 17 Oct 2022, 01:01 pm »
From the Bryston Active Speaker Brochure:
“Any of these three models can also be purchased as a passive model (therefore including an internal crossover and only requiring a traditional 2 channel amplifier) and can be upgraded in the future to a full Active system for simply the cost of the BAX-1 crossover plus the extra amplifier channels.*
* True of loudspeakers produced in 2018 or beyond”
I would confirm with Bryston.

Thank you!

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Re: Bryston Loudspeakers
« Reply #2814 on: 17 Oct 2022, 03:33 pm »
The ability to go from a passive to an active was a misprint.

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« Reply #2815 on: 17 Oct 2022, 04:07 pm »
But active to passive might be a possibility?

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« Reply #2816 on: 17 Oct 2022, 04:15 pm »
You would have to use the Passive crossover in an external box.

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« Reply #2817 on: 17 Oct 2022, 06:47 pm »
Thank you, good to know.

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Re: Bryston Loudspeakers
« Reply #2818 on: 27 Oct 2022, 02:40 pm »
Having upgraded my Model T passives to active a couple of years ago, I can't imagine going back. The step forward (more like a sprint) in sound quality is too important for me.

Cost be damned.  :icon_twisted:

In fact I'm still seriously contemplating T-Rex.

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Re: Bryston Loudspeakers
« Reply #2819 on: 22 Nov 2022, 02:22 am »
Hi all,

Looking for input from passive Model T owners and of course M. Tanner.

I’m currently shopping for true full range speakers to avoid subwoofer(s) if possible. I have a powerful amplifier (Michi S5 and his P5 companion) that is slightly tilt on the warm side of neutral as solid state goes. The combo really packed a punch.

I heard Model T a couple of times in the Bryston room at the Montreal show in the past and I always been really impressed. I’m just concerned about some comments from a professional reviewer that wrote that the T’s lacked sparkle in the highs and ultimate resolution. He also wrote that the T’s didn’t fare well in near field because of the height of the tweeters. My listening position will be an equilateral triangle of about 9 feet.

From memory, I know I would get great natural mids, dynamics and terrific bass with the T’s. But what about resolution, air and details? Decent, good, great?

For reference, I had until recently the Focal Electra 1038 BE. I really liked their resolution and speed but would like more robust low end.

Thanks for any input about my concerns.