Wet cleaning brush

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Wayner

Re: Wet cleaning brush
« Reply #40 on: 7 Oct 2011, 08:05 pm »
Any goo/glue leftover after the cleaning with the regular lint roller? Those can be very sticky, so I would be afraid of some of that goo coming off into the record surface (surface possibly, but not in the groove).

You will have to tear off the top layer of paper every once in a while to keep it from contaminating another record surface. The one on Music Direct can be rinsed between sides and reused. Just a thought. May be more economical for the MD version in the long run, only $19 (right, like that is an issue for us vinyl phinatics  :dunno: )

Bob, you are very correct, sir. I tried the lint brush, just to see if it actually works. It does for some types of debris, but I just don't see this as an everyday record cleaner. It's too much of a PITA, and it needs a chemical cleaner in the mix, at least for me.

The good news is that everybody seems to agree that the records need to be cleaned, its how we all go about it so differently that I find amusing. I guess if you find a system or technique that works to keep the records in a clean condition, that is what it is all about.

Wayner

DaveyW

Re: Wet cleaning brush
« Reply #41 on: 8 Oct 2011, 06:25 am »
For my wet cleaning I'm still very happy with these fine bristled paint brushes.



It looks like a normal paint brush doesn’t it?
But look closely at the picture.
These brushes found at a local DIY store have two different sets of bristles.
The primary bristles are very fine synthetic items, you can just about make out one of them at the bottom of the picture. Not quite as fine as a standard Carbon Fibre dry cleaning brush, but not too far away and certainly smaller than a standard “fine line” stylus.
On their own they’d be too soft and deflect when scrubbing, but there are further bristles which are much stiffer.
These are clear and show up as the shinier items in the picture about ¼” shorter than the fine bristles.
These shorter stiff bristles support the fine bristles during scrubbing, ensuring they do not deflect when gentle pressure is applied.
I use two different 2” wide brushes, one for each of the two cleaning cycles used and I've found them to be absolutely ideal for the task.



vinyl_guy

Re: Wet cleaning brush
« Reply #42 on: 22 Oct 2011, 07:21 pm »
My In the Groove arrived last week from Music Direct. I found that it takes a little practice because it is very sticky, but soon I was using it effectively to remove dust and other particles from a record that has already been cleaned on the Loricraft. It does a better job of removing dust before a play than the AudioQuest carbon fiber brush. I also saw it remove a fingerprint that was partially on the last track and partially in the dead wax area. As far as I can tell, it leaves no residue on the record. The records I have used this on play without any signs of residue left on the record. It cleans up with tap water. Here's a pic:



Laura

DEV

Re: Wet cleaning brush
« Reply #43 on: 22 Oct 2011, 07:27 pm »
The best "wet" brush, hands down, with no equal, is unavailable.  It's the Parastat by Cecil Watts, discontinued sometime in the 70's I believe.  I was able to garner an unopened NOS example, there are occasionally good condition ones available on eBay or A-gon.  When I say "wet" it's because it is used with a very small amount of water combined with a surfactant to mist a layer of moisture on the brush before cleaning.  This both picks up dust and adds a percentage of humidity to the record surface to eliminate static charge build up.  It doesn't wet the record, it adds a few molecules of moisture.  Works wonders using it's two felt pads surrounding a bristle brush center.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Record-Cleaner-Vinyl-Parastat-Model-MKIIA-LP-RARE-/170658576631?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item27bc0b38f7

I know it wasn't asked by the OP, but the best dry brush is the Acoustech Big Record Brush with antistatic cord.  The best dry cleaning bristles I've ever used, with a drain for static charge.  I got mine from Music Direct.


 

I also have one of these and it works great

DEV

Re: Wet cleaning brush
« Reply #44 on: 22 Oct 2011, 07:40 pm »
My In the Groove arrived last week from Music Direct. I found that it takes a little practice because it is very sticky, but soon I was using it effectively to remove dust and other particles from a record that has already been cleaned on the Loricraft. It does a better job of removing dust before a play than the AudioQuest carbon fiber brush. I also saw it remove a fingerprint that was partially on the last track and partially in the dead wax area. As far as I can tell, it leaves no residue on the record. The records I have used this on play without any signs of residue left on the record. It cleans up with tap water. Here's a pic:



Laura


Thanks for posting, did you just clean you record using the Loricraft and then used this roler?

Reason I ask is I also use a Loricraft, it's the 4 delux and the records appear to be clean to me so I was left  :scratch: my head after seeing your post and just wanted to confirm.

vinyl_guy

Re: Wet cleaning brush
« Reply #45 on: 22 Oct 2011, 10:53 pm »

Thanks for posting, did you just clean you record using the Loricraft and then used this roler?

Reason I ask is I also use a Loricraft, it's the 4 delux and the records appear to be clean to me so I was left  :scratch: my head after seeing your post and just wanted to confirm.

DEV,

I should have been a little clearer in my description. I use the In the Groove just prior to playing a record in place of the AudioQuest brush to remove any dust that might be on the record. Sometimes I find dust on a previously cleaned record that has been put back in the jacket. I don't need to use it if I play a record immediately after cleaning on the Loricraft.

I just received a record I bought on Discogs from a seller in Germany. The record is near mint, but there was dust on the record so I used In the Groove to remove the dust before cleaning it on the Loricraft. I have the PRC 4 too.

I hope that helps.

Laura

DEV

Re: Wet cleaning brush
« Reply #46 on: 22 Oct 2011, 11:41 pm »
DEV,

I should have been a little clearer in my description. I use the In the Groove just prior to playing a record in place of the AudioQuest brush to remove any dust that might be on the record. Sometimes I find dust on a previously cleaned record that has been put back in the jacket. I don't need to use it if I play a record immediately after cleaning on the Loricraft.

I just received a record I bought on Discogs from a seller in Germany. The record is near mint, but there was dust on the record so I used In the Groove to remove the dust before cleaning it on the Loricraft. I have the PRC 4 too.

I hope that helps.

Laura

Hi Laura, thanks for the clarification because you had me  :scratch:

Ya I hear you in regards to records in general, I make it a point to clean all my records that come into my home prior to playing for numerous reasons. Once dry I then place them into a brand new MoFi sleeve  :thumb: I find doing this the ynormally stay cleaner and very seldom do I have to use anything on them prior to playing. Wouldn't want my sexy cart to get messed up, I also only use a magic eraser to clean my stylus.










vinyl_guy

Re: Wet cleaning brush
« Reply #47 on: 30 Oct 2011, 04:01 pm »
Hi Laura, thanks for the clarification because you had me  :scratch:

Ya I hear you in regards to records in general, I make it a point to clean all my records that come into my home prior to playing for numerous reasons. Once dry I then place them into a brand new MoFi sleeve  :thumb: I find doing this the ynormally stay cleaner and very seldom do I have to use anything on them prior to playing. Wouldn't want my sexy cart to get messed up, I also only use a magic eraser to clean my stylus.







Cool looking cart DEV.

Like you, I use the MoFi sleeves and in general it helps them stay cleaner and dust-free.

I have found that my favorite use of the In the Groove is to pre clean records before I clean them on the Loricraft. It takes dust, etc off the record before applying fluid.

I use both the ZERODUST and LAST Stylus Cleaner to clean my stylus. I've gone back to the carbon fiber brush after I put a record on the TT because it is easier to manipulate. I also use the Zerostat before putting the record on the TT. All part of the ritual and to ensure the best possible sound from the record. :D

Happy Listening