[Chromisdesigns]

and doesn't cost a lot of money?  I'm ripping the remnants of my LP collection to FLAC using the Behringer UFO0202, fed by my TT and phono preamp.  Recording, de-click, and level adjustments are in Audacity, which is working well.  The problem is when it comes time to split tracks -- I can't get Audacity to do more than a really poor job, no matter what settings I use, and I've also tried CD Wave Editor, which is a **little** better at it, but still not very accurate.

I know some of the pro packages are reputed to work well, and in addition do artist/track ident and labeling as well.  But I don't want to spend a lot of money for under 100 albums (all that's left that I either don't have or not available on CD, and a few where I like the LP editions better.

Any help?  Either with suggestions for the software I have, or something else either cheap or free...right now I have fallen back to just saving each LP side as a single FLAC file, which is less than ideal!

Thanks,

Bob

[richidoo]

I have never used an automatic splitting app, but saw this on google.
http://www.ripvinyl.com/
I use an old version of Sound Forge for editing, and I mark the beginnings and ends of tracks with markers (hit M during playback, zoomin to slide it to precise location.) Then the software can convert the markings into regions which can be converted to files. I do all the editing (pops, fades, normalize) before I render to individual files. At first it was a bit tedious, but after I learned the keyboard commands in Sound Forge it really flies now. I have used Audacity for this, but it is more cumbersome. Maybe with practice I would learn to do it faster, but Sound Forge is more intuitive.

[firedog]

Never seen one that works perfectly. It's very unlikely one will. Generally they work okay on popular music or any record where there are definte breaks between the tracks; don't work well on classical music or any kind of music done as a "suite" or medley (i.e. without clear breaks of more than a split second).

However, using one saves time over not using one, even with the inaccuracies.

[Vincent Kars]

You might try to solve this the other way round.
The disadvantage of a single file is that you don’t have any information about the tracks.
This can be solved using a cue-sheet.
You might even “clue” the 2 sides together.
Sites like http://www.regeert.nl/cuesheet/ or http://cuemaster.org/ allows you to manually lookup the recording in FreeDB and generates a cue sheet.
This assumes:
-   There is a CD of this recording
-   Your media player supports cue-sheets.

[zacster]

I used Audacity a few years back to do track splitting and it worked for me.  But if you are looking for that exact spot where the break occurs it could be a problem. 

As I recall, I split the track in Audacity, gave the track a name, then used the export command to create a file for each track.  I then used iTunes to do the tagging.  Then to create a playable 24/96 DVD I used the other Apple tools.  It was all a lot to do and I only did two albums before I gave up. 

These days I would skip the DVD disk as it would just reside on my hard drive as files and play back directly from there over wifi.

[Chromisdesigns]

You might try to solve this the other way round.
The disadvantage of a single file is that you don’t have any information about the tracks.
This can be solved using a cue-sheet.
You might even “clue” the 2 sides together.
Sites like http://www.regeert.nl/cuesheet/ or http://cuemaster.org/ allows you to manually lookup the recording in FreeDB and generates a cue sheet.
This assumes:
-   There is a CD of this recording
-   Your media player supports cue-sheets.

OK, I'll beg the question -- does SqueezeBox Touch support cue sheets?

Edit:  well, according to the "what's new" info for 7.6, it does.  Now the question is, how does it actually work?  They don't really give much info.

[firedog]

Yes, it supports cue. I've got several albums recorded that way I listen to on my Touch. It also worked before 7.6

[ebag4]

I used Polder bits for about 20 albums a few years ago, it worked very well.  Here is a link:
http://www.polderbits.com/lp-to-cd.html

Best,
Ed

[mitch stl]

I'm with the others - unless one is running a hamburger production line at McDonald's, why bother with automated track splitting?

I converted roughly 2,000 LP albums and open reel tapes over a ten year period using Adobe Audition and manually split them all. That allowed very precise editing, particularly with albums where one song merged to another with no fade.

If one has already gone to the effort to record the album into the computer and process it for noise removal, why not take a bit more time to track split exactly as you wish?

My method is to record the album as one big file and process it as desired. Then I pick the spot at the end of the first song when I want to split. I highlight from that point back to the start and then cut. I paste that file into a new, blank file. After I add any additional fade in/out desired, I then save it as its own track. Repeat for the remaining songs on the album. Depending on the album, you're looking at perhaps 5 to 10 minutes of work. That's not a lot of effort to permanently have the file exactly to your preference.

[Chromisdesigns]

Yes, it supports cue. I've got several albums recorded that way I listen to on my Touch. It also worked before 7.6

Is this as simple as creating the cue sheet file and saving it to the album folder along with the .flac of the disk and the .jpg album art?  Or is there more to it -- do I have to configure SB or Squeezeserver to recognize it?

And a question about cue sheets, also?  Do the timings start from the beginning of track one on the disk?

Thanks

[JHL]

I get good results with SpinItAgain.

http://www.acoustica.com/spinitagain/

The splits are not always completely accurate but fine tuning them is pretty quick.
This software includes other features for cleaning up recordings but I don't use them.
I really enjoy the auto-naming of each track that it writes to a file.

[adamaley]

Medieval Cue splitter works perfectly for me. Well, aside from one album that was poorly ripped recently, it hasn't failed me in the 2 years I've used it. It purely splits the file and doesn't affect the sound in any way.

http://www.medieval.it/cuesplitter-pc/menu-id-71.html

[Chromisdesigns]

Medieval Cue splitter works perfectly for me. Well, aside from one album that was poorly ripped recently, it hasn't failed me in the 2 years I've used it. It purely splits the file and doesn't affect the sound in any way.

http://www.medieval.it/cuesplitter-pc/menu-id-71.html

Are you saying this works with vinyl rips?  Are there online cue sheets available for the original vinyl editions, or do you somehow make use of the cue sheets for CD editions? 

[adamaley]

Are you saying this works with vinyl rips?  Are there online cue sheets available for the original vinyl editions, or do you somehow make use of the cue sheets for CD editions?

I think using Cue Splitter after following Vincent Kars' method will be a comprehensive solution to the problem. That is assuming FreeDB has accurate information on all the Vinyl versions you possess. I don't have any knowledge of generating cue files. I use it to split one large music file that has a cue file in the same folder.