Bryston bp6 or bp25

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bkm

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Bryston bp6 or bp25
« on: 25 Jan 2011, 05:06 pm »
Hi i want to buy bryston preamp to go with bryston 3bsst. BP 6 is relatively newer but bp 25 is about 10 years old with mps-1 power supply.Both are costing almost same and I shall be using unbalanced connection only .Which will be a better buy , musically?

rob80b

Re: Bryston bp6 or bp25
« Reply #1 on: 25 Jan 2011, 05:30 pm »
 Hi bkm

You must be reading my mind, just posted a reply to AA ( http://www.audioasylum.com/forums/amp/messages/16/162226.html )  I'll just repeat it here.

The BP25 would be a much better buy at the same price even if it’s 10 years older (still has 10 years of warranty), the 25 has balanced and unbalanced inputs and outputs which rules out the BP6 for for your intended application as it is strictly unbalanced.

Image BP6





BP25/26




The BP25 also has a lower noise floor because of the external power supply.
Also keep in mind that the BP25 and the current BP26 are basically the same pre-amp, the benefits in using the MPS-2 over the MPS-1 IMO are negligible.

Robert

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Re: Bryston bp6 or bp25
« Reply #2 on: 25 Jan 2011, 06:11 pm »
Hi
I own B-100 SST which is actually B-16
 and also I bought recently 12-year old B-20. The B-20 is more transperant than B-100 SST ,so I highly recommend B-20,B-25 ,and B-26 compare to B-6 and B-16.

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« Reply #3 on: 25 Jan 2011, 06:32 pm »
I have BP25 with MPS-2 and I find it very neutral and versatile. :|

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Re: Bryston bp6 or bp25
« Reply #4 on: 25 Jan 2011, 06:53 pm »
Hi i want to buy bryston preamp to go with bryston 3bsst. BP 6 is relatively newer but bp 25 is about 10 years old with mps-1 power supply.Both are costing almost same and I shall be using unbalanced connection only .Which will be a better buy , musically?

From a versatility standpoint I'd go with the BP-25.  An option you might want to investigate is contacting Bryston service and see what upgrades are available for the BP-25, have them installed and in the process Service will do a full checkout of the unit.  I have no idea of the cost involved and I may be wrong, but my guess is you will end up with a unit that is close to the performance of a 26.  Just a thought.

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Re: Bryston bp6 or bp25
« Reply #5 on: 26 Jan 2011, 08:57 am »
This is all hearsay. I'm not reading any side by side comparisons here. The BP6 is a damn good preamp. Very close to the BP26. And if you're not using balanced connections, it's a no brainer. Be sure to get the phono option!

rob80b

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« Reply #6 on: 26 Jan 2011, 12:24 pm »
Both are costing almost same and I shall be using unbalanced connection only .Which will be a better buy , musically?

Hi bkm

the 25 has balanced and unbalanced inputs and outputs which rules out the BP6 for for your intended application as it is strictly unbalanced.

Robert

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Re: Bryston bp6 or bp25
« Reply #7 on: 26 Jan 2011, 02:38 pm »
I think the SP1.7 processor has a BP25 preamp inside.  One word about the BP25.  "Open".  :thumb:

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Re: Bryston bp6 or bp25
« Reply #8 on: 26 Jan 2011, 02:54 pm »
This is all hearsay. I'm not reading any side by side comparisons here. The BP6 is a damn good preamp. Very close to the BP26. And if you're not using balanced connections, it's a no brainer. Be sure to get the phono option!

What's all "hearsay"?  Nobody said anything derogatory about the BP-6.  He asked which would be the better buy and folks took the time to offer up some opinions from their experiences.  Now you step in with your dismissive piss ass attitude and bitch about the depth of the responses.  If you want to make this a productive discussion for the guy and actually help him & maybe others with decisions provide the comparisons and actually encourage the discussion.

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Re: Bryston bp6 or bp25
« Reply #9 on: 26 Jan 2011, 03:59 pm »
What are you talking about? I'm just giving my opinion. I'm allowed to do that, you know.

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« Reply #10 on: 26 Jan 2011, 04:45 pm »
What are you talking about? I'm just giving my opinion. I'm allowed to do that, you know.

Yes, we all know about your "I'm entitled to my opinion" mantra.  It would be nice if you could provide the lacking side by side comparisons for the fellow.  If you can't that's fine, hopefully someone will.

rob80b

Re: Bryston bp6 or bp25
« Reply #11 on: 26 Jan 2011, 06:07 pm »
Sonically all Bryston preamps are very similar and on most systems the differences would be slight, the BP25/26 having a lower noise floor and more options for connectivity would at least for me would be the logical choice given that the OP can purchase them at the same price even though the balanced options would not be used.

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I have the BP25 and a B60R whose preamp section is the BP6 so I have compared the two, the BP25 does have the edge.
Using a BCD-1 as source and the 4BSST the overall presentation with BP25 was smoother with a bit more stage width and depth, which I account to the lower noise floor and the use of an external power supply allowing the smallest details and spacial cues to come through.
Powering my Dynaudio Contours 1.3MKIIs the difference was less obvious but still perceivable but on my Dynaudio Special 25s, which incorporate the more revealing Esotar tweeter; the improvements afforded with BP25 are appreciated.
Please also take into consideration that as there is no way to power down the amp section on the B60R when using just the pre/amp section, a stand alone BP6 may indeed have a better signal to noise level and be closer to the BP25/26.

BP25/26

Musically speaking, I’ll leave that to the musicians and the recording engineers, not the equipment.

For BKM I guess it comes down to trying to make a choice between purchasing something new or going used, either preamp will get the job done.

Robert

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Re: Bryston bp6 or bp25
« Reply #12 on: 26 Jan 2011, 06:36 pm »
Ok, thank you for the comparisons. Nice review. If the BP25 is in fact better than the BP6, why did Bryston put the BP6 out in the first place? Also, if the BP25 is very close to the BP26, then why the BP26?

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Re: Bryston bp6 or bp25
« Reply #13 on: 26 Jan 2011, 06:37 pm »
Yes, we all know about your "I'm entitled to my opinion" mantra.  It would be nice if you could provide the lacking side by side comparisons for the fellow.  If you can't that's fine, hopefully someone will.

Clearly you have an agenda. And that is to chase me away from this board. Nice try, but it's not gonna work.

rob80b

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« Reply #14 on: 26 Jan 2011, 07:09 pm »
Ok, thank you for the comparisons. Nice review. If the BP25 is in fact better than the BP6, why did Bryston put the BP6 out in the first place? Also, if the BP25 is very close to the BP26, then why the BP26?

For those who cannot afford a BP25/26 nor need the extra connectivity.
The BP26 is a BP25 but with the implementaion of a beefier external power supply to power additional devices, I believe there were also a few changes in some components, which is common for Bryston as they will implement a better componet in the circuit as  they become availabe.

Robert

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Re: Bryston bp6 or bp25
« Reply #15 on: 26 Jan 2011, 08:08 pm »
Ok, thank you for the comparisons.

Oh, I forgot, you WEREN'T the one asking in the first place. Logically YOU are the one to reply then, pulling the whole discussion to yourself. Kinda egocentric are we?

Nice review.


This means a lot coming from you... Such a well respected forum member... With 2835 posts... Of which 95% is brainless oneline answers just to be present and in everyone's face...

If the BP25 is in fact better than the BP6, why did Bryston put the BP6 out in the first place?

Ah... An in-depth question, placing questionmarks at a company decision. In the process of which completely stepping over the price issue, quality issue, sales issue, etcetera...

Also, if the BP25 is very close to the BP26, then why the BP26?

The word "upgrade" comes to mind... but that must not be the case in Vegas.

Clearly you have an agenda. And that is to chase me away from this board. Nice try, but it's not gonna work.

 :( what a shame...

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Re: Bryston bp6 or bp25
« Reply #16 on: 26 Jan 2011, 08:23 pm »
Anonamerat, there you are attacking me for no good reason except the one in your warped mind. I'm tired of your silly games, pal. Quit mucking up this board with your drivel.

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« Reply #17 on: 26 Jan 2011, 08:43 pm »
Anonamerat, there you are attacking me for no good reason except the one in your warped mind. I'm tired of your silly games, pal. Quit mucking up this board with your drivel.

I am not attacking, just stating my opinion. As for "no good reason", I think there are several fellow forum members who will frown with me at this comment coming from you.
Silly games... Nah.
And drivel: I don't have the compulsive need to troll in every single thread I see and read here. Unlike you. When I write something it at least has some sort of value, whatever comes from your keyboard is just static noise without any content whatsoever.

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« Reply #18 on: 26 Jan 2011, 08:57 pm »
You are absolutely attacking me. The proof? Your posts in this thread.

Sort of value? You spend most of your time attacking me and making snide remarks about me.

Why are you so obsessed with me? And what is your point? What are you trying to prove?

Again, you continue to muck up this board with your bs. I'm sure the other members would rather you knock it off.

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Re: Bryston bp6 or bp25
« Reply #19 on: 26 Jan 2011, 09:51 pm »
Clearly you have an agenda. And that is to chase me away from this board. Nice try, but it's not gonna work.

Alas, you have found me out and my sole mission in this life. :roll: