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As I was watching the fight I was thinking that Williams drops his left hand a lot. That was prophetic... "This Saturday 27th is a triple header...Marquez vs. Katsidis, Berto vs. Freddie Hernandez and a lightweight bout."That is a bit of a slight to Celestino Caballero who can't find any dance partners at 122 and 126 so is moving to 130. Caballero at 5'11" is a Paul Williams like freak of nature...On the Spaddy front, I think Leo Dorin was robbed against him...
I'd like to take back all of the bad things I said about Katsidis. That guy lost the fight but earned my respect. He's an Aussie version of Arturo Gatti and just needs to fight guys at his skill level. Marquez outclassed him and I felt sorry for Katsidis taking that beating. There is no shame in losing...as long as a fighter performs with the courage that Katsidis displayed on Saturday night. He is one tough dude who doesn't give up and seems like a good guy on top of it. Katsidis is not an elite fighter when it comes to skills but he's got the heart of a lion. His style is entertaining but if he continues to fight guys like Marquez at this weightclass, he will not last long. It would be a shame because he is a very brave guy. He doesn't have Gatti's power but his style is entertaining
Jack and Sat- I watched this at 8am my time. Whoa, what a contest. Those elbows I think you are refering to, Robin, where not striking the face of Marquez nor do I think they were intended to. Rather he was trying to shorten up his right hand when he was in real close. If he could have found more distance I think they would have been more effective. Regardless, what a fight! The thing about Manny P. is his footwork. And his mental coordination, of course. That will be Marquez undoing. Manny will give him constant angles.
Katsidis was tailor made for Marquez, even at 37 years old. Katsidis has a poor defense, moderate hand speed and is always cominig forward. He is a game fighter with a lot of heart but lacks the skills to compete with guys like Manny and Marquez. Don't forget, Marquez is a Mexican fighter in the truest sense of the word. He likes to mix it up but is a smart defensive fighter who throws every punch in the book...and throws them very accurately in combination. Marquez also has some of the best recuperative powers I have seen, this side of Evander Hollifield. You can knock him down but you can't knock him out. A young Marquez would have finished the fight in a couple rounds, and I don't think Katsidis would have been vertical long enough to have landed that left that dropped Marquez - if the fight took place a couple years ago. It was a more entertaining fight as a result!Marquez had a tough time against Floyd because Mayweather is much faster, larger and moves his feet exceptionally well. Floyd can move and punch as well as anyone I have ever seen. Marquez spent most of the night chasing Baby Face around and not landing any good shots...all the while absorbing lots of shots from Floyd. It was a boxing clinic, but one I hated watching because one of my favorite boxers was getting schooled by a punk (although a brilliantly skilled and gifted punk). They say styles make fights and Marquez/Pacquaio would still be very entertaining the third time around (even though I think Manny would win at the present time, especially if they fight at his current weight) because Manny likes to trade punches, and leaves himself open as a result. He's not going to dance around and be "cute" like Floyd. Don't get me wrong, Manny has MONSTER cardio, is extremely fast, has a very good punch and has become a very skilled fighter, but at heart, he is a fighter and is not afraid to duke it out. That's what makes him such a pleasure to watch and that's why the third installment of the Manny/Marquez "series" would be fun to watch. I just hope Manny has enough gas left in the tank when he faces Pretty Boy Floyd. Lastly, I thought the Katsidis fight was clean and that his elbow throwing was an optical illusion caused by the angle of his arm throwing an awkward punch. If he was hitting Marquez (a guy who learned his craft in Mexico) illegally, you would have seen similar tactics from JMM. Also, Marquez's face looked pretty good after the fight (he is highly susceptable to cuts) and elbows to the head would have opened him up. Outside of a couple unintentional low blows by Marquez, the fight appeared to be clean.
I agree that Marquez does well against face first brawlers like Katsidis and Juan Diaz . Still, in both those cases, against Katsidis and in the first Diaz fight, he had to weather a hell of a storm to get the victory and that is impressive for a guy his age. Marquez started out his career as a very un-Mexican boring counter puncher. He only became must see tv since his win over Terdsak Jaendang ( who is now named Kokietgym).We haven't seen Marquez against very mobile boxers in a long time with the exception of the Mayweather fight. Floyd was to mobile and too big. Size wise it was ridiculous, Marquez' punches, when he could hit Floyd, had no effect. At 135 it may be a fight against Pacquiao, although I doubt Marquez can deal with Pacquiao's movement. At 140 and especially at the 147 Roach is calling for it is a serious beatdown of Marquez that I probably don't want to watch. Marquez has never been KO'ed, not even buy the ridiculously oversized Mayweather who hit him with clean shots. Manny would probably end up doing as he did against Margarito and, out of pity, carry him the last couple of rounds...
IIRC when Marquez fought Mayweather, Mayweather didn't even make weight and had to pay a fine. One thing about Marquez is that he isn't only an excellent boxer, the guy has heart. This guy I respect, Floyd? I did once upon a time.I'd like to see a Pac - Marquez fight to put matters at rest once and for all. It would have to be at 145 or 147. I don't think JMM would balk at this. I don't think he'd survive it either. That's Pac's comfort zone weight while JMM's is lower. When they fought twice before Pac didn't have the right hand he has now.As for Floyd, I would agree he is a fantastic defensive boxer. You don't win fights on defense however at least IMO. You don't even win on total punches thrown and connected. Judges seem to look for the power shots comparisons. The rate at which Pac dishes them out per round will leave PBF bobbing and weaving and should he decide to finally exchange like he did in the second round with Mosley those PAC power shots will land just like Mosley's did. Mosely just didn't have the stamina to keep up the pressure. Pac doesn't have that problem. Pac just may make PBF look like a more graceful version of Joshua Clottey. All defense, no chance to attack.
