[Construct]

Yes, the KEF 207/2's deliver terrific music, with detail, smooth treble extension, soundstaging, depth, PRAT, slam, muscular bass and a sense of intimacy that belies their size.
 
Steve

They had one of the better sounding rooms when they premiered.

[Laundrew]

Yes, the KEF 207/2's deliver terrific music, with detail, smooth treble extension, soundstaging, depth, PRAT, slam, muscular bass and a sense of intimacy that belies their size.
 
Steve

"PRAT" 

Be well...

[Construct]

"PRAT" 

Be well...

I remember that term... a Brit-ism "Pace Rhythm and Timing"  Coined  originally (IIRC)  for components like cd players.

[Laundrew]

I remember that term... a Brit-ism "Pace Rhythm and Timing"  Coined  originally (IIRC)  for components like cd players.

Thanks 

Be well...

[VOLKS]

In a perfect world, my 28's would be driving a pair of these beasties 



be well...

These JBL's i would be curious hearing.

[Construct]

Thanks 

Be well...

NP...it always struck me as a bit nebulous and subjective.  "PRAT"  is basically "Timing"  in a nutshell.  Having 3 terms to describe 1 word seemed like overkill to me- or a lot of market pretense.  Hey... anyone remember "Digital ready??" 

[Construct]

These JBL's i would be curious hearing.

Those and the new Klipsch palladium ($20K)  are intriguing to me.  I have read that they are both exceptional.

[VOLKS]

Those and the new Klipsch palladium ($20K)  are intriguing to me.  I have read that they are both exceptional.

Yes the Klipsch Palladium as well i would like to hear.

[Laundrew]

These JBL's i would be curious hearing.

The Everests would definitely put a hole in our “buy an old church fund.”  Perhaps I will have to cheap-out down the road and purchase a pair of K2’s instead - even though they are not as good looking as the Arrays...



Be well…

[VOLKS]

The Everests would definitely put a hole in our “buy an old church fund.”  Perhaps I will have to cheap-out down the road and purchase a pair of K2’s instead - even though they are not as good looking as the Arrays...



Be well…

I have to admit.............i dont mind the look of the Arrays as much as i used to..........seeing them over and over again........the look kinda grows on you.

[eclein]

I'm just a JBL fool myself...they all look good!!!

[skunark]

Yes the Klipsch Palladium as well i would like to hear.

Klipsch and JBL are also at best buy. 

[srb]

"PRAT" 

Not my term.
 

However, if you do they [B&W 800D] will reward you with absolutely terrific music, with detail, smooth treble extension, soundstaging, depth, PRAT, slam, muscular bass and a sense of intimacy that belies their size.

Yes, the KEF 207/2's deliver terrific music, with detail, smooth treble extension, soundstaging, depth, PRAT, slam, muscular bass and a sense of intimacy that belies their size.

Steve

[Phil A]

Magnepans are a specialty product, I'm talking about the standard speakers with cone drivers. There's nothing glorious there. How comes some of those boxes are way more expensive than your full kitchen cabinetry????

It's a scam....

Nap.

Really - do you know how much even decent but not super expensive kitchen cabinets cost?  I do.  I had my cabinets refaced (to save) and bought 2 things, a wine rack and one cabinet.  A single kitchen cabinet (like a foot and half by three and a half feet and naturally no top finished) can cost more than $1k.  A speaker has to have much more in the way of design for acoustic isolation and to work in sizes with the drivers.  Nice speaker cabinets can easily be over $3k for a pair unless you manufacture them in house.  It's certainly not cheap, especially in relation to many drivers.

[Phil A]

This is but one web site.  Wood and wood work does not come cheap -  http://www.carletonwoodworking.com/speaker.html

[vegasdave]

These JBL's i would be curious hearing.

I've heard them. They're fantastic! But, the drivers and assembly will be done in Mexico...

[vegasdave]

Let us not forget about the 207/2's 

Be well...

Or Dynaudios. Like the Contour and Confidence series.

http://www.dynaudio.com/eng/systems/lines/contour/contour_s_5_4.php#

http://www.dynaudio.com/eng/systems/lines/confidence/confidence_c_4.php

[HAITIMAN]

This is pretty simple.  The market shrunk over a period of 20 years.  It's now pretty much leveled off and this is the new real market size for high end audio products.  This new smaller market size is not big enough to support brick and mortar stores except in a very few specific atypical cities (LA, NYC for example).  The audio industry has been in denial of this because the home theater boom allowed them to ignore the obvious market shift.  Now, even that has mostly dried up.  The old larger market size is never coming back as those dollars are now owned by many other industries.  However, this new smaller market size IS big enough to keep companies like Bryston in business, but only the companies smart enough to adapt to the new market will survive.  You absolutely must market via the internet to reach the very geographically diverse customers.  You also must provide new marketing strategies that are mail order friendly like 30 day home trials.  You must lower prices as the 50% retail markup is inappropriate for internet sales.  You must allow free market pricing for authorized internet dealers.  That's the future whether you like it or not.

You hit the nail on the head. Absolutely correct. And you can find really great, hand-made stuff out there, that leave your friends asking..."where did you get that?"

[Laundrew]

I've heard them. They're fantastic! But, the drivers and assembly will be done in Mexico...

I just e-mailed JBL and inquired if the K2 S9900 speakers are destined for manufacture in Mexico or China - I hope that I get a reply and perhaps we may be able to put this issue to rest.

 

Be well...

[Napalm]

Really - do you know how much even decent but not super expensive kitchen cabinets cost?

I do and very well. A brand new nice kitchen is $20-25k. Veneered, stained, lacquered, with expensive hardware like Blum Tandem / Blumotion slides. And this is custom work at your order/choice.

Now compare with two industrially, mass produced boxes. How do you justify the same price.

 

Nap.