Is Prog Rock Dead?

Ericus Rex · « **on:** 23 Apr 2010, 09:49 pm »

A friend has lent me his Genesis 1970-75 box and this music is GREAT! It leaves me thinking that prog rock hasn't progressed at all in the last 35 years. From what I've listened to it has actually regressed from this time period. Who am I missing?

Mike Nomad · « **Reply #1 on:** 23 Apr 2010, 10:11 pm »

For me, King Crimson is the only group that still lives up to the genre's name. I've found some signs of life on the Psych/Space Rock front (which I have always thought of as the blue collar side of Prog) with Ozric Tentacles.

JakeJ · « **Reply #2 on:** 23 Apr 2010, 10:15 pm »

Dream Theater
Spock's Beard
Liquid Tension Experiment I & II
Bruford/Levin Upper Extremities
Kaipa
Porcupine Tree
Office of Strategic Intelligence

Also go to CDBaby.com for some unknown indie prog rock.

Now get rockin'!

R_burke · « **Reply #3 on:** 23 Apr 2010, 10:26 pm »

Transatlantic
King Crimson (still doing it after all these years)
Klause Schulze
Rush
Flower Kings
Ozric Tentacles

Lots of good ProgRock still going on

SlushPuppy · « **Reply #4 on:** 23 Apr 2010, 10:30 pm »

Riverside

pjchappy · « **Reply #5 on:** 23 Apr 2010, 10:34 pm »

What's your definition of Progressive Rock? I've seen some bands "listed" under prog rock consistently and others just randomly. For instance, I have always seen Genesis (well, older Genesis at least) listed under Progressive Rock. Every once in awhile, I'll see Pink Floyd listed under Progressive Rock.

Thanks,

Paul

zybar · « **Reply #6 on:** 23 Apr 2010, 10:43 pm »

Rush, Yes, ELP, ELO, Pink Floyd, Genesis, Jethro Tull, and the Moody Blues are all examples of excellent Progressive Rock bands.

While I know there are newer bands that were labeled as Progressive Rock, none achieved the same commercial success as the bands listed above.

Here is what allmusic.com says about Progressive Rock:

http://allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=77:374

George

RUR · « **Reply #7 on:** 23 Apr 2010, 10:48 pm »

Quote from: zybar on 23 Apr 2010, 10:43 pm

Rush, Yes, ELP, ELO, Pink Floyd, Genesis, Jethro Tull, and the Moody Blues are all examples of excellent Progressive Rock bands.

George, are you familiar with Renaissance?

zybar · « **Reply #8 on:** 23 Apr 2010, 10:51 pm »

Quote from: RUR on 23 Apr 2010, 10:48 pm

George, are you familiar with Renaissance?

I don't. Can you recommend something?

George

zybar · « **Reply #9 on:** 23 Apr 2010, 10:54 pm »

Quote from: R_burke on 23 Apr 2010, 10:26 pm

Transatlantic
King Crimson (still doing it after all these years)
Klause Schulze
Rush
Flower Kings
Ozric Tentacles

Lots of good ProgRock still going on

Rush is still going strong and touring this summer. Their last album (Snakes and Arrows) was a very good effort and was strong from start to finish.

While they haven't put out an album in a few years, I was recently introduced to the Flower Kings and really enjoy their music.

George

pjchappy · « **Reply #10 on:** 23 Apr 2010, 10:58 pm »

Quote from: zybar on 23 Apr 2010, 10:43 pm

Rush, Yes, ELP, ELO, Pink Floyd, Genesis, Jethro Tull, and the Moody Blues are all examples of excellent Progressive Rock bands.

While I know there are newer bands that were labeled as Progressive Rock, none achieved the same commercial success as the bands listed above.

Here is what allmusic.com says about Progressive Rock:

http://allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=77:374

George

Thanks, George!

The third parenthetical in the following (from your link) may be why I don't always see PF listed under progressive rock:

Prog-rock tends to be more traditionally melodic (even when multi-sectioned compositions replace normal song structures), more literary (poetry or sci-fi/fantasy novels), and more oriented toward classically trained instrumental technique (with the exception of Pink Floyd).

Paul

doorman · « **Reply #11 on:** 23 Apr 2010, 11:00 pm »

Progressive rock is alive and well!
http://www.abstractlogix.com
Don

*Scotty* · « **Reply #12 on:** 23 Apr 2010, 11:10 pm »

I am a Hawkwind fan for space/SF rock.
Scotty

Mike Nomad · « **Reply #13 on:** 23 Apr 2010, 11:26 pm »

Quote from: *Scotty* on 23 Apr 2010, 11:10 pm

I am a Hawkwind fan for space/SF rock.
Scotty

The Stasis UA Years compilation, along with Palace Springs, gets a lot of play at my house.

mchuckp · « **Reply #14 on:** 24 Apr 2010, 12:34 am »

If you haven't heard them, Gong is my favorite prog rock band from yesteryear.

Check out:
Angel's Egg
You
Live, Etc.

Guitarist Steve Hillage went on to do some very cool work solo:
Fish Rising is my fav

If you can find it, Khan-Space Shanty was a Hillage side project that was AWESOME.

It is really tough to find prog rock these days but there are some cool acts that have a prog rock aspect about them and doing concept albums.

The Mars Volta -These guys are an INSANE blend of prog/metal
Radiohead- Definitely one of the most creative acts in the last decade
The Decemberists-I wouldn't call them prog, but they do have some prog rock tendencies in some of their stuff. 'The Hazards of Love' is a great concept album.

Phish is defined as a "Jam Band" but they have a lot of tunes that are pure prog rock or have insanely composed sections of some of their tunes that have me shaking my head in disbelief. The tune "Reba" comes to mind.

orthobiz · « **Reply #15 on:** 24 Apr 2010, 12:48 am »

Quote from: mchuckp on 24 Apr 2010, 12:34 am

The Decemberists-I wouldn't call them prog, but they do have some prog rock tendencies in some of their stuff. 'The Hazards of Love' is a great concept album.

I call 'em Prog. Hazards is GREAT.

My yesteryear favorite is CRACK THE SKY!!!!!

Paul

Ericus Rex · « **Reply #16 on:** 24 Apr 2010, 01:38 am »

I guess what I'm asking is when did prog rock lose it's ground-breaking mandate? I know and love many of the bands mentioned above and the only ones I consider ground-breaking aren't considered prog rock and the ones that are considered prog rock aren't at all ground-breaking (but great music none-the-less). See what I mean?

RUR · « **Reply #17 on:** 24 Apr 2010, 02:03 am »

Quote from: zybar on 23 Apr 2010, 10:51 pm

I don't. Can you recommend something?

George

My favorite is Scheherazade, though Novella is another excellent introduction. Get the Wounded Bird or Repertoire.de remasters, if you can.

Wonderful classical influence and Annie Haslam has a one in a million voice.

PhishPhan · « **Reply #18 on:** 24 Apr 2010, 02:07 am »

Quote from: mchuckp on 24 Apr 2010, 12:34 am

If you haven't heard them, Gong is my favorite prog rock band from yesteryear.

Check out:
Angel's Egg
You
Live, Etc.

Guitarist Steve Hillage went on to do some very cool work solo:
Fish Rising is my fav

If you can find it, Khan-Space Shanty was a Hillage side project that was AWESOME.

It is really tough to find prog rock these days but there are some cool acts that have a prog rock aspect about them and doing concept albums.

The Mars Volta -These guys are an INSANE blend of prog/metal
Radiohead- Definitely one of the most creative acts in the last decade
The Decemberists-I wouldn't call them prog, but they do have some prog rock tendencies in some of their stuff. 'The Hazards of Love' is a great concept album.

Phish is defined as a "Jam Band" but they have a lot of tunes that are pure prog rock or have insanely composed sections of some of their tunes that have me shaking my head in disbelief. The tune "Reba" comes to mind.

I love both Phish and prog rock, though I never really thought to classify them as such. I can see what you're saying though. Phish is a group of highly talented musicians... as is the case with most prog bands.

RUR · « **Reply #19 on:** 24 Apr 2010, 02:08 am »

Quote from: *Scotty* on 23 Apr 2010, 11:10 pm

I am a Hawkwind fan for space/SF rock.
Scotty

Saw them in concert mid-70's under......ummm......suitable circumstances and it was a trip.