Integrated vs. Separates; BDA-1 vs. internal DAC

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Chris Hergott

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Integrated vs. Separates; BDA-1 vs. internal DAC
« on: 7 Dec 2009, 06:12 pm »
Hello All - I'm thinking about building a Bryston 2 channel system and have a few questions.  I dont' have a huge room (17ftX16ft)  - would a B100SST be sufficient or spending the extra cash on a BP26/4Bsst2 be more appropriate?  What extra benefits would there be with the separates option?  Also, is the extra cost of the BDA-1 over the internal DAC in either the B100 or the BP 26 worth it if I only intend to connect an airport express and my Cambridge audio CD player (640aV2)? I listen to everything from pink floyd to U2 to Stan Getz to some classical. 

Any input would be helpful

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Chris

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Re: Integrated vs. Separates; BDA-1 vs. internal DAC
« Reply #1 on: 7 Dec 2009, 06:56 pm »
Hi Chris,

What speakers are you using?

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Re: Integrated vs. Separates; BDA-1 vs. internal DAC
« Reply #2 on: 7 Dec 2009, 07:21 pm »
Hi James - as a matter of fact - I will require speakers as well - I'm building this system from scratch.  I should have access to PMC where I live - perhaps TB2i or GB1i.  I've also wondered about Totem speakers - perhaps the Staff's - I like the idea of an all Canadian system.  Probably the most important quality to me is imaging/soundstage.

Thanks for your help,

Chris

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« Reply #3 on: 7 Dec 2009, 07:46 pm »
Ok - the B100 would work fine with the speakers you mentioned so the only advantage of the separates would be the flexibility in integrating a bigger amp later on.

The DAC in the B100 is limited to 96/24 resolution so as long as you do not see yourself going to higher bit rates later on then there is no need to go for the external DAC.

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Re: Integrated vs. Separates; BDA-1 vs. internal DAC
« Reply #4 on: 7 Dec 2009, 07:49 pm »
Thanks James - much appreciated.

Chris

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« Reply #5 on: 7 Dec 2009, 11:41 pm »
Ok - the B100 would work fine with the speakers you mentioned so the only advantage of the separates would be the flexibility in integrating a bigger amp later on.
james

The B100 could be used as a pre-amp if he needed a bigger amp in the future.

The DAC in the B100 is limited to 96/24 resolution so as long as you do not see yourself going to higher bit rates later on then there is no need to go for the external DAC.

james

Does the internal DAC upsample to 96/24, or does it accept up to 96/24 and leave lower bit rates alone?  I'm assuming the answer would be the same for the B60 as it is for the B100.

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« Reply #6 on: 7 Dec 2009, 11:44 pm »
Ok - the B100 would work fine with the speakers you mentioned so the only advantage of the separates would be the flexibility in integrating a bigger amp later on.
james

The B100 could be used as a pre-amp if he needed a bigger amp in the future.

The DAC in the B100 is limited to 96/24 resolution so as long as you do not see yourself going to higher bit rates later on then there is no need to go for the external DAC.

james

Does the internal DAC upsample to 96/24, or does it accept up to 96/24 and leave lower bit rates alone?  I'm assuming the answer would be the same for the B60 as it is for the B100.

Hi Stu,

Yes it upsamples.

james

b5pt9

Re: Integrated vs. Separates; BDA-1 vs. internal DAC
« Reply #7 on: 8 Dec 2009, 12:29 am »
A 16x17 foot room would be 2176 cuft volume assuming 8' ceiling.  I wonder at what point would FB1's be recommended over GB1's to ensure adequate oomph to fill the room?

And Chris would you be considering a subwoofer with TB2's?  As good as TB2's are they do not compare with the bass extension of the PMC floorstanders due to the smaller cabinet and shorter transmission line.

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Re: Integrated vs. Separates; BDA-1 vs. internal DAC
« Reply #8 on: 8 Dec 2009, 04:43 pm »
I'd like to keep things simple I think - so no, I hadn't considered a subwoofer.  Thanks for your suggestions regarding the larger floorstanders and the size of the room.  I don't have a good sense of what's required; I will likely defer those decisions to my dealer. 

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Re: Integrated vs. Separates; BDA-1 vs. internal DAC
« Reply #9 on: 9 Dec 2009, 04:13 am »
Well I'm not certain on FB1 vs GB1 for your room size, kind of hoping someone else would comment.  There is a PMC rep who visits this board from time to time.

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Re: Integrated vs. Separates; BDA-1 vs. internal DAC
« Reply #10 on: 10 Dec 2009, 10:30 pm »
Hi

Anyone compared the Thiel SCS 4 vs the TB2i?

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Re: Integrated vs. Separates; BDA-1 vs. internal DAC
« Reply #11 on: 10 Dec 2009, 11:13 pm »
Anyone have a sense of prices in Canadian Dollars for PMC speakers - the DB1i, Tb2i, FB1, GB1?  Anyone have any experience with LB1's?

Thanks

Chris