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Crimson

Re: Snow Leopard.
« Reply #20 on: 29 Aug 2009, 03:42 am »
No offense taken. Thanks for the explanation.

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Crimson

Re: Snow Leopard.
« Reply #21 on: 29 Aug 2009, 04:09 am »
Wow. Seems I got about 10GB of HD space back. Where did all that bloat go?
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Nels Ferre

Re: Snow Leopard.
« Reply #22 on: 29 Aug 2009, 04:37 am »
Leopard loads every printer driver known to mankind. Snow Leopard loads the drivers for the printers detected in Leopard (the printer you use) and only adds the drivers that Apple deems the most popular. Should you add another printer later, Snow Leopard will add the necessary driver.
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planet10

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Re: Snow Leopard.
« Reply #23 on: 29 Aug 2009, 04:54 am »
Quote from: Crimson on 29 Aug 2009, 04:09 am
Wow. Seems I got about 10GB of HD space back. Where did all that bloat go?

A large part of it is the removal of PPC support, and a lot of recoding for greater efficiency.

dave
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Mr Content

Re: Snow Leopard.
« Reply #24 on: 6 Sep 2009, 11:58 am »
Quote from: ted_b on 29 Aug 2009, 03:28 am
Crimson,
No offense but don't add to the confusion.  EFI64 Macbooks cannot boot to 64 bit with the 6-4 hold down.  And I didn't mean intentional crippling, but the holding down of 6 and 4 (i.e. boot to 64 bit mode) does not work on EFI64 Macbooks (and of course not ever on EFI32 ones)...it is "crippled (your words)" by Apple temporarily until more apps are available and tested.  For the rest of you...Mac Mini users, (or Macbook Pro, iMac etc) those users will find that even though their machine defaults to 32 bit kernel boots, they can over-ride by holding 6-4.  I can't, even though i have an EFi64 machine.  The only machines that automagically boot into 64 bit are the X-Server ones.  Net/net, doesn't matter....rhetorical argument.  The 64 bit kernel doesn't reach its sweetspot until later when Apple machines have 32 Gb of RAM, and we all can run 64 bit apps in a 32 bit kernel nicely anywho.  My 4 GB machine would actually underperform in 64 bit mode (Mercman reports that in his 64 bit mode the Amarra/iTunes test sounded slightly worse than the 32 bit kernel...my point)  ; I'm happy running 64 bit apps in my 32 bit world thank you.   :D

In view of the fore-mentioned, are there any advantages to running snow leopard on an Imac with GB ram? It seems Not :(

Mr C :D
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jaywills

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Re: Snow Leopard.
« Reply #25 on: 6 Sep 2009, 01:41 pm »
In response to Mr C's inquiry, I'm beginning to think "yes" unless the 1gb of ram hinder's Snow Leopard's performance on the MacBook, which I don't know.  I've been futzing around with different playback software since reading the Amarra thread, specifically comparing Play, Songbird, iTunes and Front Row with the sound that I get from Slimserver. 

Since I've installed Snow Leopard, iTunes and Front Row playback, at least initially, sound better than the Leopard iterations.  I've been running the Toslink out of my iMac 3.06 (4gb ram) at an upsampled rate of 24/96 via Audio Midi Setup into a TacT 2.2x DAC, switching between the TacT's digital inputs to compare Slimserver (via USB) with whichever playback software I'm using on the iMac at the time (via Toslink) (I've also been comparing USB via Slimserver with USB via a Trends USB>S/PDIF conversion box using the above-mentioned softwares).  I've run the Toslink output at either 16/44.1 and at 24/96, while my Squeezebox only gets 16/44.1. 

Initially, I think I prefer Front Row at 24/96 in Snow Leopard over everything else.  Snow Leopard certainly did seem to close the gap between old iTunes and Play and Songbird, for me at least.  Still early in my comparison listening, but my initial impressions are favorable.  Cordially,
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Nels Ferre

Re: Snow Leopard.
« Reply #26 on: 6 Sep 2009, 04:42 pm »
I like Snow Leopard better too, non upsampling in MIDI into my MHDT Labs Havana DAC.

BTW the newest release of Max works fine with Snow Leopard.

You might consider a RAM upgrade- it is easy and inexpensive as long as you don't buy from Apple.
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Mr Content

Re: Snow Leopard.
« Reply #27 on: 7 Sep 2009, 07:14 am »
Sorry, my post should have read 4gb of ram. Latest chipset iMac. 2.92

Mr C :D
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Nels Ferre

Re: Snow Leopard.
« Reply #28 on: 7 Sep 2009, 01:21 pm »
Seeing as you have plenty of RAM, Snow Leopard seems like a no brainer. Go for it.
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cfcjb

Re: Snow Leopard.
« Reply #29 on: 29 Sep 2009, 10:58 am »
I was just wondering, has anybody installed Snow Leopard on a headless Mac Mini?
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JohnR

Re: Snow Leopard.
« Reply #30 on: 29 Sep 2009, 11:06 am »
Just curious on that one - why does headless make any difference?

FWIW, I wasn't all that happy with my SL install. The main issue was solved by a new driver for my broadband modem; however I have a PowerPC binary that doesn't run, despite installing Rosetta. Perhaps a reinstall of that software is needed too (just haven't got to it). I have also had my Mac (Air) freeze a few times, seemingly related to my CF card reader. I have never had anything like that happen with Tiger or Leopard... so my personal judgment at this point is if it ain't broke, don't fix it; but if you like to play, or have some specific reason for the upgrade, go for it.

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cfcjb

Re: Snow Leopard.
« Reply #31 on: 29 Sep 2009, 11:10 am »
Well I tried to install SL without a monitor and it didn't go that great. I use screen sharing with my macbook and after my mini rebooted part of the way thru the install I lost contact with it. I was able to reboot the mini and connect via firewire but when I tried to restart the upgrade process by clicking on the install disk it wouldn't let me.
So I'm just wondering if anyone has been able to upgrade their mini without a monitor and if so, how?

Sorry to read that your upgrade didn't pan out.
You could always do a clean install and go back to Leopard.
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Crimson

Re: Snow Leopard.
« Reply #32 on: 29 Sep 2009, 11:21 am »
Quote from: cfcjb on 29 Sep 2009, 11:10 am
Well I tried to install SL without a monitor and it didn't go that great. I use screen sharing with my macbook and after my mini rebooted part of the way thru the install I lost contact with it. I was able to reboot the mini and connect via firewire but when I tried to restart the upgrade process by clicking on the install disk it wouldn't let me.
So I'm just wondering if anyone has been able to upgrade their mini without a monitor and if so, how?

Sorry to read that your upgrade didn't pan out.
You could always do a clean install and go back to Leopard.

I'd definitely plug in a monitor temporarily for an OS upgrade (i.e. do the install locally). Once installed, you should be fine.
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Ferdi

Re: Snow Leopard.
« Reply #33 on: 29 Sep 2009, 12:05 pm »
Have upgraded to Snow Leopard on an Intel Mini with 4GB of RAM (only 3 usable) starting from the latest 10.5. Upgrade went smoothly, fast and so far without much issue.

Ferdi
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Mr Content

Re: Snow Leopard.
« Reply #34 on: 2 Oct 2009, 07:20 am »
SL is running smoothly on our 2-92ghz imac 4gb ram. But our other imac 2-8ghz running leopard is also running perfectly, and I really cant see any need to install SL on that machine. I dont seem to be able to do anything on the SL imac that I cant do on the leopard imac :thumb:

Mr C :D
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