Bryston future products

docmojo · « **Reply #200 on:** 3 Apr 2010, 05:32 am »

Any more info on the music player? How is the sound? Is there any idea of a release date? Any updates would would great!!

James Tanner · « **Reply #201 on:** 3 Apr 2010, 11:51 am »

Quote from: docmojo on 3 Apr 2010, 05:32 am

Any more info on the music player? How is the sound? Is there any idea of a release date? Any updates would would great!!

i have the prototype at home now and putting it through its paces. i think there is work to do yet.

james

vegasdave · « **Reply #202 on:** 4 Apr 2010, 02:20 am »

How much storage will it have?

Phil A · « **Reply #203 on:** 4 Apr 2010, 02:38 am »

Quote from: vegasdave on 4 Apr 2010, 02:20 am

How much storage will it have?

James has previously indicated it is a player only - no storage and will have a front and back USB input and ethernet

vegasdave · « **Reply #204 on:** 4 Apr 2010, 03:12 am »

Oh. Ok. How does it work then?

Phil A · « **Reply #205 on:** 4 Apr 2010, 03:29 am »

Quote from: vegasdave on 4 Apr 2010, 03:12 am

Oh. Ok. How does it work then?

See the reply by James to my question on page 8 post number 154

Phil A · « **Reply #206 on:** 4 Apr 2010, 03:31 am »

This was his answer:
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« Reply #154 on: 1 Feb 2010, 04:35 AM »
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Quote from: Phil A on 1 Feb 2010, 04:00 AM
James - how would one select the particular music they wish to play say for example with a USB thumb drive? Is there a monitor output with a menu or some type of display on the unit with a menu to navigate?

You can use an iPod or iTouch (the new iPad looks promising as well) or a Web-brouser on the home network to access and manage your music files.

james
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vegasdave · « **Reply #207 on:** 4 Apr 2010, 05:39 am »

Thanks.

Elizabeth · « **Reply #208 on:** 17 May 2010, 03:34 am »

1) Bryston could have a "Headphone upgrade option" on the BP 26. Then a really good headphone amp could be added to the BP-26. Say a $400. option. It couldn't take up much space to add a few bits in there to upgrade the headphone out to 'really great' status. I own four headphone amps. one, The notorious 'exploding' Singlepower is even dangerous (which, actually, is why i bought it.. delicious.) From $250 Little Dot III to a TaDaC, then the SinglePower MPX3, and a Rudistor Rpx-33 II
2) a separate box (sized ala Bp-26/phono 1.5 with a power connection to the PS used by BP-26 and 1.5) that would be (analog only)TONE CONTROLS.
Most of you do not really remember tone controls. They worked, they were really nice, they did cool things. Then some audiophooles decided they did 'bad' things and did not want them. ALL the manufacturers of high end stuff dropped tone controls.
A separate QUALITY box, with a variety of options worthy of a Bryston product: Standard rotary tone controls,three: high, mid, bass. Defeatable of course.
a variable setting Loudness control with a knob, defeatable of course.
A separate 'tilt', shelve, and parametric EQ with at least 3 separate settings. a 'tube' setting which in one switch would give a 'tube sound'
All this is one box, analogue, not digital. I want one, want a person to try one out to develope it.. pick me. (if you want to make a digital one, just buy a behringer EQ2496, perk up it's analogue circuits, and put your name on it)
Bryston could be famous:" the company that brough back tone controls!!!"
3) make the BP-26 with gain adjust. My BP-26 has way too much gain. OR make a switch for the volume control to change its setting. For example my Audio Research SP-15 preamp has a front switch that cuts the vol in steps up to 24dB next to the main vol knob. This is a really useful feature. even a three position switch would do wonders for the BP-26
MY volume control on my BP-26 is useful from 8 oclock only to (at best with the phono) 2 oclock, with Cd straight in, its 8 oclock to 9 oclock max! That sucks. i use a separate tubed pre to both tube-up the Cd sound, AND cut the volume!! and yeah, i have the switch on the 4B-SST2 correnty done. (I wish I bought the pro model with the 4dB cut switch)
4) a USB gizmo. Since i know nearly NOTHING about computer audio, all I can say is it seems to be the future of audio.

Napalm · « **Reply #209 on:** 17 May 2010, 11:18 am »

Quote from: Elizabeth on 17 May 2010, 03:34 am

[...]TONE CONTROLS.[...]

My vote though would be for a BP6 TC with bass and treble controls. And a "tone defeat" or "tone bypass" switch.

Bryston may even name it the BP6 DC (for Dumb/Deaf Consumer). I'll buy it and take the stigma.

Nap.

Napalm · « **Reply #210 on:** 17 May 2010, 02:19 pm »

Quote from: Elizabeth on 17 May 2010, 03:34 am

[...]
Most of you do not really remember tone controls. They worked, they were really nice, they did cool things. Then some audiophooles decided they did 'bad' things and did not want them. ALL the manufacturers of high end stuff dropped tone controls.
[...]

It is amazing to see how much damage some influential magazines run by self-proclaimed "golden ears" were able to do to the audio gear customer.

Of course, once the real tone controls are eliminated, we could sell anomalous $2000 cables that work like tone controls.....

Nap.

werd · « **Reply #211 on:** 17 May 2010, 03:10 pm »

Quote from: Napalm on 17 May 2010, 02:19 pm

It is amazing to see how much damage some influential magazines run by self-proclaimed "golden ears" were able to do to the audio gear customer.

Of course, once the real tone controls are eliminated, we could sell anomalous $2000 cables that work like tone controls.....

Nap.

I cant believe you listen to all that classical and still insist on tone conrols. I guess if you dont mind losing the entire orchestral back row then have at er.....

Napalm · « **Reply #212 on:** 17 May 2010, 03:27 pm »

Quote from: werd on 17 May 2010, 03:10 pm

I cant believe you listen to all that classical and still insist on tone conrols. I guess if you dont mind losing the entire orchestral back row then have at er.....

They are absolutely harmless if a "tone bypass" switch is provided. And they are tremendously useful when you have something like my bedroom setup - a pair of rear ported bookshelves sitting on a drawer chest and stuck against the wall near a corner. There's no other way to place them. I was contemplating a B60 for them but I need around -6dB bass attenuation there. So Denon will do. Yes, I can hear the difference between "Pure Direct", "Tone Defeat On" and "Tone Defeat Off", but between that and boomy bass I'll take the "Tone control on" any day thank you.

Nap.

Napalm · « **Reply #213 on:** 17 May 2010, 03:48 pm »

BTW Werd, are you set up for near field or far field listening? I could understand your position if you were a near-field guy. And I can also understand Bryston's heritage of no tone controls since they started with the professional market in mind (where near field monitors rule, room issues are addressed with acoustic treatments, and there is some other better suited gear at hand to provide "tone control" in case it would be needed).

However if you try to go for far field you'll notice that you'll have a completely different set of issues to deal with. Do you really think that those switches on the PMC speakers were gratuitous?

Nap.

Mag · « **Reply #214 on:** 17 May 2010, 03:58 pm »

I'm setup for near field listening. Being that I use an av/receiver I could probably change distance and timing of speakers and try far field listening. I should give it a try.

Paradigm speakers like the monitor 7's I found to be forward in presentation. Whereas the 9's are more laid back. However in my long narrow room the sound is forward near field.

Napalm · « **Reply #215 on:** 17 May 2010, 05:23 pm »

Mag,

I think that technically speaking you're set for far field.

Near field is defined by having mostly the direct sound hitting your ears. This is achieved by placing the speakers well inside the room and sitting close to them. So the direct sound's amplitude is vastly higher than the reflected sound's one. Also the delay between direct/reflected is big enough so they will be separated by your ear/brain.

When you hear about "bring the speakers one third into the room at about 6' between them then sit in an equilateral triangle blah blah" it's about setting you for near field listening.

It's cool except 1) it has a very narrow sweet spot 2) wife will fight tooth and nail against this kind of room decor.

Nap.

James Tanner · « **Reply #216 on:** 17 May 2010, 05:25 pm »

Is this "nearfield"

james

Napalm · « **Reply #217 on:** 17 May 2010, 05:30 pm »

Those are highly recommended, I also enjoy these:

Nap.

Napalm · « **Reply #218 on:** 17 May 2010, 05:32 pm »

Can we have Stereophile review both and decide the winner? I'd just love to see pics of Michael Fremer during the listening sessions....

Nap.

werd · « **Reply #219 on:** 17 May 2010, 05:48 pm »

Quote from: Napalm on 17 May 2010, 03:27 pm

They are absolutely harmless if a "tone bypass" switch is provided. And they are tremendously useful when you have something like my bedroom setup - a pair of rear ported bookshelves sitting on a drawer chest and stuck against the wall near a corner. There's no other way to place them. I was contemplating a B60 for them but I need around -6dB bass attenuation there. So Denon will do. Yes, I can hear the difference between "Pure Direct", "Tone Defeat On" and "Tone Defeat Off", but between that and boomy bass I'll take the "Tone control on" any day thank you.

Nap.

Napalm, they are not completely harmless, the bypass switch is another device the signal has to pass through.
Also implementation and its affect on the power supply is largely misunderstood when people start talking about tone controls. Almost all tone contols will remained power even after disengaged. Also all tone controls use gating now so dont go there. Get your sound with passage engagement or using your denon reciever for the less serious systems...