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I don't know what empirical proof you want but I can tell you that I hear less pops and tick on most used records after I run them though my VPI cleaning machine. I will go home tonight and look at new, clean, and used (dirty) records with my daughter's EyeClop (x200) and report what I see.I can see how brushes and pads only with cleaning solution might push dirt more into the grooves but vacuum cleaning should clean and give at least no worse sound ( I say better).
Linn and Rega contend that the dust you see is lying harmlessly on the record's surface, easily pushed aside by the stylus shank; it is not down in the groove where the stylus impacts the vinyl unless some agency, such as a cleaning device, forces it down into the groove.
If you look at your P3 manual when it arrives, you'll find Rega is not so hot on record cleaning in general (see tip number 3 in link below, especially concerning the use of water and solvents), and Linn (the manufacturer of my turntable) says that most record cleaning devices/methods do actual harm by taking dust lying harmlessly on the surface and forcing at least some of it down into the groove.
jrtrent: You are allowed to believe whatever you please. The constant expression of those opinions can become tiresome when they are meant to annoy. You may be sincere and not merely searching for an argument. Though it does appear, after looking at your previous posts, that you have some private agenda.
Which is why I now use a record cleaning device that does not rely on a brush scrubbing the record. I always had a suspicion about my Nitty Gritty that I was pushing stuff down into the grooves in my quest to get cleaner records. http://www.gmanalog.com/gm.aspxJohn K.
Speaking of which,,,,,,, John, how do you like using your new record cleaning device?It looks like you might have to take the whole thing to the sink and do a handful of records at a time. But then it also looks easy enough to use once you have it all set up. Can you talk about it a little bit more?
One particularly interesting article, using microscopy on both record grooves and styli can be found at the site http://micrographia.com/projec/projapps/viny/viny0000.htm
thegage:I was a bit intrigued by the Gem Dandy system when I saw the review on 6moons but the use of tap water for rinsing really goes against popular wisdom. Perhaps where you live tap water doesn't contain as much crap as here in the Jersey suburbs. I have a Britta pitcher in the fridge for drinking water and cooking. The difference in the taste of the water is very dramatic. I would not want that stuff drying up on my records and leaving a film or deposits.
