[vegasdave]

 

[VOLKS]

Hello again,

I had a b-100 at home for a week to see if this was the solution for my "problems" with the b-60, the answer is a big nope.

There was a  very small difference between the two , the b-100 had a tiny,tiny bit more sparkle and slam but the sound was still as flat as a pancake.
so just as i personally thought more power was not the solution, just like the b60 pre with a 2b sst end  before made no big difference. (sorry James)

So it's sad  to say out goes the Bryston b-60 and in comes the Symphonic line rg14 edition.
coupled with the bcd-1 in my setup there is so much more depth, space,magic,emotion, involvement etc. with the symphonic line , it's almost unbelievable.
Even the wife thinks so and she couldn't care less, so the difference is certainly not subtle.

I really tried hard to like the the sound of the b-60 (and b100,b60pre+2bsst) but it just didn't work for me.
Probably my Kef's don't match that well with Bryston amps  ??? 
or maybe i'm not ready for the Bryston sound 
 
http://www.symphonic-line.com/product_integrated_poweramplifier_rg9_rg10_rg14_rg14edition.html

Daffy

Great to hear that you have found the sound you like Daffy.......Marantz builds a solid product like Bryston..............i kinda went thru the same thing recently and i have Kef's as well.......after a year with my 4BSST2 sparkle and bass slam was still there,but yes i agree....a little flat in the end when compared to a few other amps...who knows maybe Bryston-Kef combo are not a match made in heaven......i also still have my BCD-1 in my system currently.

[Laundrew]

".......Marantz builds a solid product like Bryston"

Agreed 

My Marantz SR 19 receiver has served me exceptionally well for the past 10 years.



Be well...

[daffy]

i,dont know what it is with the "marantz sound" some say its coloured and not neutral but in my ears it sounds "fluent,smooth,organic" with a lot of space and naturalness instead of "dry facts"

daffy

[rob80b]

i,dont know what it is with the "marantz sound" some say its coloured and not neutral but in my ears it sounds "fluent,smooth,organic" with a lot of space and naturalness instead of "dry facts"

daffy

Hi Daffy

If you discovered that your recordings overall sound more "fluent, smooth, organic" with the Marantz, which I might add may not be a bad thing, I believe you may have answered your own question,
Very few recordings actually do sound "fluent, smooth, organic", Bryston’s goal is transparency, each recording has it’s own technical signature so the system is chameleon in nature, which I recognize is not for everyone.

Robert

[Anonamemouse]

it has been a long hard and expensive ride but im finally VERY HAPPY with.......

Marantz: pm-11 s2 and sa-11 s2 



I really tried but in the end Bryston didn't work for me.

sorry James

daffy 

For me the Bryston CD player just is not the one. first of all because it only plays 32 tracks on a cd (which I REALLY think is bizarre), second because I just don't like the sound of it.
I am extremely happy with my Marantz KI Pearl in combination with my Aaron pre and Bryston 4B SST2 poweramp. Which may some day be replaced by either a 7B SST2 or a 14B SST2. When I win the lottery...

As such my BDA is still for sale, because my KI does the same thing with the exact same results...

[vegasdave]

Hi Daffy

If you discovered that your recordings overall sound more "fluent, smooth, organic" with the Marantz, which I might add may not be a bad thing, I believe you may have answered your own question,
Very few recordings actually do sound "fluent, smooth, organic", Bryston’s goal is transparency, each recording has it’s own technical signature so the system is chameleon in nature, which I recognize is not for everyone.

Robert

Exactly Robert. These people prefer a colored sound. Cool, knock yourselves out, but it ain't better. And that's a fact.

Bryston epitomizes the goal of high end audio, imo. And that's all there is to it. 

[vegasdave]

Great to hear that you have found the sound you like Daffy.......Marantz builds a solid product like Bryston..............i kinda went thru the same thing recently and i have Kef's as well.......after a year with my 4BSST2 sparkle and bass slam was still there,but yes i agree....a little flat in the end when compared to a few other amps...who knows maybe Bryston-Kef combo are not a match made in heaven......i also still have my BCD-1 in my system currently.

Yeah, we heard you the last time McIntosh guy. Do you have to keep going on and on about it?   

[Anonamemouse]

Yeah, we heard you the last time McIntosh guy. Do you have to keep going on and on about it?   

uhm... do you???

[vegasdave]

Why does he even post here if he's no longer a Bryston owner? And then he's talking crap about Bryston calling it "a little flat in the end when compared to a few other amps."

The mind boggles at this.

I have nothing against the guy personally, but come on, he's kinda asking for it.

[Mag]

Why does he even post here if he's no longer a Bryston owner? And then he's talking crap about Bryston calling it "a little flat in the end when compared to a few other amps."

The mind boggles at this.

I have nothing against the guy personally, but come on, he's kinda asking for it.

This reminds me of the time when I use to work at MacDonald's. I was suppose to meet someone at the restaurant across the street after work. So I walk in there, sit myself down at a table and proceed to eat my free MacDonald's food I got that was either tossed in the trash or given to employees at closing.

The waitress approaches me telling me that I could not eat MacDonald's in their restaurant. At the time I thought why not its a free country! The person I was to meet never did show.

[vegasdave]

Well, I dunno about that, but you don't see me going to another manufacturer's forum here or elsewhere talking about how great Bryston is, and pointing out so-called flaws in the other manufacturer's equipment.

In addition, if let's say I'm no longer an owner of Bryston equipment, why the Hell would I come here? It's pointless. Yes, this is an open forum, but the forum says 'Bryston.' does it not?

There's a very nice McIntosh board over at audio karma that he can now go to.

[rob80b]

Why does he even post here if he's no longer a Bryston owner? And then he's talking crap about Bryston calling it "a little flat in the end when compared to a few other amps."

The mind boggles at this.

I have nothing against the guy personally, but come on, he's kinda asking for it.

Because deep down inside Daffy really wants to return to Bryston but just doesn’t know it yet, and sometimes it’s just hard to leave home and loved ones.

[vegasdave]

haha good one! I would agree with that. Let these guys wallow in their autoformers and integrated circuits...they can have 'em! I'll take my discrete circuitry and toroidal transformers thank you very much.

[Anonamemouse]

Why does he even post here if he's no longer a Bryston owner?

Uhm... Maybe he likes the generally friendly people here?

And then he's talking crap about Bryston calling it "a little flat in the end when compared to a few other amps."

He is not talking crap, he is expressing his (valid) opinion. There ARE better amps than Bryston. Unfortunately, those better amps also are a lot more expensive. There are systems available that even make the 28B sound like a my first sony. But since we are not gazillionairs here nobody owns one.
Next to that, music is personal. I like what I like, you like what you like. This ALSO goes for what sound preference someone has. I like the sound of a Marantz CD player, which incidentally sounds BETTER than the BCD/BDA combo. I dare you to open your mind and actually test this for yourself.

I have nothing against the guy personally, but come on, he's kinda asking for it.

To me it seems you actually DO have something against the guy, JUST because he he decided to move away from Bryston. He is NOT asking for it.

[vegasdave]

Uhm... Maybe he likes the generally friendly people here?

He is not talking crap, he is expressing his (valid) opinion. There ARE better amps than Bryston. Unfortunately, those better amps also are a lot more expensive. There are systems available that even make the 28B sound like a my first sony. But since we are not gazillionairs here nobody owns one.
Next to that, music is personal. I like what I like, you like what you like. This ALSO goes for what sound preference someone has. I like the sound of a Marantz CD player, which incidentally sounds BETTER than the BCD/BDA combo. I dare you to open your mind and actually test this for yourself.

To me it seems you actually DO have something against the guy, JUST because he he decided to move away from Bryston. He is NOT asking for it.

That's fine if he likes the people here, but he's gotta move on eventually. No point in sticking around here.

Yeah, well again, this is the Bryston board, if you think there's better than Bryston, knock yourself silly. No point in coming on here and glorifying other brands. There's Marantz owners boards for you, by the way. And furthermore, there's the general board here where you can talk about any product you want to!

No I don't. He made his bed, that's all. Time to lie in it. 

McIntosh forums thisaway:

http://www.audiokarma.org/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=54

Marantz forums thisaway:

http://www.audiokarma.org/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=134

So, go, what are you waiting for? 

[Anonamemouse]

It's a good thing I am not a moderator on this board. If you would attack someone like you are doing now (not just Daffy or Volks, but several other people in other threads as well) in one of my forums you could now consider yourself be warned for setting a negative mood. You're f*cking lucky James is seriously easy going in my opinion.

I already thought so before, but now I am sure: you're just a sad little boy. You're like 12?

[vegasdave]

It's a good thing I am not a moderator on this board. If you would attack someone like you are doing now (not just Daffy or Volks, but several other people in other threads as well) in one of my forums you could now consider yourself be warned for setting a negative mood. You're f*cking lucky James is seriously easy going in my opinion.

I already thought so before, but now I am sure: you're just a sad little boy. You're like 12?

The fact of the matter is this...you can state your opinions here about how other manufacturer's equipment is better than Bryston. That's fine. However, don't be too surprised if someone else disagrees with your opinions. I do disagree. So, if I have to accept your opinions, you should accept mine. I refuse to conform to your double-standards.