Pacino vs De Niro

launche · « **on:** 17 Sep 2008, 04:48 pm »

Their new movie "Righteous Kill" looks so-so to me.

I ran across an interesting internet "candy" comparision between the two going through some of the popular movies.

http://movies.msn.com/movies/gallery.aspx/?gallery=18710

Who's your favorite?
What's your favorite role of theirs etc...

Me, I'm partial to Pacino, Scarface at the time I saw it was awesome.
I love Pacino in his old age, screaming at everyone. Great actor, great voice and delivery.

martyo · « **Reply #1 on:** 17 Sep 2008, 05:13 pm »

For me it would be De Niro. Heat is one of my favorites and I like both of them in that.

Tyson · « **Reply #2 on:** 17 Sep 2008, 05:16 pm »

Pacino because he did not make the unfortunate career turn to comedy that De Niro did.

mjosef · « **Reply #3 on:** 18 Sep 2008, 04:10 am »

De Niro...I like his moodiness and cool demure. Heat/The Mission/Ronin/Casino...to me he has a broader/deeper range.
A.P. overacts with many of his roles...

denjo · « **Reply #4 on:** 18 Sep 2008, 04:55 am »

Pacino gets my nod! De Niro is just simply himself in most of his roles.

satfrat · « **Reply #5 on:** 18 Sep 2008, 05:00 am »

For those who think Pacino has't been keeping up with De Niro, I suggest you watch "88 Minutes", freshly released on DVD this week. I just finished watching it tonite and Al was awesome,, he brought back memories of yesteryear.

That said, I'm a De Niro fan. The man is as good in comedy as he always is in action/drama.

Cheers,
Robin

Tyson · « **Reply #6 on:** 18 Sep 2008, 04:12 pm »

So which are the 2 best roles for each of these actors? For me I'd say Taxi Driver and Raging Bull for De Niro, and for Pacino it's Godfather II and Donnie Brascoe.

John Casler · « **Reply #7 on:** 18 Sep 2008, 04:35 pm »

Quote from: martyo on 17 Sep 2008, 05:13 pm

For me it would be De Niro. Heat is one of my favorites and I like both of them in that.

I like'em both. I was there for the "pivotal" scene in HEAT in the restaurant, where they tell each other what they might "have" to do "IF" something might happen.

It was filmed in Kate Mantillini's on Wilshire in Bev Hills. One of my friends owns it. They are big movie buffs. Both Deniro and Pacino eat there when they are in town. Seen them there a couple times over the years.

No mistaking that Voice.

Even though the place is always crawling with A-list celebrities, heads swivel like "a wave" as they walk to their tables and Pacino is not a silent type. I could hear him coming before I saw him, last time.

No mistaking that voice.

launche · « **Reply #8 on:** 18 Sep 2008, 05:02 pm »

I watched Carlito's Way and Scent of a Women again last week. Yeah, I was one of those guys going around saying whoo-ah for a few weeks, drove my wife nuts, since I thought I did a decent Pacino inpersonation.
Think I might see "Righteous Kill" today, since I've got a free movie pass

There's a comedian right now (name escaped me,) who does a good Pacino, John Madden, Jim Rome, Charles Barkley etc... and he's good and going from one to the other in an instant.

Airborn · « **Reply #9 on:** 18 Sep 2008, 05:08 pm »

HEAT was on last night and I stayed up until 3 AM watching it for like the 10th time.

That scene in the restaurant is classic, as is the scene when De Niro's crew tricks Pacino and his detectives into the open to be photographed. There is also a strong supporting cast, including Val Kilmer, Tom Sizemore, Ashley Judd, Hank Azaria and Jon Voight is great in his role as the fence/adviser to De Niro. The final big shoot out scene through the streets of Los Angeles always reminds me of the real life bank robbery where 2 guys wearing bullet proof vests and carrying automatic weapons took on dozens of police in L.A. I always wondered if they were copying that scene, since they seem eerily similar.

launche · « **Reply #10 on:** 18 Sep 2008, 11:27 pm »

Saw "Righteous Kill" today, decent movie but very transparent. I saw most of it coming. It had some good element and concepts but they just were not executed well, they was no real suspense or tension in the film for me. Pacino and De Niro cakewalked through this one but the subpar script and directing were a let down. It had the potential to be good but fell a bit flat. The director (Jon Avnet) is the same one from Pacino's "88 Minutes" which I heard was also less than one would hope but Satfrat said he enjoyed it, hopefully it's better than what I saw today although I have a feeling they are about the same. I don't think this genre is Avnets strongsuit, he's done alot of films but this looked like a average effort wasting good talent. Or maybe like so many films, the elements were there but everything just didn't come together as expected...but isn't that the director's job.

Thanks goodness for Carla Gugino, she's prime for a Diane Lane "Unfaithful" role, to say the least.

stlblue · « **Reply #11 on:** 19 Sep 2008, 12:27 am »

Frank Caliendo doing De Niro

Edit: Oops, I meant Pacino

launche · « **Reply #12 on:** 19 Sep 2008, 12:58 am »

Quote from: stlblue on 19 Sep 2008, 12:27 am

Frank Caliendo doing De Niro

Caliendo also does a good Pacino, Bush, etc... He doesn't always get the looks but everything else is pretty good and clean.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kAMIlPudalQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PfDoDWlSp1o&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QpkTfIRGdQc

rydenfan · « **Reply #13 on:** 19 Sep 2008, 03:51 pm »

His Barkley is hilarious...

launche · « **Reply #14 on:** 20 Sep 2008, 03:43 am »

Oh yeah, There were some hi-fi sightings in "Righteous Kill".

Some McIntosh gear, some RPG skyline diffusors and Pacino spinnning some vinyl.

ooheadsoo · « **Reply #15 on:** 20 Sep 2008, 07:27 am »

Quote from: Airborn on 18 Sep 2008, 05:08 pm

HEAT was on last night and I stayed up until 3 AM watching it for like the 10th time. That scene in the restaurant is classic, as is the scene when De Niro's crew tricks Pacino and his detectives into the open to be photographed. There is also a strong supporting cast, including Val Kilmer, Tom Sizemore, Ashley Judd, Hank Azaria and Jon Voight is great in his role as the fence/adviser to De Niro. The final big shoot out scene through the streets of Los Angeles always reminds me of the real life bank robbery where 2 guys wearing bullet proof vests and carrying automatic weapons took on dozens of police in L.A. I always wondered if they were copying that scene, since they seem eerily similar.

It is commonly said here in LA that the bank robbers in Los Angeles real life were inspired by Heat. The police were able to push through legislation and funding for more firepower after that incident.

launche · « **Reply #16 on:** 7 Oct 2008, 01:39 am »

I watched "88 Minutes" this weekend. It's apparent to me that for my tastes the director (Jon Avnet) doesn't do these suspense thriller type movies too well. Both 88 Minutes and Righteous Kill were both average films and really tedious to watch. I was never drawn into the movie, I was hopeful for the first 15 minutes of "88" but is quickly fizzled. I can't say I'm eager to watch anything else from this combination. The director really spoon feeds you dribble and expects you to act suprised or enlightened at the reveal, when you saw him fixing the trick onstage, backstage and in his garage all along.

satfrat · « **Reply #17 on:** 7 Oct 2008, 01:55 am »

Quote from: launche on 7 Oct 2008, 01:39 am

I watched "88 Minutes" this weekend. It's apparent to me that for my tastes the director (Jon Avnet) doesn't do these suspense thriller type movies too well. Both 88 Minutes and Righteous Kill were both average films and really tedious to watch. I was never drawn into the movie, I was hopeful for the first 15 minutes of "88" but is quickly fizzled. I can't say I'm eager to watch anything else from this combination. The director really spoon feeds you dribble and expects you to act suprised or enlightened at the reveal, when you saw him fixing the trick onstage, backstage and in his garage all along.

Sorry I gave you a bum steer on "88 Minutes" launche,

but I watched "Righteous Kill" late last week and had no problem watching it.

In fact I loved Pacino in this movie,,,, guess I can relate to that {I don't give a $hit attitude} that he had thruout this flick.

Pacino was really good IMHO. It's not that I disagree with your opinions, they are infact very valid.

It's just that I'm not that critical and those shortcomings didn't prevent me from enoying both flicks. aa

Cheers,
Robin

launche · « **Reply #18 on:** 7 Oct 2008, 02:20 am »

No worries Robin, I like both Pacino and Deniro and would probably watch anything there are in. I just think the director, and probably writers too, do their actors an injustice. Avnet seems to not be able to create tension or a beleiveable sense of suspense in a film. It all felt very flat to me, thus making the performances less impactful. Pacino and Deniro breezed through or maybe they did a good job but without the other supporting elements the performances seem less moving to me.

Even in "88" the previews gave me a different impression. That the otherwise intelligent and collected Pacino would find himself in the victims chair, in a cat and mouse game that he could not control or manipulate and he usually does, Though some of those elements were there, it was poorly done, Pacino seemed to cool, still able to piece too much together too quickly, I never felt he was really paniced, in danger or becoming unraveled. Again, I have to blame the director, he's clueless, like a rookie coach learning the ropes at the expense of the hall of fame veterans who want to win now, they play along but it's evident that this team is going nowhere fast. It's just a retread of the same 'ol same 'ol and with no new tricks just for kicks. Uninvolving.

jimdgoulding · « **Reply #19 on:** 11 Oct 2008, 04:42 am »

I liked Pacino in City Hall. And, just for a 180, Carlito's Way. Can there any denying that DeNiro rocked in Mean Streets and Midnight Run, just to name a couple?