Liquid Nails

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Liquid Nails
« on: 15 Aug 2007, 03:25 am »
I don't know if this is the best place to ask but wouldn't some of the variations of Liquid Nails have a solvent that could damage crossover parts? I received a pair of speakers to modify and the stuff was all over the crossover components (suffice to say that none of the high $ parts were salvageable).

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Re: Liquid Nails
« Reply #1 on: 15 Aug 2007, 03:28 am »
Yes.

Try Hot melt glue...John

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Re: Liquid Nails
« Reply #2 on: 15 Aug 2007, 03:31 am »
Yes.

Try Hot melt glue...John

I use the hot melt glue myself. My concern is that the other owners of these speakers could experience part failures down the road.

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Re: Liquid Nails
« Reply #3 on: 15 Aug 2007, 05:15 am »
There may be cause for some concern, but the light petroleum distillates and methylene solvents should typically outgas during the initial air cure of the compound.  Fully cured compound should not react further with the component materials.  However, I concur, such a robust adhesive should not have been specified when a less aggressive adhesive material (such as the suggested and very popular hot glue) would have sufficed in this application.

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Re: Liquid Nails
« Reply #4 on: 17 Aug 2007, 06:45 pm »
I agree with Vtech2000.

I admit that I don't know anything about capacitor construction, but it's not obvious to me that exposure to organic solvent vapors for a few hours/days (after a while, the VOCs will migrate back out into the atmosphere) is worse than the temperature pulse (asymmetrically applied, so if there are temperature-based structural relaxations, they won't be the same on all sides of the cap) that you get when you use hot melt.

When I can, I try to use Velcro or nylon tie-downs.  If that doesn't do it, I use Liquid Nails sparingly.

Peter

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Re: Liquid Nails
« Reply #5 on: 17 Aug 2007, 07:53 pm »
I prefer clear silicone (in the large tubes meant for caulking guns).  It holds very well but can be cut or peeled away if needed.  Acetic acid (vinegar) smell dissipates fairly quickly.

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Re: Liquid Nails
« Reply #6 on: 17 Aug 2007, 08:04 pm »
Thanks for the feedback. I think I read once that the outgassing could also damage the driver adhesives.

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Re: Liquid Nails
« Reply #7 on: 18 Aug 2007, 03:53 pm »
Rick,
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I think I read once that the outgassing could also damage the driver adhesives.

IMO, that's a real possiblity, if one uses a lot of adhesive in a small enclosure and then seals the whole thing up before the adhesive sets, the vapors very well could do a job on adhesives, foam surrounds, gaskets... definitely a not good idea. 

My apologies... I made the unwaranted assumption that people would let the vapors dissipate before mounting drivers and closing up the box.  :oops:

Peter