[gooberdude]

Ahhh, so the mount goes:    Shelf > business cards > Moca > maple > tt feet   ???


if so, that's exactly what i do more or less with the LP covers.   by all means don't change a thing...yet.    aa

sorry, i didn't catch that the moca was under the Maple initially.


At some point experiment by replacing the moca with Isoblocks, or even dabbling with new feet for the TT.      Replacing the current feet with the Moca might be a cool experiment too.  i think PA had a cool suggestion of Ebony + Moca.     ebony is the bomb wood of late.

What are you gonna do with the soupcans???

[TheChairGuy]

Ahhh, so the mount goes:    Shelf > business cards > Moca > maple > tt feet   ???

What are you gonna do with the soupcans???

Yup - that's the progression, correct 

Soupcans are kinda' useless now (rig looks nicer now, for sure)

[gooberdude]

that was one of the tallest mounts i've witnessed.    I figured it was necessary as a security precaution, what with all the LP gnome's roaming around trying to steal our precious spinning vinyl.   


Does your tt have a suspension?    a friends DD micro seiki has no suspension, just wondering if Direct Drive tables are rigid typically.    the rigid tt's seem to benefit most from mounts such as these.

[TheChairGuy]

As rigid as nipples on a January, lake-affected, morning (mourning?) in downtown Chicago 

[gooberdude]

Its 90 and sunny here today, don't ruin it!      we only get 9 days a year like this...   

[TheChairGuy]

I tell ya' what - it sounds so good now with the maple in place I almost feel confident to move on and improve other areas of my system.  Seriously, gigunda Maple block and toes is one helluva' upgrade.  Everything I am now playing has an essential 'rightness' to it that just brings a smile to my face.

It's so clean and right now that I think I may need to concentrate on improving/upgrading my speakers now - not that I don't like what I have now - it's just that I can see that it is the area where I may well find the next leap in performance for my finite dollars.

I am seriously and deliriously happy with almost all tunes now on vinyl.  Previously, I couldn't dial in Classical (the most demanding) exactly right.  Between the gigunda maple block / mighty moca blocks / brass toes and a low impedance cartridge...great gobs of music are flowing out of my system now.  Shit, I'm happy - like a kid again

[gooberdude]

Did you end up getting rid of the modd'd Maggies???     

those might be completely difft beasts now.   

just tryin' to rub it in - assuming you sold them.   

[TheChairGuy]

Did you end up getting rid of the modd'd Maggies???     

those might be completely difft beasts now.   

just tryin' to rub it in - assuming you sold them.   

Nope - still got 'em.  Didn't try that hard to sell 'em (sellers remorse).  They need uber wattage/amperage....they don't like my 50 watt tube amps.

Realistically, I should sell them.  They are only 5' from my ear during the day (I listen rarely critically now - 8 or more feet away), so they are largely wasted (Maggies need room to breathe and space to fire in) . They are sitting idle for so long it's really a shame 

[arthurs]

I have a Gingko Cloud 10 and I'm thinking about having my buddy recreate the acrylic base and top in Maple....so 2 thick peices of Maple with the 10 handballs in between....any thoughts on what this might or might not do?

[TheChairGuy]

Beats me - I'd have to think you got about everything covered well enough with the Gingko.

I don't think the maple added warmth or anything as is sometimes quoted...I just think sympathetic vibrations in and out get absorbed by the maple making for cleaner presentation...something I thing the Gingko might already do well for you already.

At this point, with my whole world of (prior) isolation beliefs up in smoke of late, I'm not sure I'm one to guide anyone well

[gooberdude]

i'd call ginkgo and ask them.     It may be that the design rests on using a rigid material like acrylic...

[andyr]

Nope - still got 'em.  Didn't try that hard to sell 'em (sellers remorse).  They need uber wattage/amperage....they don't like my 50 watt tube amps.

Realistically, I should sell them.  They are only 5' from my ear during the day (I listen rarely critically now - 8 or more feet away), so they are largely wasted (Maggies need room to breathe and space to fire in) . They are sitting idle for so long it's really a shame 

So what Maggies do ya have, The ChairGuy?    I have fully active IIIas. 

Haven't seen your moniker on MUG?

Regards,

Andy

[TheChairGuy]

Hey Andy,

I have MMG's with full top-and-bottom Mye stands and outboard crossovers with all the best stuff from Sonic Craft (Alpha-Core inductor, Neotech PC-OCC wiring, etc)

http://www.audiocircle.com/index.php?topic=40100.0

John

[BobRex]

i'd call ginkgo and ask them.     It may be that the design rests on using a rigid material like acrylic...

Umm, acrylic isn't that rigid.  In fact, at the thickness Ginko uses it's downright flexible.  That's why they bond a skirt to the top plate - it stiffens things up. 

As far as replacing the acrylic with maple (or any other substance for that matter), just go get a cutting board and place it on the top plate.  That should get you 90% there.  If there is an improvement, then bond the cutting board to the acrylic.  I wouldn't worry about the bottom plate, it just holds the balls in place.  And yes, the maple will be stiffer than the acrylic.

Now what I don't know is whether or not the acrylic flexture is part of the isolation equation.  I don't think so (isn't the 11 nothing but a 10 with a thicker top plate?), but I'm not certain.

[Jampot]

Dawn finally cottoned on -

http://cls.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/cls.pl?accsrack&1193174293

I already Used TCG's link to buy on eBay, But it wasn't me who told her - Honest Injun aa

Jim

[TheChairGuy]

Yeah, Jim....I saw it, too, today.  She's a bright lady - finding new avenues for cutting blocks    I love those crafty marketers 

I emailed here to ask her a couple questions and told her she can use this post if she needs some audiophile credentials to draw upon in the beginning.

No folks - I don't know her and I paid full retail (well, bargained her down to $65 + shipping) a couple months back.

[TheChairGuy]

Just an update to this.....I was in Ikea today and saw two excellent cutting boards for cheap:

http://www.ikea.com/us/en/catalog/products/00043245
http://www.ikea.com/us/en/catalog/products/40082918

The smaller one has a plastic layer between two think boards of birch....the larger and longer one is all birch, about 1.25 to 1.5" thick.  One seemed to resonate, two did too (by the very analytical nail plinking method  ), but three were as dead as can be.  Putting four together didn't seem to deaden it any more...but who knows, maybe 

So, for $60 (3 smaller ones) or $100 (4 of the larger ones) you probably get fantastic isolation on par or better than I achieved with my 3.5" maple butcher block for about the same cost.  Birch is used by several Finnish loudspeakers makers and has good sonic properties for damping...at least if it's layered or thick enough.

3 to 4 of each of these would seem to be plenty think enough. A good deal in the offing at Ikea either way for vinyl-heads to try 

[dmckean]

That's not a layer of plastic between two birch boards. It's just a rubber band that goes around it.

[TheChairGuy]

That's not a layer of plastic between two birch boards. It's just a rubber band that goes around it.

Thanks for pointing that out - it makes a whole lot more sense now that it's there...it didn't indicate anything on the packaging or the header card describing the item in the store...I just ass-u-&-me'd  it was a layer of plastic between the two pieces of birch. 

Anyway, a great deal to be likely had at IKEA on these birch cutting boards